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Post by drumsound on Nov 19, 2022 19:39:22 GMT -6
So, when I got the Mac Studio I bought an OWC 7200 RPM drive and, to be blunt, I FUCKING HATE IT.
I either get random ticks, or speed failures. I had planned to get an SSD but was advised that I didn't need to spend the money. Now I wish I had.
I really don't want another OWC piece.
So, what I want is a fast 2TB SSD drive. I don't have sample libraries, I just record musicians, wave files at 24bit/88.2
The drive I bought with my old computer just hummed along and never gave me any problems, and still works great even with the new Mac and newer PT.
Hit me with suggestions. What do you like and why?
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Post by ab101 on Nov 19, 2022 20:15:20 GMT -6
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Post by EmRR on Nov 19, 2022 20:15:55 GMT -6
Samsung T7’s
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Post by mattbroiler on Nov 19, 2022 21:00:02 GMT -6
agreed just stick with the Samsung ssds don't bother with those other brands
had some ADatas fail on me awhile back and that was a mess
for external add on drives a 2.5" ssd in a decent usb 3.0 external drive enclosure is a good solution
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Post by aremos on Nov 19, 2022 21:02:38 GMT -6
So, when I got the Mac Studio I bought an OWC 7200 RPM drive and, to be blunt, I FUCKING HATE IT. I either get random ticks, or speed failures. I had planned to get an SSD but was advised that I didn't need to spend the money. Now I wish I had. I really don't want another OWC piece. So, what I want is a fast 2TB SSD drive. I don't have sample libraries, I just record musicians, wave files at 24bit/88.2 The drive I bought with my old computer just hummed along and never gave me any problems, and still works great even with the new Mac and newer PT. Hit me with suggestions. What do you like and why? That exact thing happened to 1 of my 4 OWC drives 2 years ago & another one just died on me last weekend in the middle of a project where I had to go to GC & buy the only thing available - Glyph Studio 4TB. Have noticed it gets stuck (colored revolving ball on PT) once in a while. Wish I'd known about which reliable SSD for Pro Tools HD is recommended. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 19, 2022 21:07:57 GMT -6
I’m using a T7 for my tracking drive.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 20, 2022 3:10:56 GMT -6
Sorry about that.
I have two like 10 year old owc spinning hardrives and two ssd in my 2012 mbp, no problems.
I think ssd is the way to go now, especially during black Friday sales.
Buy what you like, good luck.
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Post by reddirt on Nov 20, 2022 3:46:08 GMT -6
Tony, I'm wondering why you'd even bother with a spinner these days?
Cheers, Ross
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Post by thehightenor on Nov 20, 2022 3:48:08 GMT -6
As long as the SSD has Samsung in the name you'll be set to go, aside from one dodgy early EVO model (which got replaced by Samsung)
I've found them to be very reliable and fast for music applications.
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Post by notneeson on Nov 20, 2022 8:22:33 GMT -6
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Post by bchurch on Nov 20, 2022 8:24:54 GMT -6
I'm actually surprised any audio application would even consider a platter drive in this day and age. You can whip up an easy-peasy redundant RAID spanner for instant backup - add cloud backup and voila. What used to cost thousands now barely costs a few hundred.
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 20, 2022 10:03:00 GMT -6
I don't see how a 7200 drive is choking. I do sessions in 384k on a 7200 drive without issue.
Hell I do that on USB 7200 drives.
You sure there isn't another issue at all hand?
24/88.2 isn't that high of a data stream in the grand scheme of a decent 7200 drive and definitely not in the world of thunderbolt or USB 3.0 which is what all the busses are on the Mac.
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Post by drbill on Nov 20, 2022 11:19:08 GMT -6
I don't see how a 7200 drive is choking. I do sessions in 384k on a 7200 drive without issue. Hell I do that on USB 7200 drives. You sure there isn't another issue at all hand? 24/88.2 isn't that high of a data stream in the grand scheme of a decent 7200 drive and definitely not in the world of thunderbolt or USB 3.0 which is what all the busses are on the Mac. I'd second this. Something seems to be going on. But if throwing an SSD fixes things, then go for it. But it might not. As far as SSD's, I'll 4th or 5th it. Samsung. BTW, rocking 7200 rpm drives for most of my work drives. Zero issues. 150+ tracks (many/most stereo) with lots of VST's - Mojave / 2012 updated to the fastest it can go Cheesegrater. |
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Post by plinker on Nov 20, 2022 15:09:00 GMT -6
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Post by RealNoob on Nov 20, 2022 15:34:12 GMT -6
I have had 7-10 Samsung T5s and then T7 drives. I use them primarily for video production and haven't had a single issue over several years
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Post by plinker on Nov 20, 2022 16:49:09 GMT -6
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Post by ab101 on Nov 20, 2022 18:13:22 GMT -6
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Post by drumsound on Nov 20, 2022 19:21:54 GMT -6
