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Post by drumsound on Nov 20, 2022 21:51:07 GMT -6
That's just the enclosure. What physical drive is in it? Not all drives are created equal. Whatever they put in it... |
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Post by ab101 on Nov 20, 2022 23:40:12 GMT -6
If you can't get the spinner performing the way it should, then I'd skip the SSD and go directly to an M.2 enclosure. SSDs are speed-constrained by the fact that they still use an interface that was designed for spinners. I've got a couple of the Sonnet Echo Thunderbolt Docks (on a Mac Studio), which act both as docks and as M.2 enclosures. Although they'll work with a single M.2, I set them up as RAID-0 with pairs. I get write speeds of over 2300 MB/s and read speeds just a little faster. You'll never get anything like that speed for SSD (you'll top out at 550 or so). The rusty disks are still worth using for frequent backup. And I do concur that Samsung is the stronger choice for solid-state drives. Interesting. Maybe I could put my sample libraries in M.2s in one of these thunderbolt speed enclosures: www.amazon.com/Ankmax-Enclosure-UC4M2-Compatible-Thunderbolt/dp/B09KQBYQHM?th=1 |
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Post by drbill on Nov 21, 2022 0:02:20 GMT -6
That's just the enclosure. What physical drive is in it? Not all drives are created equal. Whatever they put in it... I never order just generic drive enclosures with un-spec'd drives. They often end up with the most lame drives available. You can buy a empty enclosure, and spec the drive you like. That's what I always do. Actually these days, I'm using a good Sabrent 4 slot toaster and filling it with high end raw SATA (7200 rpm) drives. Flawless. I wish you the best of luck. Again, can't go wrong with Samsung SS drives, other than that they are pricey. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 21, 2022 0:58:18 GMT -6
That's just the enclosure. What physical drive is in it? Not all drives are created equal. Whatever they put in it... So are you actually 100% certain it's a 7200? Sounds like it could be a 5200 which would struggle under bigger stuff. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 21, 2022 3:00:04 GMT -6
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Post by gwlee7 on Nov 21, 2022 7:39:41 GMT -6
That's just the enclosure. What physical drive is in it? Not all drives are created equal. Whatever they put in it... Glad to see another tech savvy person on the forum. 😂 |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 21, 2022 8:36:27 GMT -6
Just get it right side up and you’re golden!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 10:29:33 GMT -6
I've used their stuff. It usually works OK, but I've never really trusted them past USB. Here's the one I have: www.sonnettech.com/product/echo-dual-nvme-thunderbolt-dock/overview.htmlSonnet usually costs a bit more, but they support the heck out of their stuff and I think it's better made than most of what you'll find. I've used OWC before as well for various things, but for really high-speed stuff, I think Sonnet is the winner. Reach out to their support line with questions and I think you'll find them very helpful. FWIW, I have my sample libraries on the Sonnets and they just fly. Additional benefit is that they're a lot quieter than spinners. My last Mac Pro had to sit in another room because of all the fans. The Studio sits right beside me, along with all of my storage (excepting the spinners I use for backup, which still live in that other room). |
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Post by ab101 on Nov 21, 2022 11:01:04 GMT -6
I've used their stuff. It usually works OK, but I've never really trusted them past USB. Here's the one I have: www.sonnettech.com/product/echo-dual-nvme-thunderbolt-dock/overview.htmlSonnet usually costs a bit more, but they support the heck out of their stuff and I think it's better made than most of what you'll find. I've used OWC before as well for various things, but for really high-speed stuff, I think Sonnet is the winner. Reach out to their support line with questions and I think you'll find them very helpful. FWIW, I have my sample libraries on the Sonnets and they just fly. Additional benefit is that they're a lot quieter than spinners. My last Mac Pro had to sit in another room because of all the fans. The Studio sits right beside me, along with all of my storage (excepting the spinners I use for backup, which still live in that other room). Thank you tons! Great specs and reasonable price. |
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Post by drumsound on Nov 21, 2022 13:12:06 GMT -6
Whatever they put in it... I never order just generic drive enclosures with un-spec'd drives. They often end up with the most lame drives available. You can buy a empty enclosure, and spec the drive you like. That's what I always do. Actually these days, I'm using a good Sabrent 4 slot toaster and filling it with high end raw SATA (7200 rpm) drives. Flawless. I wish you the best of luck. Again, can't go wrong with Samsung SS drives, other than that they are pricey. That's good advice, thanks. Whatever they put in it... So are you actually 100% certain it's a 7200? Sounds like it could be a 5200 which would struggle under bigger stuff. That's what it feels like. It was ordered as a 7200, and the box and receipt show that. I guess I should open up the enclosure. I'm talking externals. Whatever they put in it... Glad to see another tech savvy person on the forum. 😂  I have no business owning a business sometimes. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 21, 2022 13:21:24 GMT -6
I understand and I have had 2 owc externals for 10 uears no problems.
