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Post by keymod on Sept 18, 2022 8:38:58 GMT -6
So, everyone wants a 47, 67, 87, 84, etc.. ,
but what other Neumann mics are you wishing you have? Anyone using an 89, for instance?
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Post by EmRR on Sept 18, 2022 9:03:11 GMT -6
Love to have an 89
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Post by Omicron9 on Sept 18, 2022 9:40:06 GMT -6
SM-2 for me. Oh my yes.
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Post by Ward on Sept 18, 2022 10:04:07 GMT -6
So, everyone wants a 47, 67, 87, 84, etc.. , but what other Neumann mics are you wishing you have? Anyone using an 89, for instance? I have three U89s. And about to grab a fourth. My absolute favorite for Soprano, lyric tenor voices and tom-tom captures. For a more dramatic tenor, the (Neumann) Gefell M930 is a slightly better choice but they can each supplant the other. LOVE U89s!! And yeah, I would also love a SM2 or SM69 (tube or FET) |
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Post by Omicron9 on Sept 18, 2022 10:10:45 GMT -6
So, everyone wants a 47, 67, 87, 84, etc.. , but what other Neumann mics are you wishing you have? Anyone using an 89, for instance? I have three U89s. And about to grab a fourth. My absolute favorite for Soprano, lyric tenor voices and tom-tom captures. For a more dramatic tenor, the (Neumann) Gefell M930 is a slightly better choice but they can each supplant the other. LOVE U89s!! And yeah, I would also love a SM2 or SM69 (tube or FET) A very big +1 on the wonders of the Gefell M-930. So very underrated. So very wonderful. -09 |
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Post by ab101 on Sept 18, 2022 10:20:07 GMT -6
I would like to have a pair of TLM 170s. Not incredibly super fantastic, but a good all around mic.
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Post by ericn on Sept 18, 2022 10:46:26 GMT -6
The TLM170 and u89 get grief because they are so different from the 87, 47, 49. These a are tools for different purposes it’s like saying a circular saw isn’t as good as a Sawzal. They both have specific uses.
At this point any mic with the Neumann name on it is priced way above sleeper range.
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 18, 2022 10:52:38 GMT -6
TLM170 and TLM67 are awesome IMO.
The 89 is also nice but very specific I think to what you're recording. Can be a bit dark on some sources.
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Post by crillemannen on Sept 18, 2022 10:54:08 GMT -6
There are no sleepers!
Maybe some that are less known because they're rare. Like the M269 which is the best vintage Neumann, should be worth as much the U47, or more... Haha! I'm actually thinking of selling mine 😎✌️
Otherwise the Km86 is excellent and is truly a multipurpose mic. Otherwise people tend to hype up mics that are rare like an add I saw for the Km74 saying it was far Superior to any mic in the km line-up. I've used one and it's pretty much the same as the other ones in the Km-series. Sure small differences but nothing that will justify x2 the price of a km84.
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 18, 2022 11:01:51 GMT -6
m269's are bad ass.
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Post by drbill on Sept 18, 2022 11:03:18 GMT -6
The First Rule Of Neuman Afficianados Is: You Do Not Talk About Neumann. The Second Rule Of Neuman Afficianados Is: You Do Not Talk About Neumann. We can end this thread now, right?  |
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Post by timcampbell on Sept 18, 2022 11:35:14 GMT -6
Well if you like the TLM170 you can have a cardioid only version cheap in a used TLM193. If you can find a properly working UM57 they can sound nice. I would take an M269 over a U67 any day.
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Post by chessparov on Sept 18, 2022 12:27:53 GMT -6
Mostly agree Tim. But... Just can't get Justin's w/Moody's/Elton's/Daltrey's Classic lead 60's/70's vocals out of my head! All done on a 67. BTW my job application at Neumann just got accepted! I'm now one of only 4 people in the world, who can make the upcoming (secret) Reissue of a stone cold icon. It's so secret, I don't even know what I'm doing! (Cues "Act Naturally"/Buck Owens & Don Rich) Chris |
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Post by bchurch on Sept 18, 2022 12:31:02 GMT -6
The TLM103 has become like the Nickelback of Neumanns (Nickelmann? Neuback?) but I gotta say, I always find a good use for it. You just need to match it to the right preamp. Going solid state to solid state does not yield good results. I've tried it through a John Hardy and a Grace and it was just shrill and brittle up top. But de-essing took the presence away. NOW, running through my AML ez Langevin clone was all butter and boom. Tried it about 12" off the resonant kick head and it sounded great.
