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Post by Quint on Feb 23, 2023 21:50:16 GMT -6
Ok. I'll check that out. I do like Stapleton, though I agree that maybe that's not technically country, but so what. Ever get into Charley Crockett? I really like that guy. Colter Wall too. Yeah Colter is cool…Actually, I’d say 95% of what Chris does is country, that particular song just blows me away but it’s more R&B Yeah, I just meant that I was already aware of him and liked him. Also, I guess what I meant was that I don't consider him part of "popular" country music. I mean, yeah, he's popular, but he's got an outsider thing to him. It always feels like the Nashville establishment is in a begrudgingly accepting stance with any of these kind of guys. So it's not that I don't listen to country music anymore or that I'm not aware of newer country. I just meant that, once upon a time, I could listen to what passed for country music on the radio, or what otherwise passed for "mainstream" or "popular" and still hear things I liked. Those days have long since passed, at least as far as I'm aware, unless there something I don't know about? |
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Post by Quint on Feb 23, 2023 21:51:25 GMT -6
Got examples? Genuinely curious. Want to hear one of my latest aimed at getting a country radio cut? Bring it. Though I'll just preface this by saying that I may or may not be the target audience for stuff aimed at getting on current country radio. But I'll certainly give it a listen. Like I said, I used to enjoy country on the radio, up through the early 90s, and then it just fell off a cliff for me. |
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Post by chessparov on Feb 23, 2023 21:51:58 GMT -6
I'm hoping for the Neo-Allman/CCR/Little Feat Renaissance.  Chris |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 23, 2023 21:52:10 GMT -6
Yeah Colter is cool…Actually, I’d say 95% of what Chris does is country, that particular song just blows me away but it’s more R&B Yeah, I just meant that I was already aware of him and liked him. Also, I guess what I meant was that I don't consider him part of "popular" country music. I mean, yeah, he's popular, but he's got an outsider thing to him. It always feels like the Nashville establishment is in a begrudgingly accepting stance with any of these kind of guys. So it's not that I don't listen to country music anymore or that I'm not aware of newer country. I just meant that, once upon a time, I could listen to what passed for country music on the radio, or what otherwise passed for "mainstream" or "popular" and still hear things I liked. Those days have long since passed, at least as far as I'm aware, unless there something I don't know about? Oh I understand - I felt the same way…but I’m just saying I feel like it’s legitimately getting better for the last year or two. As far as popular music being bad - you can say that about every genre. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 23, 2023 21:55:57 GMT -6
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Post by Quint on Feb 23, 2023 21:58:57 GMT -6
Yeah, I just meant that I was already aware of him and liked him. Also, I guess what I meant was that I don't consider him part of "popular" country music. I mean, yeah, he's popular, but he's got an outsider thing to him. It always feels like the Nashville establishment is in a begrudgingly accepting stance with any of these kind of guys. So it's not that I don't listen to country music anymore or that I'm not aware of newer country. I just meant that, once upon a time, I could listen to what passed for country music on the radio, or what otherwise passed for "mainstream" or "popular" and still hear things I liked. Those days have long since passed, at least as far as I'm aware, unless there something I don't know about? Oh I understand - I felt the same way…but I’m just saying I feel like it’s legitimately getting better for the last year or two. As far as popular music being bad - you can say that about every genre. Ha. I DO say that about every genre. But then I'm not the target audience for anything "popular". I mean, my favorite music these days, and for quite a few years, is post punk and other subversive or un-pretty sounds, so I'm kind of preternaturally disposed to being anti-"popular" in my music choices. |
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Post by ragan on Feb 23, 2023 22:05:51 GMT -6
Worth re-emphasizing that this is more of a can’t-look-away-from-someone-embarrassing-themselves thing than anything else, I think. Even for the most shallow, bro-country aesthetic, this is not a top tier artist, performance, production, video, etc. It’s getting a bunch of plays because it’s so cringe-y and people (like us) are sending it to each other going “holy shit, this is awful…you gotta see this”. Is it? I honestly have no idea. That's how dumb that popular modern country music has gotten. I mean, it's not Lisa Gail Allred, "Three Second Rule" kinda bad, so one could be forgiven for thinking this was getting real traction, given the state of popular modern country music. I mean, I sure can’t say definitively. But that’s my sense of it at the moment. |
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Post by Quint on Feb 23, 2023 22:08:28 GMT -6
I know you're saying that you're aiming that at "modern" country radio or whatever, but I actually think that kind of sounds a little like 90s throwback to me, and I mean that in a good way, especially if certain types of production values were applied, which I realize would be up to whomever might decide to record this, and, as I'm saying this, I do understand that applying older production values might not be what you'd want. My bias is showing, as I like the older production values, especially in country. Anyway, yeah, I like it. And great voice, as always. |
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Post by Quint on Feb 23, 2023 22:09:37 GMT -6
Is it? I honestly have no idea. That's how dumb that popular modern country music has gotten. I mean, it's not Lisa Gail Allred, "Three Second Rule" kinda bad, so one could be forgiven for thinking this was getting real traction, given the state of popular modern country music. I mean, I sure can’t say definitively. But that’s my sense of it at the moment. I haven't paid attention in a long time. John, is obviously in the know, and seems to be saying otherwise. So what do I know... If things have moved on from bro country, I'm glad to hear it. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 23, 2023 22:12:54 GMT -6
That’s my co-writer singing. But that’s a pretty current pitch.
