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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 21, 2023 14:42:44 GMT -6
I’ve got a 2014 Martin D-28 Authentic that is an absolute beast of a guitar. Way more guitar than I need honestly…I’ve gone back and forth about selling it because basically - it doesn’t make me money. It’s $5k that could be going towards other gear that could make me money. I’ve got a buyer that wants it.
The overwhelming majority of my income is through production and mixing, so songwriting has taken a backseat…and I don’t need a $5k guitar to write a song anyway. There’s no doubt it records beautifully, but any recording I do at home is basically just for my pleasure or demos. Recently I took it in for some warranty binding repair that took a month (ridiculous) and honestly, I realized I wouldn’t have even picked it up during that time. They still make them new (for a lot more) so if I came to a place where I wanted another one, they’re available. And there are usually used ones available.
The pragmatic side of me says to sell it and use that money to buy something that could make my mixing better - whether that’s monitors or hardware, etc. The collector side of me says it’s an heirloom and will be worth more in 20 years (will it really though? I paid more for it new) and there’s always the fear of regretting it.
Anyway - I’ve been trying to be more efficient with my gear purchases. This guitar is awesome…but it’s like having a Ferrari and keeping it in the garage 11 months out of the year.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 21, 2023 14:43:56 GMT -6
It could just about pay for a H251…
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 21, 2023 15:08:42 GMT -6
Sell it.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Feb 21, 2023 15:09:01 GMT -6
If you’re not emotionally attached I’d say sell it if you’re not using it. But if you love the guitar, productivity be damned… keep it.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Feb 21, 2023 15:10:59 GMT -6
Sell it. Use part of the money to get a bucket list bottle of whiskey... George T Stagg maybe?
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Post by tkaitkai on Feb 21, 2023 15:14:43 GMT -6
If it doesn't serve you, sell it. Especially if an H251 or other gear feels more inspiring.
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Post by ragan on Feb 21, 2023 15:15:44 GMT -6
I’m with the gang. If you’re not emotionally attached to it, sell it.
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Post by dok on Feb 21, 2023 15:16:13 GMT -6
Funny to see this now. I picked up a D-18 over the weekend that is the best sounding acoustic I've ever had. But I cannot deal with the modified low oval neck on it. So now I'm trying to sell THREE guitars so I can get one with a v-neck. Stupid acoustic guitars.
I'll say this, though, if the writing comes easy on it and the feel and sound matches with what you expect and need out of it, you should absolutely keep it. It's very hard to find the right acoustic guitar once you've developed certain expectations.
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Post by gwlee7 on Feb 21, 2023 15:20:06 GMT -6
Sell it. Use part of the money to get a bucket list bottle of whiskey... George T Stagg maybe? Lol it wasn’t whisky but in the great and wise words of Homer Simpson, “Beer, now there’s a temporary solution”. As to the guitar, like others have said, if there’s no emotional attachment, sell it. You can get a lot of guitar that will play and record great for less. I would look at 18 series OO and OOO Martins or even maybe one of the Gibson Studio Walnut LOOs if you need another guitar to write with. For that matter, you may have a beater laying around that is more inspiring.
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Post by copperx on Feb 21, 2023 15:20:06 GMT -6
In my humble opinion, you should not confuse the guitar for an investment because it's a piss-poor one compared to the stock market, requiring upkeep and physical space. Just see it as an instrument. And if you're not using it frequently, it becomes just a depreciating asset that contributes little value to your life. Even if it has gone up in price, it could mean little if damaged. If you're not using it, it's like having $5k+ in cash under the sofa.
I would either start using it as my main playing or recording instrument and fully enjoy the sound it produces or sell it. But I wouldn't keep it if it was just in storage (unless I was fully set in life and I didn't mind losing money).
But that's just me. We're all different.
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Post by svart on Feb 21, 2023 15:34:30 GMT -6
Sell while the opportunity is still there. You can use a 500$ guitar for recording demo stuff. Chances are that nobody can tell anyway..
