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Post by jaba on Mar 30, 2023 12:53:05 GMT -6
I'm looking at a pair of EQs to incorporate into mixing at home and remote tracking. Considering the 500 route. I have good mic pres but not a lot of hardware comps and no EQs. When not tracking in the studio, I track/mix with an RME UFX (first edition) and use an RMS 755 buss compressor for the mixbuss, other than that, ITB.
I like mixing into things with character and am looking for pieces I can use on the 2-buss when mixing as well as individually when tracking - dual mono or a pair of EQs that can add some depth and tone. Currently considering a TK-liser, Iron Age LH95s, CAPI (if I ever see them available...), Harrison 32 (not stepped though), or DIYRE EQP5.
I know there's a lot written already about these but looking for some current real-world opinions/suggestions.
Thanks
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Post by seawell on Mar 30, 2023 12:56:53 GMT -6
I really like the LH95 pair on mix buss 👍🏻. You can push them a bit to get some really cool tone/saturation. Really sweet high end and huge lows as well when needed.
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Post by Darren Boling on Mar 30, 2023 14:19:25 GMT -6
I second the LH95's, I really liked that EQ. I would suggest API 550A's as I love my pair for tracking/mixing but maybe a bit much for buss so I'll suggest an alternative that's helpful for what you describe. The Louder Than Liftoff Pentode 2 has an awesome Baxandall EQ that'll easily do the smiley face thing I like on mixbus, partner it with the Superfilter Module in the Mr Focus host then you also have HPF/LPF and a tilt filter along with all the harmonic goodness. In the past I had an Xfilter and Little Devil, those were also cool.
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Post by robo on Mar 30, 2023 22:52:31 GMT -6
I would skip the TKilizer if you are looking for color. It’s a great box but quite transparent. I had a pair of the Harrison’s for a while and couldn’t get excited about them, I didn’t care for the box tone.
The Iron Age stuff is great. RND 551’s could work nicely. JLM PEQ’s are great if you want a Pultec-type thing. I used to have a pair of Five Fish PEQ’s that I shouldn’t have sold…Those new Cranborne EQ’s/exciter things seem pretty interesting too. I’m sure there are 15 other good options out there. Good luck with your eq quest!
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Post by jacobamerritt on Mar 30, 2023 23:21:12 GMT -6
The Kush Electras are freakin awesome and versatile. LH95 def has vibe and is sweet but less flexible
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Post by anders on Mar 30, 2023 23:27:12 GMT -6
AML ezP1A is a pretty solid Pultec type equaliser. I have a pair, and can't praise them enough. ÂŁ345 for the kit version, or an additional ÂŁ100 ready built and tested.
Each unit is 2 spaces wide to accomodate all the rotary switches, a chunky inductor and 3 transformers. The double width leads to a (as 500 units go) spacious panel layout where it is easy to visually match channel settings.
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Post by copperx on Mar 31, 2023 0:14:39 GMT -6
AML ezP1A is a pretty solid Pultec type equaliser. I have a pair, and can't praise them enough. ÂŁ345 for the kit version, or an additional ÂŁ100 ready built and tested. Each unit is 2 spaces wide to accomodate all the rotary switches, a chunky inductor and 3 transformers. The double width leads to a (as 500 units go) spacious panel layout where it is easy to visually match channel settings. I've never been able to tell ... Does the AML Pultec have a 2520 type opamp, like the Pultec 500 or like the JLM EQP500?
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Post by thehightenor on Mar 31, 2023 4:19:15 GMT -6
I'm looking at a pair of EQs to incorporate into mixing at home and remote tracking. Considering the 500 route. I have good mic pres but not a lot of hardware comps and no EQs. When not tracking in the studio, I track/mix with an RME UFX (first edition) and use an RMS 755 buss compressor for the mixbuss, other than that, ITB. I like mixing into things with character and am looking for pieces I can use on the 2-buss when mixing as well as individually when tracking - dual mono or a pair of EQs that can add some depth and tone. Currently considering a TK-liser, Iron Age LH95s, CAPI (if I ever see them available...), Harrison 32 (not stepped though), or DIYRE EQP5. I know there's a lot written already about these but looking for some current real-world opinions/suggestions. Thanks That Wes Audio Prometheus looks to be very nice. Proper Pultec passive inductor design and instant digital plugin recall, what’s not to love. I also use the RMS 755 on my mix bus. I love that compressor (it’s definitely my not so secret weapon) I use mine before a Thermionic Phoenix Mastering Plus and Thermionic Swift EQ - two expensive tube pieces that the RMS 755 matches in quality and bandwidth without breaking into sweat - the Rolls RMS 755 is imho an absolutely superb bit of kit. For anyone wanting a similar set up on a smaller physical scale and smaller budget then personally I’d look at the Wes Audio Titan rack and use his Dione (VCA) Rhea (vari mu) Prometheus (Pultec) fabulous sound quality and instant plugin recall. The guy behind Wes Audio is Poland’s equivalent to the late great Dave Hill. Another genius designer imho.
