Ringy snare

Native.

Probably the only thing I took away longterm from watching Warren Huart's stuff is the trick Ken Sluiter demonstrated using tab to transient. The difference on Native is that I don't think Native has the "replace all instances of clip" with one you Cmd+Shift drag from the clips list.

1. Find a sample you like, for example, snare
2. Place a new track above a real snare track you want to augment or replace
3. Drag the sample to that track and cut it to the clipboard
4. Select the snare track, then also select the new track
5. Group them
6. Click in the new track which will put the cursor across both

With tab to transient on you should then be able to hit tab and it'll stop on a snare transient, then Cmd+V and it'll paste your sample in the new track. Takes time to go across an entire song but I do this nearly every time with live drums when I want to slightly enhance the sound or lower a ringy snare, etc.

With HD you can do the same above but create and use a consolidated clip and paste that instead. With the "replace all instances" option you can paste the slug clip across snare or kick (or whatever), copy the track as many times as you want and then drag different samples to replace the slugs in the tracks.

It's work but I think it sounds a million times more natural than Trigger2 which I used to use.

Boz Transgressor is the tool I use the most for this. You may want to demo it if you haven’t yet:

www.bozdigitallabs.com/product/transgressor-2/

If the ring is really bad, sometimes you have to use a bit on the overheads and room mics too. It’s such a pain! Good luck!

I find that a notch filter can be too drastic in solo, but work in the mix. Also, you can use the notch to sweep but then broaden the Q.

Notch filter. Sweep till you find the worst spots and see if that helps enough..

Yup. This plus transient master are my go-to. I've got a drummer I track very often who refuses to dampen his snare ~ and thinks the ring is king. I do it so often I can almost fix it without listening at this point 

You probably do this already, but I divide the snare in my mind into something like attack, sustain (body), and snap. Usually mute everything except kick and snare, kind of an 80s way I guess.. The ring is usually in the sustain/body part of the sound.

So first I try to make the attack way louder than the sustain. I want to hear just the stick. 12:1 or 20:1 ratio compression, attack 120ms/release 5-10ms.. and start backing down *attack* until it’s just the “smack”. I might end up around ~60ms or 100ms .. whatever you need. Then add EQ … bring lots of top end for snap, suck away 400 to get rid of boxy ring etc , boost 250 or low shelf kind of thing for punch. Most snares (and kicks) are already totally transformed from this and act more like a sample. Then boost really really loud (in the mix I mean) and start messing with other mics, overheads first super quiet.. is that enough? Or do I need to do more? Try a stereo room reverb on an aux and an expander on the snare first, .. if I switch to a gate that usually means more is needed.

More means= I’ll duplicate the snare track.. (I prefer that to a send) and focus the compression and EQ on the clone to be the sustain/body.. and blend it very quietly to fill in where I took too much away with the gate.

Reverbs etc help. If none of this works.. time to mess with samples and pitch shifters and automation hell

Seeing as how the ring issue is a repeated thing and has been happening for a long time, I’d say the main thing to do is tune the snare better for future recordings. Or, as was mentioned previously, try to pitch shift the ring if possible.

As a drummer, I used to hate a ringy snare until I started to tune the ring to the key of the song. Now I love the ring. The snare sits better and doesn’t need as much eq to cut.

There is certainly a difference (at least to me) between a pleasing ring and and annoying cacophony of weird overtones. It takes some practice to get the snare to tune to a nice solid ringy pitch and still maintain some snare-iness. Once I get in that area, I usually use a small piece of gaff tape to tame some of the ring. It if I’m hearing a lot of weird zings and frequencies instead of a solid tone, it’s time to retune. A well-tuned ring sort of gets lost in the track once everything is piled on top.

just did this on a song. helps tremendously. I am also supplementing with samples.

The notch filter is the solution if it designed to be a true digital filter not an emulation of an analog filter and all the fun phase issues.

If you want to kill the ring, notching in the 270-600 range will usually help and/or a transient designer. That said, as some else suggested, you can embrace the ring and tune the snare to something within the key. Usually if the ring is in the key of the song, its not so annoying.

A few months back I received a track to mix (that I didn't record) where the snare was a ringy F and the key of the song was E major. As you can imagine, it was not the most pleasing ring. Pitching it down the 1/2 step made it significantly less brutal.