Those owc ssd can be put in an older mbp mac or an enclosure which you talked about earlier.
I just wanted you to know you had fast ssd options, during bf sales you may find better prices on competitors drives but you will still need an enclosure.
At owc you can buy a turnkey solution (enclosure and drives), fully supported.
Just thought yoy might like to check their products fir speed snd price for comparison shopping?
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Post by drumsound on Nov 21, 2022 14:01:55 GMT -6
I understand and I have had 2 owc externals for 10 uears no problems. Those owc ssd can be put in an older mbp mac or an enclosure which you talked about earlier. I just wanted you to know you had fast ssd options, during bf sales you may find better prices on competitors drives but you will still need an enclosure. At owc you can buy a turnkey solution (enclosure and drives), fully supported. Just thought yoy might like to check their products fir speed snd price for comparison shopping? Gotcha. Thanks!!! |
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Post by aremos on Nov 21, 2022 14:17:15 GMT -6
Avid recommends using the same type of drive for all the external ones & not mixing SSD's w/ HD's, etc
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Post by ericn on Nov 21, 2022 14:54:38 GMT -6
I've used their stuff. It usually works OK, but I've never really trusted them past USB. Here's the one I have: www.sonnettech.com/product/echo-dual-nvme-thunderbolt-dock/overview.htmlSonnet usually costs a bit more, but they support the heck out of their stuff and I think it's better made than most of what you'll find. I've used OWC before as well for various things, but for really high-speed stuff, I think Sonnet is the winner. Reach out to their support line with questions and I think you'll find them very helpful. FWIW, I have my sample libraries on the Sonnets and they just fly. Additional benefit is that they're a lot quieter than spinners. My last Mac Pro had to sit in another room because of all the fans. The Studio sits right beside me, along with all of my storage (excepting the spinners I use for backup, which still live in that other room). In the past OWC was the Prince Sonnetech the king! Plus if you ever compared their PCIE chassis’s to Magma the savings brought tears to you eyes! |
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Post by Blackdawg on Nov 21, 2022 16:50:01 GMT -6
I never order just generic drive enclosures with un-spec'd drives. They often end up with the most lame drives available. You can buy a empty enclosure, and spec the drive you like. That's what I always do. Actually these days, I'm using a good Sabrent 4 slot toaster and filling it with high end raw SATA (7200 rpm) drives. Flawless. I wish you the best of luck. Again, can't go wrong with Samsung SS drives, other than that they are pricey. That's good advice, thanks. So are you actually 100% certain it's a 7200? Sounds like it could be a 5200 which would struggle under bigger stuff. That's what it feels like. It was ordered as a 7200, and the box and receipt show that. I guess I should open up the enclosure. I'm talking externals. Glad to see another tech savvy person on the forum. 😂 I have no business owning a business sometimes. yaaaaassss take it apart! take it apart! take it apart! curious what you find. |
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Post by ml on Nov 22, 2022 15:56:24 GMT -6
I have a Sandisk extreme portable 2TB. I keep my samples on it and also edit video directly off of it. No issues to date.
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Post by linas on Nov 29, 2022 3:50:05 GMT -6
I have the shittiest dirt cheap SATA 2TB solid state drive on the market for my sample libraries. No issues whatsoever! Yes, it can get slow if I copy more than several gigs at a time, but I do that very rarely so it's all good.
For software I use Samsung NVMe. They are amazing.
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Post by mike on Nov 29, 2022 14:24:00 GMT -6
I have a Sandisk extreme portable 2TB. I keep my samples on it and also edit video directly off of it. No issues to date.
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