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Post by prene1 on Nov 16, 2022 15:01:36 GMT -6
Didn’t see any discussion on here.
Is anyone here getting one ?
I for sure am.
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Post by seawell on Nov 16, 2022 15:17:29 GMT -6
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Post by thehightenor on Nov 16, 2022 17:29:20 GMT -6
For $600 more you can get an actual CL1B (according to the pricing at one of the dealers I buy from)
Interesting price point.
I'm personally preferred the CL1A, I wonder if this unit is closer to that sound
and how it compares to an LA2A.
I'm keen to get a demo - it might be really nice alternative to my Vari MU comps.
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Post by mike on Nov 16, 2022 17:32:16 GMT -6
Someone else doing a CL1b took longer than I thought, but maybe the huge CL1B price increase to 4k USD over the past couple years plus back order status often put allot of meat on the bone for others to undercut. I like that the Heritage Tubepressor added some nice things to their design the CL1b doesn't have, and even more that the Tubepressor retail price is 2.5k USD compared to 4k USD for a CL1b which is a pass for me...... I'll be interested to hear tubepressor clips when it's out.
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Post by robo on Nov 16, 2022 17:41:43 GMT -6
Tubepressor is an embarrassing name for something the costs $2500.
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Post by seawell on Nov 16, 2022 18:29:43 GMT -6
If they matched the sound and put some knobs on it that don’t feel so cheap like the tube tech, I’d be happy 👍🏻
By the way it’s called the “Tubesessor” which I think is an even worse name than tubepressor 🤣
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 16, 2022 18:52:22 GMT -6
I've always wished I could afford a CL1b. This seems to be an improved version at a lower cost. It's still too far from my budget, but I can dream..
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Post by robo on Nov 16, 2022 19:03:29 GMT -6
If they matched the sound and put some knobs on it that don’t feel so cheap like the tube tech, I’d be happy 👍🏻 By the way it’s called the “Tubesessor” which I think is an even worse name than tubepressor 🤣 Hahah. Yes that’s worse. Obviously some real work went into the design, so it’s extra head scratching they’d give it such a prosumer-bait name. I’m not a Heritage hater, btw, I’ve got a Successor and dig it (not a great name but less cringey). |
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Post by ab101 on Nov 16, 2022 19:28:45 GMT -6
I have the 609a - and it is awesome. I had many Cl1bs through the years and they are great, I believe through their special opto element which is over my head to discuss. (For that Tube Tech smoothness, I have also found it in the Buzz compressors, by the way, and for a whole lot less money. But I do understand that there is a certain magic, or slight pillowness that is in the CL1b that is hard to describe and makes it so valuable.)
Anyway, the 609a is not a Cl1b in any shape or form. It is very smooth though, with color. I never had a Neve 33609, so I do not know how the Heritage 609a compares to that. I had a Chandler Zener diode, and did not like it - in fact I like the Audioscape D-comp better than the Chandler Zener! And for that matter the Audioscape D-comp and Heritage 609a are also quite different. I like the Audioscape on drums better than the Heritage. But I like the Heritage better for other busses.
Back to this topic - I could have bought CL1b's again recently for about $3850. Not a bad price. But if the Heritage for over a thousand less has somehow captured the special nuance of the CL1b and has more features, then it will be great thing.
And finally, as to the Heritage Tubesessor name, if it sounds like a Cl1b, does it really matter? Maybe it was a way of combining Tube-Tech with their Successor Compressor?
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Post by deif on Nov 16, 2022 20:07:08 GMT -6
I've always wished I could afford a CL1b. This seems to be an improved version at a lower cost. It's still too far from my budget, but I can dream.. I trust BLA. The mod for My Apollo X6 was even better than I expected. BLA? Are they involved with this product? |
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 16, 2022 21:00:21 GMT -6
I've always wished I could afford a CL1b. This seems to be an improved version at a lower cost. It's still too far from my budget, but I can dream.. I trust BLA. The mod for My Apollo X6 was even better than I expected. BLA? Are they involved with this product? Nah, I think he’s just super into BLA. |
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Post by prene1 on Nov 16, 2022 22:37:10 GMT -6
The 609A is awesome.