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Post by jmoose on Feb 21, 2023 15:58:46 GMT -6
Anyway - I’ve been trying to be more efficient with my gear purchases. This guitar is awesome…but it’s like having a Ferrari and keeping it in the garage 11 months out of the year. Hmmm. I have a friend who owns, among other cars some kinda $250k special edition Porsche 911. It does indeed live in the garage 11 months a year... basically a track car and one that, per insurance & legally speaking he can only drive I believe its a max of 10,000 miles a year. And I'll tell 'ya, it rolls far less then that. His daily is a fairly new Toyota tundra. And I'll say that he & his wife have been working in the medical industry for decades & make excellent money. Certainly more then I can dream of... wait... no... umm... Anyway that's his thing. He loves cars. Goes to the track & lights 'em up. They don't all get driven everyday. That's impossible. Sorta like, I have another friend... guitarist in a label band... touring band... (not his day gig FWIW) who plays & gigs mostly vintage guitars. Things like a '64 ES335. Known him for about 15 years and that's what he's always done. Asked him once a long time ago, at a gig we did together... how can you just leave that ES on a stand in this club filled with drunken college meatheads? Said - everything's insured and I just don't think about it. Fair nuff. Now sometimes he gigs newer Gibson's other things but those vintage guitars & amps? They don't sit home in a museum, they get tossed into trailers and pulled around. Otherwise what's the point? Its like owning the Ferrari... if your worried about dings or even tearing the thing up? Cost of putting it back together? Then you probably couldn't have afforded the thing in the first place... because believe me those lady shaver super cars? Oh yeah they get wrecked. And then its all $pecialty factory mechanic$. Over the years I've owned & have sold a fair amount of vintage gear... legit old Neve modules. German & Russian mics. Pre-CBS Fender amps... real 60s fuzz boxes that I know, given the value of what they are? Once its gone its gone. I'd never be able to afford to buy it back. Some of its still here and yeah, its gotta get used or its gotta go. Ultimately I'm kind of a collector but everything has to have actual real world "use value" to me as a studio rat musician & producer. Its not about the money, but it is about the business of music. If I had deeper pockets & unlimited storage then I'd probably keep everything! At the same time I can relate that having owned $5k telecasters, ultimately its just another fucking telecaster. But is it YOUR telecaster? This is my weapon. There are many like it but this one is mine.
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Post by ericn on Feb 21, 2023 16:02:43 GMT -6
The question you need to ask yourself is this: 6 months from now am I going to miss it if I sell it, will I want it or another special guitar?
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Post by gwlee7 on Feb 21, 2023 16:11:12 GMT -6
The question you need to ask yourself is this: 6 months from now am I going to miss it if I sell it, will I want it or another special guitar? This is a valid point. Did this particular guitar give you dreams or keep you up at night before you bought it because you were worried that someone else might get it? If so, then it’s not for sale. If it was more “impulse” buy then it is expendable. Some acoustics give me the “sweats” and those I have to keep.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 21, 2023 16:29:41 GMT -6
It’s a 1 3/4 nut and large neck that I’ve never totally been in love with. But everybody that plays it is like “whoa.” It’s definitely a bluegrass canon. That said, all it gets used for is strumming and recording country demos. And these days I rarely even do that. I recorded something with it last night and thought - I can’t sell this thing…but then I thought I’d probably be the only one to hear much of what I record…so what’s the point.
I couldn’t afford a new one of these as they’re $7k…the guy is coming over tonight to take a look at it.
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Post by copperx on Feb 21, 2023 16:32:15 GMT -6
The question you need to ask yourself is this: 6 months from now am I going to miss it if I sell it, will I want it or another special guitar? This is a valid point. Did this particular guitar give you dreams or keep you up at night before you bought it because you were worried that someone else might get it? If so, then it’s not for sale. If it was more “impulse” buy then it is expendable. Some acoustics give me the “sweats” and those I have to keep. Yup. That $5k investment should be giving the owner something right now, not in the future. Could be intangibles such as the will to play, the "sweats", inspiration, a work of art to see every day. But it should be something. Hell, if a $5k guitar gave me the motivation to play every single day it would be chump change. But if it's not adding anything to my life, it might be subtracting if it gives me anxiety or causes me to lose the opportunity to have something that I would enjoy even more.
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Post by Blackdawg on Feb 21, 2023 16:34:25 GMT -6
Id keep it unless you know 100% for certain what you're going to buy and WHY you are buying it.
Not so that you'll have 5k burning a hole in your pocket looking for a reason to buy some piece of gear that you think will make a big difference and make you more money. Because what do you need that you don't have already thats "holding you back" anyways?
