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Post by ericn on Oct 11, 2023 14:14:23 GMT -6
Lee if you are interested in a non Genelec Sub option The SVS 3000 series has worked well with Everything from ATC, Quested, KRK and Radian.
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Post by lee on Oct 11, 2023 16:04:36 GMT -6
Lee if you are interested in a non Genelec Sub option The SVS 3000 series has worked well with Everything from ATC, Quested, KRK and Radian. I've bookmarked this. Thanks, good to know, and budget wise might help me out. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Oct 11, 2023 16:15:45 GMT -6
Unless you want to really use GLM. Then you really should get the Genelec sub. It'll do phase alignment as well as do the management how you want it to.
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Post by RealNoob on Oct 11, 2023 19:45:58 GMT -6
I have the 8330A's with GLM. It took me a long time to come to grips with what they are and what they do. I there are things I like and things I hate. I like that they have amazing bottom end. I could mix with them quietly, really close up and hear it all. I love that they are portable. What I don't like is that no matter what I try, I can't resolve their mid-forward sound like slightly turning up the treble with the presence (above) kept down. Reminds of what Yamaha's what to be.
I just redid my desk and set so I need to measure again. i would love to be pleasantly surprised this time - crossing fingers.
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Post by lee on Oct 11, 2023 20:00:59 GMT -6
Unless you want to really use GLM. Then you really should get the Genelec sub. It'll do phase alignment as well as do the management how you want it to. Yep, I’m keeping that in mind, the system will work better if integrated. |
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Post by lee on Dec 7, 2023 15:54:14 GMT -6
Is anyone with the Ones using the AES inputs? How are the DACs?
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 8, 2023 1:09:36 GMT -6
Is anyone with the Ones using the AES inputs? How are the DACs? Yes that's how my 8351b's and a's are setup. And my 8240's as well. I have no complaints at all. |
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Post by lee on Dec 8, 2023 1:30:46 GMT -6
OK I'll try both and do a listening test when they get here. I ordered a pair of 8341a.
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 8, 2023 2:14:07 GMT -6
OK I'll try both and do a listening test when they get here. I ordered a pair of 8341a. awesome! I think it's a bit of an advantage really, then you don't have to shop for some DA all the time. It just works. |
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Post by askomiko on Dec 9, 2023 7:08:28 GMT -6
I went slightly mad and got the biggest Ones, 8361, for living room TV. A slight overkill.
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Post by lee on Dec 10, 2023 16:21:25 GMT -6
I went slightly mad and got the biggest Ones, 8361, for living room TV. A slight overkill. Not a small expense. I loved the 8361s. My 8341s are just right for my needs, and they really punch way above their weight. I only wish they made more of an effort to correct the quarter wave reflection. It's really bad in one of mine (and with every speaker that has sat in that spot). GRADE sent a thoughtful email about correcting it with other means. |
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Post by askomiko on Dec 11, 2023 14:31:14 GMT -6
You mean a very deep null?
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Post by lee on Dec 11, 2023 17:59:58 GMT -6
You mean a very deep null? Yes, like -20dB or more around 90Hz. There is an asymmetry in the room so there must be an unfortunate series of reflections I need to solve with treatment, or move the position. Easier said than done though. It's not a permanent work space though, so I may just put up with it for a bit till I can move my stuff to the new location. But I have seen Trinnovs go after these nulls and really try to correct them, I guess at the expense of making your woofers work REALLY hard. |
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Post by dok on Dec 11, 2023 22:23:00 GMT -6
You mean a very deep null? Yes, like -20dB or more around 90Hz. There is an asymmetry in the room so there must be an unfortunate series of reflections I need to solve with treatment, or move the position. Easier said than done though. It's not a permanent work space though, so I may just put up with it for a bit till I can move my stuff to the new location. But I have seen Trinnovs go after these nulls and really try to correct them, I guess at the expense of making your woofers work REALLY hard. You need a subwoofer. www.soundonsound.com/techniques/elephant-control-room |
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Post by lee on Dec 11, 2023 23:38:22 GMT -6
Yes, like -20dB or more around 90Hz. There is an asymmetry in the room so there must be an unfortunate series of reflections I need to solve with treatment, or move the position. Easier said than done though. It's not a permanent work space though, so I may just put up with it for a bit till I can move my stuff to the new location. But I have seen Trinnovs go after these nulls and really try to correct them, I guess at the expense of making your woofers work REALLY hard. You need a subwoofer. www.soundonsound.com/techniques/elephant-control-roomYes, I've thought about that. Might be the next step. |
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Post by askomiko on Dec 12, 2023 14:13:21 GMT -6
Boosting a deep sharp null is not a good idea at all.