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Post by Quint on Feb 23, 2023 22:19:16 GMT -6
That’s my co-writer singing. But that’s a pretty current pitch. Ah, that explains it. I heard it and thought to myself that it maybe didn't quite sound like you singing, but wasn't so far off that I just chalked it up to you maybe eqing the vocal or something. |
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Post by gwlee7 on Feb 24, 2023 6:20:43 GMT -6
I'm hoping for the Neo-Allman/CCR/Little Feat Renaissance. Chris Then listen to Son Volt, Wilco, Big House, some Blackberry Smoke, and especially Jason Isbell. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 24, 2023 7:39:28 GMT -6
And it’s not viral because some people like it. It’s literally the laughingstock of the world at the moment. $140k doesn’t lay very long. I didn’t listen to the song with 40M plays, but she has that one with 40M and another with 10M already. I imagine both of those are just as bad and you don’t get THAT many plays from people laughing at you. I think kid rock is a great comparison. I don’t think anyone thought he had good songs, but he probably mad a TON of cash. |
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Post by ragan on Feb 24, 2023 9:42:30 GMT -6
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Post by chessparov on Feb 24, 2023 10:49:03 GMT -6
I'm hoping for the Neo-Allman/CCR/Little Feat Renaissance. Chris Then listen to Son Volt, Wilco, Big House, some Blackberry Smoke, and especially Jason Isbell. I like Marcus King quite a bit too. Chris |
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Post by robo on Feb 24, 2023 10:52:49 GMT -6
The worst part about that song/video isn’t the pandering, lowest-common-denominator lyrics or cheesy production, because that happens in most bad country tracks, but appropriating hip hop while proudly celebrating white southern culture is really the chef’s kiss of bad taste.
I agree with folks here saying popular country has taken some promising steps away from this low point in the last few years.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 24, 2023 12:18:27 GMT -6
Yeah, put it up John, I'd like to hear it.
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Post by notneeson on Feb 24, 2023 12:44:45 GMT -6
Yeah, put it up John, I'd like to hear it. I got you: song.space/3sn5rv (John had already posted it.) |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 24, 2023 13:42:41 GMT -6
Thanks notneeson.
That song is real good John. No doubt it would be well received if someone cut it.
Was that the Soyuz on the vocal? I couldn't quite tell, I was listening on my computer speakers.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 24, 2023 15:09:15 GMT -6
Thanks notneeson. That song is real good John. No doubt it would be well received if someone cut it. Was that the Soyuz on the vocal? I couldn't quite tell, I was listening on my computer speakers. Yeah. Soyuz - H2 0011 - AS 76F |
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Post by ml on Feb 24, 2023 15:25:55 GMT -6
Congrats John, sounds great! |
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Post by teejay on Feb 24, 2023 15:40:32 GMT -6
Congrats John, sounds great! THIS^^^^^^ |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 24, 2023 16:45:20 GMT -6
Congrats John, sounds great! Thanks, guys…not sure anyone else will ever hear it, but it might raise my forum cred here lol. |
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Post by ml on Feb 26, 2023 17:22:17 GMT -6
Congrats John, sounds great! Thanks, guys…not sure anyone else will ever hear it, but it might raise my forum cred here lol. I love the way the vocal sounds in this. Obviously a great singer, but the vocals sound clear and modern. Wish I could get a vocal sound like that in my boxy room. |
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Post by chessparov on Feb 26, 2023 19:11:00 GMT -6
Congrats John, sounds great! Thanks, guys…not sure anyone else will ever hear it, but it might raise my forum cred here lol. You remind me of the great Soul Singer Dan Penn... Who preferred to be out of the Limelight, and concentrate on Songwriting and Production too. It's been said that Dan Penn and Delaney Bramlett, were the primary inspirations for Eric Clapton's improved vocal interpretations.* You have that inspirational quality also! Chris *I believe Steve Winwood's encouragement, around the Blind Faith period, helped Eric a lot too. |
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