Horses for courses, as they say.
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Post by chessparov on Sept 18, 2022 12:34:50 GMT -6
Doubles as survival tool too... If you capsize and are set adrift. And have no flares handy! (But please wear included safety goggles) Rumored to scare off Beyers too. BTW I really like them for VO. My AKG 200 Perception has similar challenges, but can still be Processed to sound good. Not quite as refined as the 103, as to be expected. Chris |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2022 12:40:10 GMT -6
I'd say the TLM-170 / 193 / U89 are probably the best mic's Neumann make today but in a way they're also the most expensive mic's they make. By itself the 89 etc. is just boring, although if you slam it through a tube or transformer pre-amp and a mojo compressor like a 2A or even a Neve bridge diode then sprinkle in some inductor EQ for the top it can sound amazing. One of the best vocal recordings I've ever heard period was made with a TLM-170 so they can sound good. To wrap up I'd consider them "blank canvas" mic's, infinitely variable and in terms of quality they stack up to anything else out there but you need some decent equipment to coax them. I wouldn't go direct to interface with one.. |
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Post by chessparov on Sept 18, 2022 12:43:26 GMT -6
Songs From The Big Chair, were all TLM 170, on lead vocals... Stunning. I like "Boring" a lot too! Chris |
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Post by rob61 on Sept 18, 2022 14:59:43 GMT -6
My TLM-170s get used quite a bit.
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Post by ericn on Sept 18, 2022 15:55:07 GMT -6
I'd say the TLM-170 / 193 / U89 are probably the best mic's Neumann make today but in a way they're also the most expensive mic's they make. By itself the 89 etc. is just boring, although if you slam it through a tube or transformer pre-amp and a mojo compressor like a 2A or even a Neve bridge diode then sprinkle in some inductor EQ for the top it can sound amazing. One of the best vocal recordings I've ever heard period was made with a TLM-170 so they can sound good. To wrap up I'd consider them "blank canvas" mic's, infinitely variable and in terms of quality they stack up to anything else out there but you need some decent equipment to coax them. I wouldn't go direct to interface with one.. I prefer transparent, less hyped or less charismatic but boring works, sometimes boring is perfect. |
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Post by spindrift on Sept 18, 2022 16:55:07 GMT -6
Sleepers? TLM170s, U89s, TLM67s. You like the sound of Buena Vista Social club? The main sound is a pair of 170s in omni high in the air in that Havana studio.
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Post by ab101 on Sept 18, 2022 17:56:25 GMT -6
DPAs (like 4011s) and TLM 170s can be boring. But if you have a rich steinway piano, for example, sometimes a boring mic is important, to capture it just as it is without any more embellishment, which embellishment could make it too rich. Boring was also great into tape. Now with so many euphonic pres and compressors, boring mics are very useful. My 2 cents - I suppose because I am bored! |
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Post by Vincent R. on Sept 18, 2022 18:02:43 GMT -6
I’m really enjoying my TLM49 for background vocals. It has a 49 quality, but is a touch thinner and has more focus, giving me great BG vocals that stack well, and allow my FleA 49 to stand out on leads. I really wish it was multi-pattern though. I also thought he TLM67 was a really nice mic. It’s not a U67 or a U87, but that’s ok. Both of these are not exactly like their namesake, but can compliment them.
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Post by chessparov on Sept 18, 2022 18:28:02 GMT -6
Including Max Mod! IMHO the TLM 102 qualifies as a Sleeper. BGV's and occasional Lead. Chris |
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Post by ericn on Sept 19, 2022 10:04:57 GMT -6
Would love to have a KU-100, M50 pair, SM-2. That'll all get you a 3d mess of a sound...But maybe those aren't true sleepers. I quite liked the TLM49. The M582 is a great all-arounder. At current market prices the M50 pair in no way qualify as sleepers😎 |
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Post by woofhead on Sept 19, 2022 10:14:16 GMT -6
tlm 127 is an interesting one....I believe its a multipattern tlm 103 but Ive never compared them side by side. I want to try it out with more colored pres at some point as Shadow is suggesting
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