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Post by gwlee7 on Oct 17, 2021 6:49:17 GMT -6
What is about them that makes them so indispensable for OH and Room mic use? And, do they add much weight to the sound capture? I know with loads of headroom comes a lot less (to no) crunch which is why I don't see them commonly used on kick and snare. But YMMV . . . and I'm genuinely interested in others' experiences and opinions here! The depth and definition. I typically use a single OH with the Daking and it’s an incredibly realistic image of the whole kit. Natural mids mean the cymbals aren’t hyped out, the snare is weighty and the toms sound woody and also get you in the gut…here’s a track with the Daking on OH, going into the Daking 500 comp barely touching it These guys are pretty cool. Things We Left Behind immediately got added to my massive playlist. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 17, 2021 7:09:20 GMT -6
Yup, definitely a Daking accolade here now, gee,, someone’s selling a console for only $35k us, hmmmm !  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 17, 2021 7:10:19 GMT -6
Yup, definitely a Daking accolade here now, gee,, someone’s selling a console for only $35k us, hmmmm ! |
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Post by Ward on Oct 17, 2021 8:27:26 GMT -6
Yup, definitely a Daking accolade here now, gee,, someone’s selling a console for only $35k us, hmmmm ! The language police say . . . Acolyte. (a follower, a true believer) And, accolade means praise. Sorry . . . I had to.  |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 17, 2021 9:32:44 GMT -6
Ah my post is praise ? |
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Post by chewmacca on Oct 17, 2021 13:03:50 GMT -6
Hi all… first post.
Big Daking pre fan myself. I like both versions with and without transformers. I have a big selection of outboard pres, but I always lean on the Daking if I’m not sure. It sounds great with drums, vocals, synths through the instrument inputs. I use the hi pass filter a lot as well. Clean, but not sterile. I would really like to check out their console someday.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 17, 2021 13:49:43 GMT -6
Welcome. The ii has Jenson input transformers, the iiT: input and output .
I bet the Daking console sounds killer.
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Post by bossanova on Oct 17, 2021 18:41:10 GMT -6
If one was trying to choose for an all rounder Pre for 87 vocals,DI mono synths, bass, etc…would you pick Daking over a Hardy-style pre?
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 18, 2021 1:28:46 GMT -6
I haven’t tried the Hardy m1, but think it would be cleaner.
Yesterday, I di’d my squire p bass into Daking and WA76d, best bass sound here ever. So far, I’ve done Vox, acoustic and electric guitars and bass, others have commented on drum applications.
I definitely think the Daking checks the all rounder box.
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Post by thehightenor on Oct 18, 2021 2:04:28 GMT -6
I haven’t tried the Hardy m1, but think it would be cleaner. Yesterday, I di’d my squire p bass into Daking and WA76d, best bass sound here ever. So far, I’ve done Vox, acoustic and electric guitars and bass, others have commented on drum applications. I definitely think the Daking checks the all rounder box. Do you prefer to track bass with an 1176 over an opto or var-mu compressor or is it totally song dependant? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 18, 2021 4:17:25 GMT -6
So far, I like the faster attack of the 76, but I guess that is somewhat song dependent. I had 2 Wa2a and did use them on bass but never had a VM.