HA and BLA worked together if I’m not mistaken on the motor city eq which I have also. Great products for the price.
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Post by ragan on Nov 17, 2022 0:28:55 GMT -6
If they matched the sound and put some knobs on it that don’t feel so cheap like the tube tech, I’d be happy 👍🏻 By the way it’s called the “Tubesessor” which I think is an even worse name than tubepressor 🤣 Oh no, you're right! That is really tough. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 17, 2022 1:23:12 GMT -6
My mistake, I was just posting about my BLA Apollo upgrade and simply confused it with Heritage. I was distracted and typing too fast today.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 17, 2022 1:54:32 GMT -6
I got a message from someone involved that they thought this was one of the best things they’d done. I don’t doubt it. Looks great. I am flat out not paying the prices that Tube Tech is up charging. They inflated way before inflation was cool. Heritage has done some really great stuff though I’ve not tried any of their comps.
I’ve tried a cl1b on vox only twice and just thought it was prettt transparent. At the time I didn’t really want that…but now I’m finding myself wanting that. Def want to hear this.
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Post by thehightenor on Nov 17, 2022 2:45:09 GMT -6
I got a message from someone involved that they thought this was one of the best things they’d done. I don’t doubt it. Looks great. I am flat out not paying the prices that Tube Tech is up charging. They inflated way before inflation was cool. Heritage has done some really great stuff though I’ve not tried any of their comps. I’ve tried a cl1b on vox only twice and just thought it was prettt transparent. At the time I didn’t really want that…but now I’m finding myself wanting that. Def want to hear this. Do I conclude from your statement above John your Retro STA Levels days are over! I literally bought a STA Level for my tenor voice after your rave reviews - which I still to this day think were justified - I love tracking with he Retro STA Level and Coil CA-70 (amazing combo) Is this new desire for cleaner compression for your own vocals or for recording clients vocals and are those female vocals? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 17, 2022 8:53:53 GMT -6
I’m still using an AS V-Comp
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Post by tkaitkai on Nov 17, 2022 11:17:12 GMT -6
Yeah, that's a real unfortunate name for such a cool piece of gear.
But I can also think of some other stuff that's even worse. Sonic Farm's "Creamer" has always made my skin crawl. And it's not a name, but there's also that one super high end mastering EQ that looks like it was drawn with a crayon. Can't remember what it's called.
Anyway, I don't mean to diss anyone's hard work. This stuff all sounds amazing, no doubt. A more affordable CL1B is actually very tempting.
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Post by recordingengineer on Nov 17, 2022 11:27:04 GMT -6
You’re thinking of Terry Audio.
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Post by thehightenor on Nov 17, 2022 11:45:36 GMT -6
Yeah, that's a real unfortunate name for such a cool piece of gear. But I can also think of some other stuff that's even worse. Sonic Farm's "Creamer" has always made my skin crawl. And it's not a name, but there's also that one super high end mastering EQ that looks like it was drawn with a crayon. Can't remember what it's called. Anyway, I don't mean to diss anyone's hard work. This stuff all sounds amazing, no doubt. A more affordable CL1B is actually very tempting. My budget these days for new gear is very limited so a new LA2A or CL1B is off the cards. It’s a toss up between this new Heritage Opto comp or an AS opto (which would be half the price!) |
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Post by robo on Nov 17, 2022 12:01:11 GMT -6
I got a message from someone involved that they thought this was one of the best things they’d done. I don’t doubt it. Looks great. I am flat out not paying the prices that Tube Tech is up charging. They inflated way before inflation was cool. Heritage has done some really great stuff though I’ve not tried any of their comps. I’ve tried a cl1b on vox only twice and just thought it was prettt transparent. At the time I didn’t really want that…but now I’m finding myself wanting that. Def want to hear this. Someone already mentioned the Buzz compressors in this thread. From my brief experience and online examples they are the ones to beat for clean/flexible optical compression. Slightly more mojo can be had in the APA Leviathan (designed by same guy), which I use for most vocal tracking. The JLM LA500 is also amazing. That one’s got a dark weight and the Leviathan has a bit of a hifi lift to it. Ive also got a modded Pro VLAII which is good for more colorful squishing. I could sell all of those and buy a single Tubesessor, but that seems silly. Not trying to dissuade you, as I’m sure this is a good comp. Just tossing out some more affordable options  |
