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Post by notneeson on Jun 15, 2022 11:56:51 GMT -6
To that point, did anyone here like the Bomb Factory 1176? I used it on MacOS8 and 9 before AVID bought it. Back on topic, I find the Sonnox Oxford Suppressor useful. I had the BF 1176 on PT10 and I didn't think it was anything special. I did the first few months on PT using only stock plugins, and compression was the first thing I outsourced. Plugin Alliance Purple is soooo much better and you can get it for like $20 if you hit the sales.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 15, 2022 12:31:01 GMT -6
Just a mention. Waves Sibilance is really good. John has immaculate taste. Sibilance is really nice, has "character" whatever the hell that means, I use it all the time on my vocals. The controls are a bit hard to grok but eventually you can almost grasp what the hell they are actually doing. I think this one is actually an "ess re-synthesizer" whatever that means, not just an, eh, quick fader. For a "pure and clean" no-trace, no-event de-esser the free Techivation De-Esser is one of the best I've heard. Totally free, and it actually works. They try to sell you an expensive "upgrade" with features not related to essing. kind of insane. But you can support them. In mastering, non-vocal sources, it could be any number of alternate plugins, this answer, this post, is voice-centric (Greg Wells can eat a black banana.)
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Post by Guitar on Jun 15, 2022 12:34:45 GMT -6
So is Fabrice done at Slate? Is he out? Slate used to talk about how the Eiosis DeEsser was the best on the planet, how you would never need another ever again, etc., etc., etc. Yet here he is releasing another DeEsser. Hmmm. They’re running out of shit to emulate. Brainworx is doing made up AMEK gear. The Fuse Tascam 688 channel strip happened and then Ik had to get in on it with bad convolution plugs. Alesis 3630 plug from waves coming with noise included when? SSL now sells hardware to control the emulation of the hardware… SSL is the sound of hits. SSL was used by. Alesis 3630 is French House Fame. Tascam was used by. AMEK is a bunch of bullshit nobody can even remember. You can be famous, too, Dan! Just hand over the money, and the rest will take care of itself. :-D
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Post by donr on Jun 15, 2022 21:53:50 GMT -6
Bomb Factory was one of the first third party plugins as I remember. Software has come a long way since then, and I couldn't use them after OS9, but I still have the license on my iLok.
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Post by drumsound on Jun 16, 2022 12:46:24 GMT -6
FYI the Waves sale is over in 14 hours. (posted Thursday, June 16 1:45 PM Central Time)
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Post by Guitar on Jun 16, 2022 13:10:51 GMT -6
The Waves sale is never over, lol!
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Post by drumsound on Jun 16, 2022 14:25:26 GMT -6
The Waves sale is never over, lol! Fair enough.
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Post by drumsound on Jul 22, 2022 11:03:22 GMT -6
Just a mention. Waves Sibilance is really good. I bought this because it was 29 buck, and it's worked really well a couple times recently. Thanks John.
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Post by seawell on Jul 22, 2022 11:13:50 GMT -6
Anyone here using the McDSP De-Esser?
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Post by notneeson on Jul 22, 2022 17:41:49 GMT -6
Just a mention. Waves Sibilance is really good. I bought this because it was 29 buck, and it's worked really well a couple times recently. Thanks John. Same experience, same gratitude, thanks John.
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Post by OtisGreying on Jul 22, 2022 20:34:34 GMT -6
How does it compare to the Waves DeEsser? They are both on sale for 29 bucks They're totally different. The old Waves DeEsser and Renaissance DeEsser really aren’t bad for totally obliterating the top and making an “ess” into a greatly diminished “ephth.” And sometimes that actually might be what one is looking for, even though it’s heavy-handed. Waves Sibilance, OTOH, can be *very* transparent. I love how it handles things, and I don’t find it difficult to use at all. I still hate Waves and Waves’s WUP system, though. That thing is still a bad deal. But Sibilance is dang good. Between it and the new Clarity plugins, it makes me think Waves has hired some new coders or something. I find the waves desser actually handles the de-essing around 2,3 and 4K better than my Pro DS lately. I feel the pro Ds shines sort of above 5k+ Could just be me though
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Post by the other mark williams on Jul 23, 2022 13:49:13 GMT -6
They're totally different. The old Waves DeEsser and Renaissance DeEsser really aren’t bad for totally obliterating the top and making an “ess” into a greatly diminished “ephth.” And sometimes that actually might be what one is looking for, even though it’s heavy-handed. Waves Sibilance, OTOH, can be *very* transparent. I love how it handles things, and I don’t find it difficult to use at all. I still hate Waves and Waves’s WUP system, though. That thing is still a bad deal. But Sibilance is dang good. Between it and the new Clarity plugins, it makes me think Waves has hired some new coders or something. I find the waves desser actually handles the de-essing around 2,3 and 4K better than my Pro DS lately. I feel the pro Ds shines sort of above 5k+ Could just be me though Which Waves Deesser are you talking about here, OtisGreying? Original, Renaissance, or Sibilance?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2022 15:02:06 GMT -6
I find the waves desser actually handles the de-essing around 2,3 and 4K better than my Pro DS lately. I feel the pro Ds shines sort of above 5k+ Could just be me though Which Waves Deesser are you talking about here, OtisGreying? Original, Renaissance, or Sibilance? Or Waves BSS DPR-402 the best Waves plugin 😎
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Post by the other mark williams on Jul 23, 2022 15:12:49 GMT -6
Which Waves Deesser are you talking about here, OtisGreying ? Original, Renaissance, or Sibilance? Or Waves BSS DPR-402 the best Waves plugin 😎 I'd never even heard of that one. Though it reminded me there's also a Deesser in that Scheps Channel Strip thing (actually, two deessers) that worked well back when I demoed it (when it came out).
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Post by Guitar on Jul 24, 2022 7:24:51 GMT -6
That Scheps thing is pretty cool indeed. Never heard of the BSS one either, wow!
I got the, eh, Lindell "DBX 900 series" de esser from plugin alliance and used it once or twice I think.
In my opinion it's better than the hardware. I had two of those 500 series de-essers and I couldn't get them to behave for the life of me, terrible. Cool "box tone" though. Maybe the old ones are better. Don't care enough to care.
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Post by OtisGreying on Jul 25, 2022 2:38:46 GMT -6
I find the waves desser actually handles the de-essing around 2,3 and 4K better than my Pro DS lately. I feel the pro Ds shines sort of above 5k+ Could just be me though Which Waves Deesser are you talking about here, OtisGreying ? Original, Renaissance, or Sibilance? The original. I'm curious to try the others from waves too though. Pro DS seems to just not really tame that midrange 2k-4k ish trashy sibilance to my ear
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Post by ericn on Jul 25, 2022 5:16:00 GMT -6
Bomb Factory was one of the first third party plugins as I remember. Software has come a long way since then, and I couldn't use them after OS9, but I still have the license on my iLok. Bomb factory was also one of the first victims of AVIDS let’s buy everything we can buisness model, it was right around the time UAD dropped their support of TDM and went proprietary DSP.
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