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Post by seawell on Jan 31, 2022 19:58:46 GMT -6
Yes, I’m certainly not implying that anything I do in my day job has led me to believe that any of my thoughts on this as expressed above are those of clients or are in any way eminent. My point was that under a true free market system, which does not exist, market forces would attempt to correct the behavior of the unvaccinated. I think there is zero chance hospitals will or could deny coverage to the unvaccinated. However, I think down the road we could see health insurance companies attempt to exclude coverage for the unvaccinated. Hopefully, folks will get the vaccine and it won’t come to that. Ah ok, I get what ericn was saying now. You're a lawyer. What type of law do you practice? |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jan 31, 2022 19:59:21 GMT -6
Yes, I’m certainly not implying that anything I do in my day job has led me to believe that any of my thoughts on this as expressed above are those of clients or are in any way eminent. My point was that under a true free market system, which does not exist, market forces would attempt to correct the behavior of the unvaccinated. I think there is zero chance hospitals will or could deny coverage to the unvaccinated. However, I think down the road we could see health insurance companies attempt to exclude coverage for the unvaccinated. Hopefully, folks will get the vaccine and it won’t come to that. Wouldn’t a better outcome be “folks won’t need the vaccine?” I feel like we’ve moved from a societal goal of overcoming the pandemic and shifted to a societal goal of convincing everybody to take the same drug. It’s kind of subtle but when did that happen? |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 31, 2022 20:18:56 GMT -6
I for one have lost track of whether this is a communist nanny state takeover or a craven capitalist money-grab. Communist nanny state takeover |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 31, 2022 20:23:38 GMT -6
Come on dude…out of all the crazy shit that’s been said here this takes the cake! Nope. That would be the post where you said you are unvaccinated. We really should get back to audio stuff. Between this thread and the COVID vaccine thread, this place is becoming a shit show. I really don't know how to respond to this. I can tell you this, I don't appreciate it. As for your take on "free market" insurance companies and hospitals refusing treatment of the unvaccinated, maybe they should refuse treatment of smokers, drinkers, people who eat sugar, people that have stressful jobs...the list continues. Just a completely ridiculous premise. |
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Post by ericn on Jan 31, 2022 20:24:40 GMT -6
Yes, I’m certainly not implying that anything I do in my day job has led me to believe that any of my thoughts on this as expressed above are those of clients or are in any way eminent. My point was that under a true free market system, which does not exist, market forces would attempt to correct the behavior of the unvaccinated. I think there is zero chance hospitals will or could deny coverage to the unvaccinated. However, I think down the road we could see health insurance companies attempt to exclude coverage for the unvaccinated. Hopefully, folks will get the vaccine and it won’t come to that. Not so fast, there in a way they already have, the unvaccinated who were denied a place on the transplant list. Now we discussing this over dinner and if the situation got bad enough it could be a factor in triage. I’ll give an example and where our conversation started, let’s say my son and I both were in need of vents and there was one left. It would go to the kid because of all my underlying conditions there would be no argument, he is much more likely to survive. It’s something I had to grow to understand, the simple fact that if there had been more victims I would have fallen into the “ make him as comfortable as we can but we don’t have the resources to save them all. Every mass casualty plan calls for triage that prioritizes those more likely to live, nobody wants to go there, but the fact is those vaccinated at this point in time do have a better chance. Don’t know how it would factor, or how much weight it would carry. The scary thing is the way this has gone so far is at this time it will probably play out in the rural areas first because of lack of equipment and staff, plus priority for transport to larger institutions. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 31, 2022 20:26:49 GMT -6
Get your shots in people, this thread locks in an hour.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jan 31, 2022 20:29:25 GMT -6
Yes, I’m certainly not implying that anything I do in my day job has led me to believe that any of my thoughts on this as expressed above are those of clients or are in any way eminent. My point was that under a true free market system, which does not exist, market forces would attempt to correct the behavior of the unvaccinated. I think there is zero chance hospitals will or could deny coverage to the unvaccinated. However, I think down the road we could see health insurance companies attempt to exclude coverage for the unvaccinated. Hopefully, folks will get the vaccine and it won’t come to that. Wouldn’t a better outcome be “folks won’t need the vaccine?” I feel like we’ve moved from a societal goal of overcoming the pandemic and shifted to a societal goal of convincing everybody to take the same drug. It’s kind of subtle but when did that happen? Well said, gravesnumber9. |
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Post by ericn on Jan 31, 2022 20:33:58 GMT -6
I for one have lost track of whether this is a communist nanny state takeover or a craven capitalist money-grab. Communist nanny state takeover Capitalist money grab, communism isn’t about social issues it’s defined by an economic system where the government has total control of the means of production. We handed healthcare to the government 90 years ago. The communism is the government saying we need to have chips made here so we are going to build a plant that we the government will then say what and when certain chips get built there. We are neither Freemarket, socialist nor Communist, again all are about control of the means of production, we Russia China France and pretty much else are a mixed economy, we just lean more towards free market/ socialism ( all those tax deals, subsidies etc). |
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Post by Quint on Jan 31, 2022 20:47:07 GMT -6
Get your shots in people, this thread locks in an hour. I've purposefully stayed out of this thread until now. The original Covid Vaccine thread was enough for me.   Oh, and Neil Young is the man. |
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Post by seawell on Jan 31, 2022 20:56:07 GMT -6
If this ain't the proper ending for this thread then I don't know what is  |
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