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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 21, 2014 14:58:03 GMT -6
What's the word? Never used one.
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Post by wiz on Jun 21, 2014 15:57:12 GMT -6
feh
8)
I had one
I don't anymore
its okay.... sort of
nice lights and lots of buttons to push.
feh
8)
cheers
Wiz
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Post by ragan on Jun 21, 2014 16:54:27 GMT -6
feh 8) I had one I don't anymore its okay.... sort of nice lights and lots of buttons to push. feh 8) cheers Wiz You must be thinking of another iteration. The 414b-ULS doesn't have lights or buttons. It's got the little sharp selector switch with the deafening pop. The XLII and XLS have the push button light/switch thing. But to JK, I really like the 414b-ULS. They're my favorite of the attainable 414s. The EBs are also really nice. The b-ULS's are the mellowest of the 414s. I've got a pair that see a lot of use on OH, piano, guitar cab (mixed with a 57 or 441). They're also awesome on a bass cab about 3 feet off the grill in omni. Just real workhorses. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 21, 2014 17:25:03 GMT -6
there is a thread with clips if you google demonstrating all the iterations of the 414, I am with ragan and i think pro tools expert did a mike comparison about a month ago and that russ had clips with a 414 just don't remember which one ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 21, 2014 17:31:23 GMT -6
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Post by mulmany on Jun 21, 2014 18:24:55 GMT -6
Alternative is the AT4050. Very similar to the 414's. I have a pair for OH and general duties, use to use it for vocals and acoustic guitars.
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Post by svart on Jun 21, 2014 19:28:35 GMT -6
I tried some out while looking for a pair of good LDC. Perfectly usable, kinda all-around sound. They are a little more dull compared to the other versions. I then compared some Gefell M930 and immediately bought the Gefells.
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Post by wiz on Jun 21, 2014 20:05:00 GMT -6
Whoops. Sorry, I had the xls
Ignore me...move along nothing to see here... 8)
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 21, 2014 20:32:42 GMT -6
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Post by ragan on Jun 21, 2014 20:43:52 GMT -6
414s in general kind of have that "jack of all trades, master of none" thing going. Occasionally they're perfect for something but more often than not they're just really solid for almost anything.
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Post by henge on Jun 22, 2014 12:09:41 GMT -6
Had a B-ULS for years. Sounded like shit on my voice.Accented all that was wrong. Nice on Acoustic.
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Post by Ward on Jun 22, 2014 18:50:47 GMT -6
Well... I have a few 414s and can give you some background on them. I've had others, but these are presently in the locker and get regular usage. C12a - big beautiful warm nuvister tube mic that followed the original C12. Truly breathtaking with better low end that a C12 but not quite as much air. C414eb - less in the low end and magical warmth that the C12a but still has that brass capsule sparkle to it. C414uls - Suddenly, all the engineers at AKG went deaf and could no longer tell what a C414 was supposed to sound like. between 2 and 12 k there is a noticeable dip in response that takes a broadband eq to correct. However, it does have good air. C414XLS - New people must have been hired who had some idea of what a C414 was supposed to sound like. Not quite as bright as an EB but not too bad either. If you really want the CK12 sound in a modern AKG/Harman offering, I recommend the AKG C414 XLII ...or... and you will think me mad for saying this, the lowly live condensor AKG C535. But, if you want better than that, buy a C414EB P48 or a C414ULS and order one of Tim Campbell's CK12 capsules here[/u][/color][/url] and install it. As for the b-uls? Really not that much different to the uls. |
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Post by ben on Aug 6, 2014 10:26:32 GMT -6
414s in general kind of have that "jack of all trades, master of none" thing going. Occasionally they're perfect for something but more often than not they're just really solid for almost anything. I agree, I've had a pair for well over a decade, and the are very good quality mics. Certainly not a one-trick-pony, but not great on everything. Versatile, however, with several pickup patterns, and takes EQ very well. I've been wanting to replace the capsules with the CT12's, as I think that would make them even better. Maybe timcampbell has a pair he'd like to sell to me? |
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Post by Ward on Aug 6, 2014 13:35:28 GMT -6
Get in the queue, Ben!! We're all waiting out turn for our orders to be filled!!
