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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 14, 2014 15:40:58 GMT -6
I've never owned a hardware 2 bus compressor...could never really afford one. What are the big money options and the cheap options? Honestly, I barely even use 2 bus compression with plugs. Sometimes I use the FG-x compressor. Tried VBC many a time, but usually end up thinking it sounds better. I tend to group most instruments and compress there, so sometimes I feel like 2 bus compression can be more destructive than helpful. But there's also the possibility that I ain't doing it right. Do you guys mix into the 2 bus compression? Slap it on and see if it sounds better?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 14, 2014 15:43:21 GMT -6
I also wonder - with hardware - if it's really more about the 2 mix going through more transformers and that being what people really dig about it. I am sending the 2 mix back through the Burl and I feel like that's been a big awesome final punch and swath. About to have two VP28's and gonna try and go through them and then the Burl. Who knows - might be too much. We will see.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 15:46:38 GMT -6
It's the first thing I put on. I hear a bit of punch immediately which affects all my decisions from there. It find it reduces the amount I use on busses and channels.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 14, 2014 15:49:32 GMT -6
What you using?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 16:00:51 GMT -6
Daking FET III. It's pretty clean but does have a sound (despite some reports) and is punchy.
Infinitely variable linking and high pass make it pretty flexible too. It can sound invisible or provide some attitude.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 14, 2014 16:43:25 GMT -6
I'm still really satisfied mixing into my RJR as a fairly inexpensive SSL type option.
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Post by bentley on Jun 14, 2014 17:48:52 GMT -6
Have a Crane Song STC-8 that I got a good deal on long ago. Never use it for more than a few db of reduction and slap it on before I mix. Just sounds really classy for lack of a better adjective.
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Post by joey808 on Jun 14, 2014 20:12:30 GMT -6
Really like the Neve MBP and the Dangerous Compressor
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 20:25:26 GMT -6
Really like the Neve MBP and the Dangerous Compressor How would you describe the Dangerous unit? |
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Post by joey808 on Jun 14, 2014 22:05:04 GMT -6
Hi Heartfelt
The Dangerous is very musical, transparent and punchy! The smart dyn feature works great, metering and build is top notch.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 22:27:24 GMT -6
Well, generally...
I like more stages of compression with less gain reduction each better, than heavy compression on the single tracks...(old school?)
Sure, SSL type compressors glue stuff together, a classic i like. Hardware or software. But in the last time i like the glue more in the drum bus and try out different software emus in the 2-bus more often. A bit of vari-mu like compression can be cool on the 2-bus, too, sometimes...IMO
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2014 22:34:29 GMT -6
For some time, i used an EMT266 hardware lookahead limiter in the soft knee setting on everything in 2-bus, because it's very slight sonic fingerprint reminded me of the german radioplay of my childhood/teenager times. These guys stood in many radio stations, so all the cool music ran thru it... :-)
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Post by svart on Jun 14, 2014 22:38:01 GMT -6
Ssl bus compressor. Both drums and master bus. About 3-4db max compression is all you need. Any more and its too much.
I'm with smallbutfine, I always try to do less compression on more tracks than heavy compression on fewer tracks.
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Post by noah shain on Jun 14, 2014 23:52:00 GMT -6
I use a Roll Super Stereo a lot. Slick.
I have been liking the SHDV lately.
Overstayer VCA flexible and strong.
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Post by henge on Jun 15, 2014 5:07:25 GMT -6
Does any one use anything other than a comp on the 2 buss? I have an eq2nv on the 2 buss because I love the low end spread it gives even if I'm not eqing with it. I also have the VBC Red on the 2 buss for colour, no hardware comp though.
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Post by drumrec on Jun 15, 2014 7:10:14 GMT -6
Does any one use anything other than a comp on the 2 buss? I have an eq2nv on the 2 buss because I love the low end spread it gives even if I'm not eqing with it. I also have the VBC Red on the 2 buss for colour, no hardware comp though. Yes, I usually use my old Neve 33115 eq on the 2 bus. Just for a bit of luxury to the top and a little push in the bottom 1-2db only! sounds wonderful |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jun 15, 2014 7:46:53 GMT -6
I use UAD's Ampex 102 tape sim, then Slate's VBC on the 2 bus, but mainly for tone, not much compression, occasionally a little Clariphonic if the track needs something, but rarely, then over to the A.O.M Stereo Widener and A.O.M Compressor,. I treat my 2 bus like a mastering session. It's easy to add too much saturation, so I keep it all minimal.
I have Slate's FG-X, but it doesn't work in 64 bits for almost a year and a half now, so I never use it. I'm hoping their 64 bit revision will be better, the original was too harsh.
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Post by joey808 on Jun 15, 2014 9:14:11 GMT -6
Also use Ozone Advanced, Fabfilter, MPX and or VTM
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Post by Ward on Jun 15, 2014 9:52:09 GMT -6
Focusrite Red 3 and Red 2 are still my choices for Stereo Buss after many years. CLA's use of them had nothing to do with my use of them, and he has since moved on to other things... but Iam quite content with the pair of these. They do everything they are supposed to do. Hard to find and sometimes pricey, but worth it.
Of course, I would love to have a Chandler Zener.
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Post by henge on Jun 15, 2014 10:36:23 GMT -6
Focusrite Red 3 and Red 2 are still my choices for Stereo Buss after many years. CLA's use of them had nothing to do with my use of them, and he has since moved on to other things... but Iam quite content with the pair of these. They do everything they are supposed to do. Hard to find and sometimes pricey, but worth it. Of course, I would love to have a Chandler Zener. I would love to get your take on the VBC red!:-) |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2014 11:34:41 GMT -6
I'm still really satisfied mixing into my RJR as a fairly inexpensive SSL type option. Had one of these and will also echo this. Very nice piece, big and WIDE unlike the SSL. SSL always narrows things in a cool way though, mix compacter. I'd look at Overstayer as well, supposedly their stuff is quite nice. Plugins wise, the Waves SSL is killer, so is VBC (particularly the Red), the API 2500 is not good for me at all. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 15, 2014 13:54:52 GMT -6
After my experience with the Burl, I am really believing in hardware transformers.
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Post by Ward on Jun 15, 2014 14:05:46 GMT -6
Focusrite Red 3 and Red 2 are still my choices for Stereo Buss after many years. CLA's use of them had nothing to do with my use of them, and he has since moved on to other things... but Iam quite content with the pair of these. They do everything they are supposed to do. Hard to find and sometimes pricey, but worth it. Of course, I would love to have a Chandler Zener. I would love to get your take on the VBC red!:-) I haven't had any experience with it... but if I had this plugin, I could compare the two! |
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Post by noah shain on Jun 15, 2014 23:43:51 GMT -6
I usually run through a Retro 2a3, Maag EQ, and a pair of old transformers as well as any compressors.
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Post by henge on Jun 16, 2014 7:17:15 GMT -6
Has anyone had great results with a Fatso on the bus? I have UBK modded one but the saturation and tranny section are unchanged from the original. I find the Fatso makes everything sound smaller. Anyone else use it with success?
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