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Post by sean on Feb 21, 2023 17:17:35 GMT -6
I have a lot of stuff that falls into the “I don’t use it very much but there’s nothing I want more that it would pay for if I sold it”…because everything is ducking expensive…
But there’s no shortage of great $1500-$2000 strummer guitars…so get something that’ll make you money and you’ll use all the time!
My two pieces I’m contemplating selling are a Vac Rac and Highland BG-1…which are great, worth a lot, could get something I’d use more…but I know I’ll never find them again for what I paid. SO if you got a screaming deal on the Martin and you know you’ll never find another one for what you paid, maybe keep it
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 21, 2023 18:10:10 GMT -6
I have a lot of stuff that falls into the “I don’t use it very much but there’s nothing I want more that it would pay for if I sold it”…because everything is ducking expensive… But there’s no shortage of great $1500-$2000 strummer guitars…so get something that’ll make you money and you’ll use all the time! My two pieces I’m contemplating selling are a Vac Rac and Highland BG-1…which are great, worth a lot, could get something I’d use more…but I know I’ll never find them again for what I paid. SO if you got a screaming deal on the Martin and you know you’ll never find another one for what you paid, maybe keep it I could probably get another used one for around that price. I really want this one…but I’m not paying $7k for it. Mine is the non aged and pre cooked top. Or a Pre War Guitars Dread… www.martinguitar.com/guitars/authentic-series/D-28-Authentic-1937-Aged.html
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Post by Tbone81 on Feb 21, 2023 19:24:54 GMT -6
Only sell it if you know exactly what you're getting with the money...its got to be worth it, and preferably something that is as sexy as that guitar.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 21, 2023 19:30:32 GMT -6
Well this thread might all have been for nothing. He came, really liked it, but is deciding between mine and one of the aged ones that are for sale locally…I think he likes the aged look better. It’s all up to the guitar gods now.
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Post by geoff738 on Feb 21, 2023 20:30:35 GMT -6
If it were me? I would keep it. But I’m a guitarist primarily. I definitely wouldn’t part with it lightly.
As for the Pre War? They are on my radar. The ageing thing is neither here nor there for me. The client list though?
Have you or anybody else here played one?
Cheers, Geoff
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2023 20:52:55 GMT -6
Watch some Alan Holdsworth guitar videos. An instrument is a tool to make music. If you’re not using it as a tool, it could be replaced by something just as useful, and the money can make you more money be being put toward something else, then get rid of it.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Feb 21, 2023 21:59:27 GMT -6
I've played some fantastic sounding Martin's that cost $1,200-$1,600. They record as well as any Martin. I had a very special D-41 Turbo. There were only 11 made to those exact specifications. Of the 11, 2 were shade tops. I bought the better one. It was like owning a Stradivarius. Master guitarists I knew thought it was the finest guitar they'd ever played. Back when I bought it, it was $5,500. I had to sell after surgeries to survive. Of all the guitars I've had, it was the most special. I miss it, but do not need it. Over the years I've used many D-28's, and a few signature models. The Martin I have now was a gift, a 000-16 GTE. I could easily get a Martin that sounds as good for $1,100-$1,500. I'm able to get the Martin sound on recordings and I think you wouldn't feel like you're missing much if you let the D-28 go. Sell the D-28, cherry pick one of the very good Martin's like the Aura models that sell used for $1,100. You'll be 97% or maybe even 100% as happy with the tone. Then pocket the change and be happy. Get something you'll use a lot. You can always indulge in a special edition any time you're extra flush. Attachment Deleted
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Post by eyebytwomuchgeer on Feb 21, 2023 22:02:42 GMT -6
Like all of us, I've bought gear that I thought I'd never part with, ever, only to sell it for some reason and I've never really regretted any of it in the long term. The most recent big thing I sold was my custom ordered and very beautiful Ludwig Legacy drumset. Those are basically the modern version of a vintage Ludwig drumset. It was soooo pretty but I just didn't like the sound, and I never bonded with it fully. Now all I have are beat to hell (but amazing sounding) vintage Ludwigs with extra holes, wonky bearing edges, dents, scratches, etc. It stung for about a day, and since then, I haven't looked back at all. That sale funded my inital dive into the recording world, and since then, I've never been more musically inspired or broke haha.
If you can sell gear and use the cash to make good/positive long-term moves, its usually worth it, especially when you're already on the fence with selling. You hardly ever consider selling the stuff that is really important, as it just never crosses your mind unless you're in REAL dire straights.
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