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Post by RealNoob on Feb 13, 2023 22:44:53 GMT -6
I see the old Symphonies, the old Aroura's and the old Avid interfaces. Are any worth having and will run off a MBP? Is there something else? I was looking at the old AD16 and DA16's but too complicated for a MBP I believe. So many records made on all of these. Just has my interest as I couldn't own them when they were "it".
Any thoughts?
I have the Orion Studio, Motu Ultralight AVB and BLA Revolution.
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Post by seawell on Feb 13, 2023 22:53:23 GMT -6
I still have 3 of the old Aurora 16s. They still sound and work great! A bonus is that they always work with Pro Tools delay compensation perfectly which can’t be said for some others(ahem…Antelope).
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Post by levon on Feb 14, 2023 3:37:42 GMT -6
I still use my old Apogee Rosettas 200s and 800s, they work fine and sound great. But, you have to keep in mind that their drivers don't work with any current OS, so you're forced to freeze your system at a certain point. No problem for me, but I can't upgrade anymore and a lot of newer and upcoming plugins won't work for me. Which is not necessarily a bad thing!
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Post by allbuttonmode on Feb 14, 2023 4:25:48 GMT -6
I have 3 of the old type Lynx Aurora. I see no reason to replace them anytime soon. I'll happily add more of them to my setup, should I need more I/Os.
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Post by thehightenor on Feb 14, 2023 5:01:03 GMT -6
My HEDD 192 is now 15 years old and I've yet to hear an A/D/A I prefer - it's just so musical sounding - great for tracking, mixing and mastering - what's not to love.
Only 2 channels of course.
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 14, 2023 7:14:58 GMT -6
What’s the issue with the mbp: its got usb and tbolt or no tbolt pre 2012 ?
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Post by tkaitkai on Feb 14, 2023 8:25:32 GMT -6
The MOTU has ADAT I/O, so if you wanted to go with an AD/DA16X, you would only need a few optical cables to get it hooked up.
That said, if portability is a concern, it might be kind of annoying to lug around an AD16X and a DA16X, plus interface, laptop, PSUs, etc.
FWIW, I was also seriously considering an AD16X before I bought my old Aurora 8. In retrospect, I kind of wish I had went with the Apogee, as I never really liked the Aurora. But I'm now totally happy with my Lavry Blue.
Might be worth looking into some of the older Myteks, the aforementioned HEDD, or even the old Lucid stuff.
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Post by mcirish on Feb 14, 2023 9:23:51 GMT -6
Like some of the others, I have a first gen Lynx Aurora 16 that I have AES feed 8 more channels to get 24. Works fantastic. If my mix sucks, it isn't the fault of the converter. This has been rock solid. I use Thunderbolt and latency has never been an issue.
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Post by RealNoob on Feb 14, 2023 10:58:33 GMT -6
What’s the issue with the mbp: its got usb and tbolt or no tbolt pre 2012 ? It is new - all the bells and whistles, just no PCI cards or w/e
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Post by kcatthedog on Feb 14, 2023 11:12:36 GMT -6
You just need a pci-e chassis over tbolt?
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Post by spindrift on Feb 14, 2023 13:14:31 GMT -6
Another vote for the Lynx Aurora 8/16 converters.They run HOT but still sound great.
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Post by ericn on Feb 14, 2023 13:18:25 GMT -6
If I had the need for ADAT I/O conversion I would not hesitate to buy Panasonic Ramas WZad/DA again!
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Post by RealNoob on Feb 14, 2023 13:33:19 GMT -6
You just need a pci-e chassis over tbolt? Thanks. didn't know that was possible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2023 15:19:52 GMT -6
The 8 channel lucid converters, spl Madison, Lavry, and 8 channel mytek converters are good. Use straight adat, aes/spdif, or madi converters to avoid driver hell
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2023 15:20:59 GMT -6
If I had the need for ADAT I/O conversion I would not hesitate to buy Panasonic Ramas WZad/DA again! Almost all of these you see used are beat to hell. I saw even saw one pair with fire or acid damage and it still worked
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Post by RealNoob on Feb 15, 2023 14:32:22 GMT -6
What about the previous generation Avid interfaces, HD stuff? Are they a pain?