Tony, I'm wondering why you'd even bother with a spinner these days? Cheers, Ross I was advised by someone I trust that I'd be fine with it. And my last spinner treated me GREAT. I'm actually surprised any audio application would even consider a platter drive in this day and age. You can whip up an easy-peasy redundant RAID spanner for instant backup - add cloud backup and voila. What used to cost thousands now barely costs a few hundred. See above I don't see how a 7200 drive is choking. I do sessions in 384k on a 7200 drive without issue. Hell I do that on USB 7200 drives. You sure there isn't another issue at all hand? 24/88.2 isn't that high of a data stream in the grand scheme of a decent 7200 drive and definitely not in the world of thunderbolt or USB 3.0 which is what all the busses are on the Mac. Yeah, and on my Mini from like 2015 I NEVER had throughput BS. I had OWC on the phone a couple weeks back, and they weren't very helpful. I don't see how a 7200 drive is choking. I do sessions in 384k on a 7200 drive without issue. Hell I do that on USB 7200 drives. You sure there isn't another issue at all hand? 24/88.2 isn't that high of a data stream in the grand scheme of a decent 7200 drive and definitely not in the world of thunderbolt or USB 3.0 which is what all the busses are on the Mac. I'd second this. Something seems to be going on. But if throwing an SSD fixes things, then go for it. But it might not. As far as SSD's, I'll 4th or 5th it. Samsung. BTW, rocking 7200 rpm drives for most of my work drives. Zero issues. 150+ tracks (many/most stereo) with lots of VST's - Mojave / 2012 updated to the fastest it can go Cheesegrater. Which is why I HATE this OWC drive. --- Samsung here I come. I'm a fan of their phones and TVs, I may as well go for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2022 19:59:54 GMT -6
If you can't get the spinner performing the way it should, then I'd skip the SSD and go directly to an M.2 enclosure. SSDs are speed-constrained by the fact that they still use an interface that was designed for spinners. I've got a couple of the Sonnet Echo Thunderbolt Docks (on a Mac Studio), which act both as docks and as M.2 enclosures. Although they'll work with a single M.2, I set them up as RAID-0 with pairs. I get write speeds of over 2300 MB/s and read speeds just a little faster. You'll never get anything like that speed for SSD (you'll top out at 550 or so). The rusty disks are still worth using for frequent backup. And I do concur that Samsung is the stronger choice for solid-state drives.
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 20, 2022 20:02:19 GMT -6
Tony, I'm wondering why you'd even bother with a spinner these days? Cheers, Ross I was advised by someone I trust that I'd be fine with it. And my last spinner treated me GREAT. I'm actually surprised any audio application would even consider a platter drive in this day and age. You can whip up an easy-peasy redundant RAID spanner for instant backup - add cloud backup and voila. What used to cost thousands now barely costs a few hundred. See above I don't see how a 7200 drive is choking. I do sessions in 384k on a 7200 drive without issue. Hell I do that on USB 7200 drives. You sure there isn't another issue at all hand? 24/88.2 isn't that high of a data stream in the grand scheme of a decent 7200 drive and definitely not in the world of thunderbolt or USB 3.0 which is what all the busses are on the Mac. Yeah, and on my Mini from like 2015 I NEVER had throughput BS. I had OWC on the phone a couple weeks back, and they weren't very helpful. I'd second this. Something seems to be going on. But if throwing an SSD fixes things, then go for it. But it might not. As far as SSD's, I'll 4th or 5th it. Samsung. BTW, rocking 7200 rpm drives for most of my work drives. Zero issues. 150+ tracks (many/most stereo) with lots of VST's - Mojave / 2012 updated to the fastest it can go Cheesegrater. Which is why I HATE this OWC drive. --- Samsung here I come. I'm a fan of their phones and TVs, I may as well go for it. What is the exact model you have? |
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Post by drumsound on Nov 20, 2022 20:12:37 GMT -6
I was advised by someone I trust that I'd be fine with it. And my last spinner treated me GREAT. See above Yeah, and on my Mini from like 2015 I NEVER had throughput BS. I had OWC on the phone a couple weeks back, and they weren't very helpful. Which is why I HATE this OWC drive. --- Samsung here I come. I'm a fan of their phones and TVs, I may as well go for it. What is the exact model you have? Mercury Pro Elite |
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Post by drbill on Nov 20, 2022 20:22:40 GMT -6
What is the exact model you have? Mercury Pro Elite That's just the enclosure. What physical drive is in it? Not all drives are created equal. |
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Post by EmRR on Nov 20, 2022 20:48:18 GMT -6
If you can't get the spinner performing the way it should, then I'd skip the SSD and go directly to an M.2 enclosure. SSDs are speed-constrained by the fact that they still use an interface that was designed for spinners. I dunno, I’m getting 20x faster transfers on a new M1 mac to/from a T7 than I get from a 7200 spinner across anything I’ve ever experienced. I can’t really detect a DAW session load time internal versus T7 external, that’s a first here. 100GB transfers around 5 minutes. |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Nov 20, 2022 21:32:57 GMT -6
So, when I got the Mac Studio I bought an OWC 7200 RPM drive and, to be blunt, I FUCKING HATE IT. I either get random ticks, or speed failures. I had planned to get an SSD but was advised that I didn't need to spend the money. Now I wish I had. I really don't want another OWC piece. So, what I want is a fast 2TB SSD drive. I don't have sample libraries, I just record musicians, wave files at 24bit/88.2 The drive I bought with my old computer just hummed along and never gave me any problems, and still works great even with the new Mac and newer PT. Hit me with suggestions. What do you like and why? A 7200 RPM drive has no place on a new production machine unless it is as part of a NAS or as backup.. Whoever advised you is living in the 2000s...... Any M.2 should be 10-20x faster than your current HDD. Sandisk have some cheaper 2tb usbc drives |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Nov 20, 2022 21:37:55 GMT -6
If you can't get the spinner performing the way it should, then I'd skip the SSD and go directly to an M.2 enclosure. SATA HDD ~160MB/s SATA SSD ~600MB/s NVME SSD +3500MB/s I would never entertain using an HDD unless it is for a NAS. |
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