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Post by Ward on Oct 18, 2021 5:05:14 GMT -6
I haven’t tried the Hardy m1, but think it would be cleaner. Yesterday, I di’d my squire p bass into Daking and WA76d, best bass sound here ever. So far, I’ve done Vox, acoustic and electric guitars and bass, others have commented on drum applications. I definitely think the Daking checks the all rounder box. Do you prefer to track bass with an 1176 over an opto or var-mu compressor or is it totally song dependant? What are you looking for in a bass sound? |
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Post by thehightenor on Oct 18, 2021 5:44:21 GMT -6
Do you prefer to track bass with an 1176 over an opto or var-mu compressor or is it totally song dependant? What are you looking for in a bass sound? I'm really happy with my bass sounds - I'm just interested in other peoples approaches. Which didn't really answer your question |
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Post by Ward on Oct 18, 2021 6:31:57 GMT -6
What are you looking for in a bass sound? I'm really happy with my bass sounds - I'm just interested in other peoples approaches. Which didn't really answer your question Possible questions/answers that go through our minds when we're recording bass: 1. Put some point on it 2. Can you bring the mids out more for more notey tone? 3. There's already a fairly dense mix, bass is bottom 4. McCartney? uh, hello? HPF at 50hz 5. how can I make it bloom? 6. Is the bass fighting with the kick? 7. WHy does everything sound like mush? 8. The bass is disappearing Just a few that spring to mind for me all the time. And it's not absolutes, just a touch of some of them at times and often, the choice of tracking compressor can fix or worsen the problems. |
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Post by thehightenor on Oct 18, 2021 7:15:02 GMT -6
I'm really happy with my bass sounds - I'm just interested in other peoples approaches. Which didn't really answer your question Possible questions/answers that go through our minds when we're recording bass: 1. Put some point on it 2. Can you bring the mids out more for more notey tone? 3. There's already a fairly dense mix, bass is bottom 4. McCartney? uh, hello? HPF at 50hz 5. how can I make it bloom? 6. Is the bass fighting with the kick? 7. WHy does everything sound like mush? 8. The bass is disappearing Just a few that spring to mind for me all the time. And it's not absolutes, just a touch of some of them at times and often, the choice of tracking compressor can fix or worsen the problems. Great list. So many issues can be removed at the arrangement stage! My reference for great bass is listening to "Hey 19" by Steely Dan through ATC 25's :-) Now that is fantastic bass on every level. If I can achieve that it's been a good day! |
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Post by mcirish on Oct 18, 2021 8:51:31 GMT -6
If one was trying to choose for an all rounder Pre for 87 vocals,DI mono synths, bass, etc…would you pick Daking over a Hardy-style pre? I have both. Obviously, sound is a personal thing so.... The Daking is a little punchier and I like it on most instruments, especially drums and piano. I tend to use the Hardy on vocals and violin. It "seems" a little smoother. It's all subjective. I think they are both great and could easily record everything with either one. |
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Post by enlav on Dec 14, 2021 9:44:34 GMT -6
The Daking Mic Pre 4T is out now. vintageking.com/daking-mic-pre-4tI remember the prior "IV" going for a little over 2k USD... I haven't gone over the product info all that much, but I'm guessing part shortages and the inclusion of the variable HPF might be some reasons for the price increase. |
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Post by plinker on Dec 14, 2021 10:51:02 GMT -6
Cool! However, for $3K I expect better than a shitty little coax power connector. Those things get bent up, fall out...not good for remote work.
They should have stuck with a locking connector. like the older units.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 14, 2021 11:04:04 GMT -6
Fair point, in terms of price, it has the full complement input and output Jenson trannies or 8 in total, they aren’t cheap.
I thought the 2 channel version was $18-1900,if so, this is 25% cheaper per pre for 4 pres.
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Post by enlav on Dec 14, 2021 11:51:15 GMT -6
Fair point, in terms of price, it has the full complement input and output Jenson trannies or 8 in total, they aren’t cheap. I thought the 2 channel version was $18-1900,if so, this is 25% cheaper per pre for 4 pres. Didn't the original Mic Pre IV also have input/output transformers?
Not to say the unit isn't worth the price, just that I don't know if that's what changed from older "Mic Pre IV mk2" (or whatever the last iteration was).
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 14, 2021 11:57:29 GMT -6
Not certain, I just bought the 2 channel with just input transformers which was around $1200.
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Post by plinker on Dec 14, 2021 12:40:18 GMT -6
Fair point, in terms of price, it has the full complement input and output Jenson trannies or 8 in total, they aren’t cheap. I thought the 2 channel version was $18-1900,if so, this is 25% cheaper per pre for 4 pres. Didn't the original Mic Pre IV also have input/output transformers?
Not to say the unit isn't worth the price, just that I don't know if that's what changed from older "Mic Pre IV mk2" (or whatever the last iteration was).
I believe the original version had in/out trannies. I spoke with Geoff D. about them. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 14, 2021 12:48:28 GMT -6
The iv, I don’t know about but the 2 channel pre with other trannies is $18-1900, so the4 pres for $3000 , is a relative savings, is all I was saying.
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Post by Dan on Sept 14, 2024 10:00:44 GMT -6
I have no idea why the Daking Pres and compressors are so cheap used. They’re excellent.
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 14, 2024 11:32:56 GMT -6
I’d buy daking used in a heartbeat, but I haven’t seen the comps cheap ?
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