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Post by lee on Dec 12, 2023 14:23:36 GMT -6
Boosting a deep sharp null is not a good idea at all. No, a sub is a better choice. The 7360 is not a bad price and will be SAM integrated. |
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Post by Ward on Dec 13, 2023 7:47:28 GMT -6
It's probably just me, but any thing I've done on Genelecs ends up sounding disappointing once it leaves the studio. Is It because they're too pretty sounding, or maybe difficult to make bad sounding tracks and mixes on? It's probably only me. Ward have you heard this series? I agree with you across the board, and I have years of experience on those, but for the Ones, I think the opposite is true. I have not tried them yet, and I am totally open to changing my mind! Else, I'd still be married to the first wife. |
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Post by lee on Dec 13, 2023 13:13:41 GMT -6
Ward have you heard this series? I agree with you across the board, and I have years of experience on those, but for the Ones, I think the opposite is true. I have not tried them yet, and I am totally open to changing my mind! Else, I'd still be married to the first wife. They were good enough to completely turn around my opinion of the brand. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 14, 2023 0:24:41 GMT -6
I've got some 8381a on the way for the studio I work at. So that's awesome.
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Post by lee on Dec 14, 2023 15:33:48 GMT -6
I've got some 8381a on the way for the studio I work at. So that's awesome. those things look completely insane. Congrats! |
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 15, 2023 2:09:16 GMT -6
I've got some 8381a on the way for the studio I work at. So that's awesome. those things look completely insane. Congrats! Yeah I think we are the only place that has ordered them. they sounded great at AES. Should be fun to work on. |
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Post by lee on Dec 18, 2023 18:31:26 GMT -6
Hey Genelec GLM users, riddle me this: I switched over to AES/EBU over the weekend. Trouble is, it seems like the first speaker you plug into takes AES channel 01 (A) and if you go out the AES THRU output XLR, the second speaker takes AES channel 02 (B). Due to where my interface is located, on the right hand side of me, I have enough length to go into the RIGHT speaker first, then out to the LEFT speaker, but GLM doesn't appear to let you change the allocation of which side of the AES cable you can use.
I notice there are DIP switches for this, but that is when you aren't running GLM, and I use the volume knob so I'm using it all day.
Is there any other way to tell the speakers which channels to use without having to make a long cable? I think I'm out of 3080 at this point.
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 19, 2023 23:15:42 GMT -6
Hey Genelec GLM users, riddle me this: I switched over to AES/EBU over the weekend. Trouble is, it seems like the first speaker you plug into takes AES channel 01 (A) and if you go out the AES THRU output XLR, the second speaker takes AES channel 02 (B). Due to where my interface is located, on the right hand side of me, I have enough length to go into the RIGHT speaker first, then out to the LEFT speaker, but GLM doesn't appear to let you change the allocation of which side of the AES cable you can use. I notice there are DIP switches for this, but that is when you aren't running GLM, and I use the volume knob so I'm using it all day. Is there any other way to tell the speakers which channels to use without having to make a long cable? I think I'm out of 3080 at this point. hmm I thought you could just designate whatever speaker you wanted to be which ever one you wanted. That's part of the setup phase. You place them in the grid where they are and identify them as to what they should be. Also thought the dip switches worked no matter what. I'd at least try that. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2023 9:51:08 GMT -6
I've got some 8381a on the way for the studio I work at. So that's awesome. Oh, my word. Now that is what I call a monitor, they weigh 152KG's each and start at 20Hz.. That's insane.
It peaked my interest straight away so I looked at the price and after a loose conversion they're, urr $76000.!!  |
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