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Post by ericn on Feb 15, 2023 15:56:48 GMT -6
What about the previous generation Avid interfaces, HD stuff? Are they a pain? Not bad but really only designed for HD and HD native
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Post by sirthought on Feb 15, 2023 16:35:34 GMT -6
I've always been interested in the HEDD 192, but I'd like more than two channels and it's pretty pricey (to me) for just two channels. I think I have to face that that's the price of entry.
I've been debating also switching my interface to a Prism Sound Lyra 2 as an option for better converters with some onboard mic preamps that are decent.
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Post by ab101 on Feb 15, 2023 18:19:36 GMT -6
If you can find some used Forssell converters, they are excellent.
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Post by Darren Boling on Feb 15, 2023 18:28:12 GMT -6
There's a Prism 8XR on eBay for $4k
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Post by seawell on Feb 16, 2023 0:58:19 GMT -6
What about the previous generation Avid interfaces, HD stuff? Are they a pain? I have one HD I/O 16x16. Sounds great but I did replace the stock fan as it was a bit too loud to be in the control room.
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Post by ragan on Feb 16, 2023 1:27:40 GMT -6
Lucid 88192
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Post by jmoose on Feb 16, 2023 18:19:12 GMT -6
Any thoughts? I have the Orion Studio, Motu Ultralight AVB and BLA Revolution. Whuddya think of the BLA? That's the $300 stereo interface box yeah? Think I still have an old Mytek kicking around... stereo A/D... believe its 20 bit? 44 & 48kHz only. If anyone really wants it they can have it for the cost of shipping & a bottle of whisky. Save it from the landfill. Seriously. Been a few years since I last used it for anything, and it still sounded good... but that's kinda the problem... its good but not THAT good. Not against most modern stuff. Not good enough to deal with some of the shortcomings & workarounds. And honestly last time I plugged it in..? One channel showed digital black & the other had some fizz way down at like -87dBfs... just barely enough to register. Caps? Power supply issues? Who knows its from like 1998. Ancient! I thought about the old Apogee 16X boxes a few years ago and quickly reached the same points mentioned above... namely "support" and lack of. Like the old Mytek there's not many people who want to fix this old junk. And hail Satan... if the piece in question needs drivers? From the windows XP days? Why? IMO most interfaces & converter boxes these days sound really excellent... in as much as what goes in comes back. Given all the tech hurdles of dealing w/ old digital, especially having lived through it I just can't see a reason to go backwards. Not unless there was a reason to run a legacy DAW system. FWIW my main box is a Motu 16A and, once everything is level matched? I can't honestly really tell the difference between a live mix off the SSL XL desk and a captured playback. How much "better" can converters get?
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Post by hadaja on Feb 16, 2023 18:58:46 GMT -6
I just got an old rack case handed to me. Full of old gear.
Yamaha rev 7 Korg sdd-2000 digital delay Yamaha spx1000 Lexicon pcm80
Just like those old converters I cant see myself using any of that Or this gear Any of these extra special?
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Post by jmoose on Feb 16, 2023 20:14:20 GMT -6
Seriously? I'd use that stuff all day everyday. Been a long time since I heard a Rev7 but I remember them being pretty legit... PCM80? Korg is the sampling delay?
Outboard is useful. Old converters & interfaces..? Not so much. I have some around for legacy rigs but even that's way scaled back to a single win XP system, just in case I ever need it.
Reverbs & delays are always useful and I dunno, I dig some of the sounds those boxes make. They aren't like plugins... but like anything else they gotta work. I don't need or want half busted junk hanging around.
And most outboard? Minor things can be fixed, if its a power supply issue or sticky switches. Anyone who can fix a guitar amp can poke around & likely get an old SPX box up & running again.
Lose a channel on a 15 year old Apogee? They don't wanna know about it. Nobody wanted to look at the fizzy channel on my old Mytek...
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