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Post by jaba on Mar 31, 2023 7:54:58 GMT -6
I second the LH95's, I really liked that EQ. I would suggest API 550A's as I love my pair for tracking/mixing but maybe a bit much for buss so I'll suggest an alternative that's helpful for what you describe. The Louder Than Liftoff Pentode 2 has an awesome Baxandall EQ that'll easily do the smiley face thing I like on mixbus, partner it with the Superfilter Module in the Mr Focus host then you also have HPF/LPF and a tilt filter along with all the harmonic goodness. In the past I had an Xfilter and Little Devil, those were also cool. Thanks for the input. I know API EQs very well and am a big fan though don't use them on mixbuss very much. I'm quite curious about the LH95s and see them used on the full mix fairly often. Do you find the 3dB increments limiting at all? I'm not familiar with the LTL modules. Looks like it could be fairly flexible but I don't see how the bass + treble shelves work, I just see the tilt EQ.
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Post by jaba on Mar 31, 2023 7:58:06 GMT -6
I would skip the TKilizer if you are looking for color. It’s a great box but quite transparent. I had a pair of the Harrison’s for a while and couldn’t get excited about them, I didn’t care for the box tone. The Iron Age stuff is great. RND 551’s could work nicely. JLM PEQ’s are great if you want a Pultec-type thing. I used to have a pair of Five Fish PEQ’s that I shouldn’t have sold…Those new Cranborne EQ’s/exciter things seem pretty interesting too. I’m sure there are 15 other good options out there. Good luck with your eq quest! Yeah, I forgot about the 551s. How do they compare to the LH95s?
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Post by jaba on Mar 31, 2023 8:02:50 GMT -6
AML ezP1A is a pretty solid Pultec type equaliser. I have a pair, and can't praise them enough. ÂŁ345 for the kit version, or an additional ÂŁ100 ready built and tested. Each unit is 2 spaces wide to accomodate all the rotary switches, a chunky inductor and 3 transformers. The double width leads to a (as 500 units go) spacious panel layout where it is easy to visually match channel settings. I love a nice Pultec but have never had a pair to use on busses. I'm sure it's great (they were made for it....). I do find that I most often reach for an API over a Pultec when tracking so feel that style might get more use in that sense. Two double-wides eat up a lot of space, though I'd be ok with it if they were the best all-around option.
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Post by ab101 on Mar 31, 2023 8:32:38 GMT -6
Really happy with Tree Audio eqs. (Hard to find now, but the earlier versions, the "Brats" I believe are the same - with the Inward Connections branding.) Also, for very clean with a lot of uses - the Zahl Eq1 is fantastic. (I only have the Iron Age V2 and love it - but it is a rack unit.)
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Post by robo on Mar 31, 2023 9:36:10 GMT -6
I would skip the TKilizer if you are looking for color. It’s a great box but quite transparent. I had a pair of the Harrison’s for a while and couldn’t get excited about them, I didn’t care for the box tone. The Iron Age stuff is great. RND 551’s could work nicely. JLM PEQ’s are great if you want a Pultec-type thing. I used to have a pair of Five Fish PEQ’s that I shouldn’t have sold…Those new Cranborne EQ’s/exciter things seem pretty interesting too. I’m sure there are 15 other good options out there. Good luck with your eq quest! Yeah, I forgot about the 551s. How do they compare to the LH95s? I only know the LH95’s from Seawell’s video, but the 551’s are sort of like a smoother, more hifi 1073-type eq. Subtle but pleasant box tone that would be nice over a mix. Worth looking into.
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Post by anders on Mar 31, 2023 10:33:54 GMT -6
Does the AML Pultec have a 2520 type opamp, like the Pultec 500 or like the JLM EQP500? It doesn't use a DOA, but it is a discrete transistor design. I am not super good at reading schematics, but it looks more of the Neve school to my untrained eyes. There is a schematic on one of the last pages of the build guide.
