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Post by stratboy on Dec 5, 2022 14:57:40 GMT -6
I recently bought the Fender Tweed sim. Great sound! So I went further down the rabbit hole and bought the Marshall Silver Jubilee. Also great.
But…
What about some clean tones? The collection has a lot of metal amps but no classic Vox or Fender. Any UAD amp sim users out there have a favorite for clean tones, ala Fender Twin or AC30?
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 5, 2022 15:38:36 GMT -6
Have you demoed their fender pedal ?
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Post by stratboy on Dec 5, 2022 15:43:53 GMT -6
Have you demoed their fender pedal ? No. I’ll look into it. I’m hoping for some ideas within the plug-in world, but if UA simulates a variety of Fender amps in their pedal, it might be worth it. Thanks! |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 5, 2022 15:48:51 GMT -6
Its just that they have 3 pedals snd one is fender and another vox they are both well reviewed.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 5, 2022 15:49:51 GMT -6
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Post by tkaitkai on Dec 5, 2022 15:49:55 GMT -6
I remember getting some decent clean tones with the Suhr SE100 and Friedman BE100 when I had my Apollo.
But in all honesty, I was always kind of underwhelmed with the UAD amps.
I think you can get much better clean tones with TH-U or Klevgrand Stark (this one can be a little fiddly, but once you get it right, it’s friggin awesome).
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 5, 2022 15:51:23 GMT -6
Pete’s always good !  |
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Post by stratboy on Dec 5, 2022 16:06:36 GMT -6
I remember getting some decent clean tones with the Suhr SE100 and Friedman BE100 when I had my Apollo. But in all honesty, I was always kind of underwhelmed with the UAD amps. I think you can get much better clean tones with TH-U or Klevgrand Stark (this one can be a little fiddly, but once you get it right, it’s friggin awesome). Thanks! I’ll take a look. |
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Post by stratboy on Dec 5, 2022 16:07:30 GMT -6
Pete’s always good ! Nice! I respect his reviews. Thanks. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 5, 2022 16:48:06 GMT -6
Me too: enjoy!
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 5, 2022 17:37:48 GMT -6
Have you demoed their fender pedal ? No. I’ll look into it. I’m hoping for some ideas within the plug-in world, but if UA simulates a variety of Fender amps in their pedal, it might be worth it. Thanks! That Dream 65 is freaking awesome. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 5, 2022 17:38:39 GMT -6
No. I’ll look into it. I’m hoping for some ideas within the plug-in world, but if UA simulates a variety of Fender amps in their pedal, it might be worth it. Thanks! That Dream 65 is freaking awesome. I think I have some level of review in the guitar forum |
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Post by guitarheadhunt on Dec 5, 2022 18:16:44 GMT -6
Not a UAD amp, but Neural DSP Tone King amp is phenomenal. The Rabea sims have a realil nice clean amp as well. It takes care of my need for clean. Yeah you can't put it in a unison slot and you have to play it through your DAW. To me neither of this is a big deal. I plug my guitar striaght in to my apollo and play with hardly any noticble latency. Plus I too have never been impressed
with any of the UAD amp sims. Most of them are made by plug in alliance or softubes. Mot a big fan there either. Demo the Tone King from Neural. I just picked it up on a BF sale for $49. I think the sale is over but they might do it again for Christmas.
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Post by sirthought on Dec 6, 2022 2:04:21 GMT -6
You can get some decent clean tones out of the Fender 55 but it really takes more work than it should. You have to really play with the input and output levels.
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Post by spindrift on Dec 6, 2022 6:45:46 GMT -6
The Fender 55 is a fav UAD plugin. Where is the Champ, Bassman, and Princeton Amp sims? They have a heap of other weirdo amps but seem to be missing the bread and butter.