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Post by ericn on Aug 6, 2014 15:20:23 GMT -6
All the C414s I have used have pretty much been general purpose mics, good but very little " WOW", don't get me wrong they are great mics, but all but one of them ever made my jaw drop. The one 414 that ever stood out to me was my one mic that didn't survive Hurricane Ike. It was a pawnshop score, a Brass capsuled EB with the tinkering of Jim Williams! The best discription I can give is that mic was like a DPA SDC, but with weight . It did not have the realism or 3d effect of say a M49, it was about clarity but not etchy.
AKG seams to have evolved what was a great studio standard into the expensive cool looking Home studio mic ,
They seam to care more about the visuals and the cost of building it!
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Post by Ward on Aug 6, 2014 15:43:19 GMT -6
They seam to care more about the visuals and the cost of building it! Sweet Lord Above, NO!! They're (gasp) capitalists!! |
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Post by ben on Aug 7, 2014 12:57:49 GMT -6
Get in the queue, Ben!! We're all waiting out turn for our orders to be filled!! Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to cut the line! lol. I've sent emails requesting to be put on the list, but I never heard back. I know he's a busy guy, so I didn't want to be rude and push the issue. Maybe someday I will get the opportunity. |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 7, 2014 13:12:55 GMT -6
The XLS is better than many especially without a windscreen but I don't care for the XLII.
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Post by Ward on Aug 7, 2014 15:34:10 GMT -6
The XLS is better than many especially without a windscreen but I don't care for the XLII. Indeed it is. It's a fine utility microphone. It doesn't have the magic of a C414EB but it is definitely the closest since in overall sound and vibe. But like I previously stated, if Harman/AKG were smart, they would hire Tim Campbell and put him in charge of CK12 capsule manufacturing and regain their former pole position! |
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Post by sopwith on Aug 7, 2014 15:51:54 GMT -6
I liked the b-ULS as overheads, but didn't click with them on anything else really. As ericn said, no magic. I assume the EB's are a different situation.
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Post by ericn on Aug 7, 2014 17:55:28 GMT -6
The XLS is better than many especially without a windscreen but I don't care for the XLII. Indeed it is. It's a fine utility microphone. It doesn't have the magic of a C414EB but it is definitely the closest since in overall sound and vibe. But like I previously stated, if Harman/AKG were smart, they would hire Tim Campbell and put him in charge of CK12 capsule manufacturing and regain their former pole position! If they did it would Be a $2000 mic! , I remember when Harmon bought AKG and they dropped the UlLS From $965 to $559 street! Man I Sold a truck Load those first couple of months , Now 414s are a $600 mic in my mind ! |
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Post by Ward on Aug 7, 2014 20:00:51 GMT -6
Indeed it is. It's a fine utility microphone. It doesn't have the magic of a C414EB but it is definitely the closest since in overall sound and vibe. But like I previously stated, if Harman/AKG were smart, they would hire Tim Campbell and put him in charge of CK12 capsule manufacturing and regain their former pole position! If they did it would Be a $2000 mic! , I remember when Harmon bought AKG and they dropped the UlLS From $965 to $559 street! Man I Sold a truck Load those first couple of months , Now 414s are a $600 mic in my mind ! If it were a proper 414, it SHOULD be $2k |
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 7, 2014 22:32:33 GMT -6
Get in the queue, Ben!! We're all waiting out turn for our orders to be filled!! Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to cut the line! lol. I've sent emails requesting to be put on the list, but I never heard back. I know he's a busy guy, so I didn't want to be rude and push the issue. Maybe someday I will get the opportunity. hit him up again Ben, he seems to have some space these days... at least thats what i heard? |
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 7, 2014 22:35:30 GMT -6
how come no one talks about the 414 TLll? i had one of those back in the day, i was told it had the C12 capsule, but i never had the gumption to look back then(93). I used to use it on acoustic gtars and snare all the time, it sounded great.
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Post by barforama on Aug 8, 2014 5:12:40 GMT -6
But, if you want better than that, buy a C414EB P48 or a C414ULS and order one of Tim Campbell's CK12 capsules here[/u][/color][/url] and install it. As for the b-uls? Really not that much different to the uls. [/quote] I have done that exactly and I love my newborn C414EB/P48  |
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