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Post by audiomaintenance on Mar 31, 2023 23:19:12 GMT -6
The gain make-up is done using the output stage circuit of the ez1073.... so it is like a cross between a Pultec and a Neve
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Post by copperx on Mar 31, 2023 23:52:18 GMT -6
The gain make-up is done using the output stage circuit of the ez1073.... so it is like a cross between a Pultec and a Neve Hi Colin, Quick question, is it possible to easily shift the frequencies of the low end boost slightly (e.g.) 30 Hz and 60 Hz to 40 and 70 Hz? (more in line with the solid state Pultecs)
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Post by audiomaintenance on Apr 1, 2023 0:38:58 GMT -6
Just change some capacitor values
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Post by RealNoob on Apr 1, 2023 9:16:07 GMT -6
LH95s again. They open up the mix nicely, top always sounds natural, bottom is awesome with plenty to spare
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Post by jaba on Apr 1, 2023 9:40:01 GMT -6
Lots of love for the LH95s. How do they compare to API 550A's?
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Post by smashlord on Apr 1, 2023 22:13:33 GMT -6
Maag EQ4s are a standard for mix buss and are stepped. As a tracking EQ, its good but a little less utilitarian than other EQs due to the fixed frequencies. Besides vocals, where they are most commonly loved, I find it to be good on kick, bass, and acoustic guitar.
If you like 550As, I actually think they sound fantastic across a mix. I have a 5500 as well, but while it may be more useful as a mix buss EQ, the box tone isn't quite as cool as the 550As. I often just run signal through them, since its very rare I'd be boosting 2dB on the buss, but I suppose if you mix into a low and top boost, they could be fine.
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Post by IngEng on Apr 2, 2023 6:54:03 GMT -6
I'm looking at a pair of EQs to incorporate into mixing at home and remote tracking. Considering the 500 route. I have good mic pres but not a lot of hardware comps and no EQs. When not tracking in the studio, I track/mix with an RME UFX (first edition) and use an RMS 755 buss compressor for the mixbuss, other than that, ITB. I like mixing into things with character and am looking for pieces I can use on the 2-buss when mixing as well as individually when tracking - dual mono or a pair of EQs that can add some depth and tone. Currently considering a TK-liser, Iron Age LH95s, CAPI (if I ever see them available...), Harrison 32 (not stepped though), or DIYRE EQP5. I know there's a lot written already about these but looking for some current real-world opinions/suggestions. Thanks I'd love for you to check out the Ingram Engineering EQ52 Equalizer. Details, reviews and sound clips are at ingramengineering.net/products/eq52.html I've got a lot of Instagram and Facebook posts regarding example settings for various situations, search IG ingram_engineering and FB Ingram Engineering Professional Audio Thanks
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Post by Darren Boling on Apr 3, 2023 8:55:14 GMT -6
Thanks for the input. I know API EQs very well and am a big fan though don't use them on mixbuss very much. I'm quite curious about the LH95s and see them used on the full mix fairly often. Do you find the 3dB increments limiting at all? I'm not familiar with the LTL modules. Looks like it could be fairly flexible but I don't see how the bass + treble shelves work, I just see the tilt EQ. I'm the same with my API's, but that's mostly as they're already being used elsewhere by the time I get to the bus. I only demoed the LH95 and like the 550's I was using it elsewhere (amazing on bass), I seconded it as I thought it was a monster sound in 500 series. The LTL Pentode 2 colour modules aren't as flexible as having dedicated EQ's, they have high and low shelves set with jumpers and tiny pots. When I realized my Silver Bullet's eq section was always parked with the same settings I set the Pentode 2 to the same curve, the Superfilter handles the HPF. For my workflow it's great, but I'm also not doing heavy EQ lifting at the mixbus level, just some sauce.
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Post by guitfiddler on Apr 4, 2023 3:52:15 GMT -6
What about CAPI LC40 & LC25 & BT50? Anyone? I’m still in the hunt for 4 nice EQ’s
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Post by matt@IAA on Apr 4, 2023 7:21:42 GMT -6
What about CAPI LC40 & LC25 & BT50? Anyone? I’m still in the hunt for 4 nice EQ’s I'll make a deal on four channels or two V2s
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Post by drbill on Apr 4, 2023 10:06:35 GMT -6
What about CAPI LC40 & LC25 & BT50? Anyone? I’m still in the hunt for 4 nice EQ’s I like the LC40's and LC25's more than the BT50's. I might be the only one though....
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