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Post by stratboy on Dec 6, 2022 14:31:54 GMT -6
The Fender 55 is a fav UAD plugin. Where is the Champ, Bassman, and Princeton Amp sims? They have a heap of other weirdo amps but seem to be missing the bread and butter. My thoughts exactly. |
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Post by stratboy on Dec 6, 2022 14:34:36 GMT -6
You can get some decent clean tones out of the Fender 55 but it really takes more work than it should. You have to really play with the input and output levels. Yes. I’m messing with that approach now. After listening to a LOT of clips on the UAD site, I’m thinking the Fuchs models might get the most agreeable cleans. I think I’ll demo one of them to investigate further. |
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Post by stratboy on Dec 6, 2022 14:35:35 GMT -6
Not a UAD amp, but Neural DSP Tone King amp is phenomenal. The Rabea sims have a realil nice clean amp as well. It takes care of my need for clean. Yeah you can't put it in a unison slot and you have to play it through your DAW. To me neither of this is a big deal. I plug my guitar striaght in to my apollo and play with hardly any noticble latency. Plus I too have never been impressed with any of the UAD amp sims. Most of them are made by plug in alliance or softubes. Mot a big fan there either. Demo the Tone King from Neural. I just picked it up on a BF sale for $49. I think the sale is over but they might do it again for Christmas. Thanks! I’ll keep an eye on these. Too expensive for right now. |
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Post by subspace on Dec 6, 2022 14:36:25 GMT -6
Speaking of metal amps, my most used sim for clean tones is the Diezel Herbert, channel one. It's a nice high headroom clean tone.
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Post by stratboy on Dec 6, 2022 14:38:06 GMT -6
That Dream 65 is freaking awesome. I think I have some level of review in the guitar forum Thanks, John. Is theDream 65 one of the models in the UAD pedal? I looked for a post or thread in the Guitar/etc forum. Couldn’t find it. |
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Post by stratboy on Dec 6, 2022 14:39:32 GMT -6
Speaking of metal amps, my most used sim for clean tones is the Diezel Herbert, channel one. It's a nice high headroom clean tone. Good to know! I’ll demo it. All the Herbert clips I listened to were high gain, not clean, so I crossed it off my list. |
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Post by stratboy on Dec 6, 2022 14:40:32 GMT -6
I remember getting some decent clean tones with the Suhr SE100 and Friedman BE100 when I had my Apollo. But in all honesty, I was always kind of underwhelmed with the UAD amps. I think you can get much better clean tones with TH-U or Klevgrand Stark (this one can be a little fiddly, but once you get it right, it’s friggin awesome). Thanks! I’ll take a look. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2022 15:00:19 GMT -6
They all suck vs what you can buy native.
Fuse F59 is the best Fender plugin. It’s a tweed.
Mercurial Spark is the best Marshall style.
Overloud best general purposes.
Best distortion pedals are Fuse and the Cytomic the Scream.
Best IRs are Ownhammer generally
Best free irs are the studio nord Bremen ones
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Post by Quint on Dec 6, 2022 15:23:16 GMT -6
I think amp plugins, regardless of UAD, any other dsp, or native pretty much all suck. The gain staging always seems to be painful to get right, so that you get the tone you want, which is the opposite of how it is on a real amp. You just turn a few knobs and go. There's also always concerns about latency and/or cpu which, again, are not something you ever have to worry about with a real amp. Running UAD amps on an Apollo largely kills the latency issue but the gain staging still just sucks. Natively, you still gotta deal with both issues.
For my money, these amps in a box/pedal have come a long way in recent years. Yeah, they're still basically a plugin in a box, but that box has real dedicated knobs, there are no weird gain staging issues (you just turn the knobs and go) and there is effectively zero latency, which means you still get to use it just like a real amp and actually have some fun with it instead of killing the vibe worrying about all of the computer stuff.
My first preference is still to use real amps, but I do like the Iridium quite a bit for what it is, and also would like to try one of these new UAD pedals. However, I've pretty much given up on amp plugins in the computer. Anyway, that would be my vote over any of the plugins.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 6, 2022 15:25:33 GMT -6
They all suck vs what you can buy native. Fuse F59 is the best Fender plugin. It’s a tweed. Mercurial Spark is the best Marshall style. Overloud best general purposes. Best distortion pedals are Fuse and the Cytomic the Scream. Best IRs are Ownhammer generally Best free irs are the studio nord Bremen ones Best? |
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