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Post by tkaitkai on Nov 17, 2022 12:02:52 GMT -6
You’re thinking of Terry Audio. YES. Thank you, it was driving me crazy, haha. |
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Post by ab101 on Nov 17, 2022 13:11:07 GMT -6
I got a message from someone involved that they thought this was one of the best things they’d done. I don’t doubt it. Looks great. I am flat out not paying the prices that Tube Tech is up charging. They inflated way before inflation was cool. Heritage has done some really great stuff though I’ve not tried any of their comps. I’ve tried a cl1b on vox only twice and just thought it was prettt transparent. At the time I didn’t really want that…but now I’m finding myself wanting that. Def want to hear this. Someone already mentioned the Buzz compressors in this thread. From my brief experience and online examples they are the ones to beat for clean/flexible optical compression. Slightly more mojo can be had in the APA Leviathan (designed by same guy), which I use for most vocal tracking. The JLM LA500 is also amazing. That one’s got a dark weight and the Leviathan has a bit of a hifi lift to it. Ive also got a modded Pro VLAII which is good for more colorful squishing. I could sell all of those and buy a single Tubesessor, but that seems silly. Not trying to dissuade you, as I’m sure this is a good comp. Just tossing out some more affordable options The Buzz guy may have been me. I had a CL1b and I had a Buzz essence 500 unit. It was amazing how smooth the Buzz was and so close to the tube tech! I now use a Buzz Velox for that tube tech type use. (I also have used both versions of the Buzz Soc optos, the Buzz DBC20 diode, and the APA Leviathans. The APA Leviathans are amazing with so many features in a 500 unit. Nathan (Atlas) usually has a sale on these APA units around Black Friday. The thing about all the Buzz units, is that it is very difficult to do harm and very easy to dial in smooth compression on the clean side while not being clinical (whatever that means:). |
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Post by seawell on Nov 17, 2022 13:25:16 GMT -6
I got a message from someone involved that they thought this was one of the best things they’d done. I don’t doubt it. Looks great. I am flat out not paying the prices that Tube Tech is up charging. They inflated way before inflation was cool. Heritage has done some really great stuff though I’ve not tried any of their comps. I’ve tried a cl1b on vox only twice and just thought it was prettt transparent. At the time I didn’t really want that…but now I’m finding myself wanting that. Def want to hear this. Do I conclude from your statement above John your Retro STA Levels days are over! I literally bought a STA Level for my tenor voice after your rave reviews - which I still to this day think were justified - I love tracking with he Retro STA Level and Coil CA-70 (amazing combo) Is this new desire for cleaner compression for your own vocals or for recording clients vocals and are those female vocals? Sometimes we think we're done with the Sta Level, only to later realize the Sta Level isn't quite done with us 🤣 |
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Post by thehightenor on Nov 17, 2022 14:38:09 GMT -6
Do I conclude from your statement above John your Retro STA Levels days are over! I literally bought a STA Level for my tenor voice after your rave reviews - which I still to this day think were justified - I love tracking with he Retro STA Level and Coil CA-70 (amazing combo) Is this new desire for cleaner compression for your own vocals or for recording clients vocals and are those female vocals? Sometimes we think we're done with the Sta Level, only to later realize the Sta Level isn't quite done with us 🤣 Actually, I'm finding my Thermionic Phoenix MP is giving my Retro STA a run for it's money tracking my tenor vocals and bass. I do love Vari MU compression. That said, I'd love an alternative opto compressor to the one in my Millennia STT-1 which is a bit underwhelming. |
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