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Post by Blackdawg on Aug 27, 2021 22:16:33 GMT -6
Well I tried to order one. Maybe I can get on a wait wait list. I do wish there was more detail on the Mojo C options other than the SSL. Are these colour modules already available? If you don't choose the SSL, are the other two options also stereo, or can you select two different modules? I was wondering about something like that FET compressor, or the Pentode tube. Which module was the one touting 2nd stage console processing? I do think it looks like an improved product. If this price is actually the regular price I guess waiting isn't as big of a deal. But if it does go up, I'm wondering why not just take more orders while the iron is hot? Any colour module from LTL, DIYRE, HRK, or whoever will fit. Snaps right in. Lots of colour chassis options. I'm a fan of the colour duo by DIYRE for it's easy of access to the colours. For you guys who tried to order 0 dmo Blackdawg sirthought - per Brad @ mission command : Silver Bullet mk2 Update :
Demand for the first limited batch of pre-order units has been off the charts today. They all went very quickly. Thanks to everyone who ordered!
We are evaluating making more units available for pre-order this weekend.
Stay tuned! Thanks for your patience. There will be more!Well that's cool! Well I tried to order one. Maybe I can get on a wait wait list. I do wish there was more detail on the Mojo C options other than the SSL. Are these colour modules already available? I do think it looks like an improved product. If this price is actually the regular price I guess waiting isn't as big of a deal. But if it does go up, I'm wondering why not just take more orders while the iron is hot? - see my previous post for order / wait / pre-ordering. If you go on the LTL website, there is lots of info on your various colour module options and they are available as long as they are not out of stock. They have been available for quite awhile : store.louderthanliftoff.com/collections/rgbAlso, all the colour modules on DIYRE are compatible too. LOTS of choices!!! www.diyrecordingequipment.com/pages/the-colour-formatULTIMATELY, the C Mojo block will also be able to accept LTL Mojo Blocks - which are modular mojo blocks ala our A and N mojo blocks. We kicking the tires on a few options here.....but the Colour options are ready to rock today. At this point, I have not heard of any plans to raise the price, but with Covid production constraints, anything is possible. Crazy times we live in to be trying to build great gear...... Interesting that the mojo blocks are modular and new ones could come out. Though the controls on C are different with drive and blend vs in and out. Or does it change when a mojo block is in place vs a colour module? |
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Post by sirthought on Aug 27, 2021 22:27:51 GMT -6
Silver Bullet has two mic preamps, right?
I guess I'm seeing now C-Drive and C-Mix are controls. Kind of different to not have a preamp control the same as A and N.
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Post by drbill on Aug 27, 2021 22:30:03 GMT -6
Thanks for the response. Okay I'm familiar with those two pages describing colour modules. My question is about the MKII page, under Features, it describes Mojo C with three bullet options as being Hitmaker 4000, C-Drive, and C-Mix. I assume all of these are separate modules? Which modules are C-Drive and C-Mix? Those aren't listed on the Colour pages. If those two things are part of the Hitmaker, then it's not organized clearly. C-Drive and C-Mix are parts of the Silver Bullet mk2 and they control whatever colour module(s) you put into the Silver Bullet. Hitmaker4000's are the colour modules that mk2 comes standard with on release. Hope that clears things up. |
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Post by drbill on Aug 27, 2021 22:33:24 GMT -6
Interesting that the mojo blocks are modular and new ones could come out. Though the controls on C are different with drive and blend vs in and out. Or does it change when a mojo block is in place vs a colour module? If an LTL mojo amp goes into the C Mojo slot, the controls are "drive and blend" as you mentioned. It's kinda cool. A different way to drive and blend your mojo. You still have the traditional options in the A and N blocks. Hope that makes sense. We've been living with this a long time, and sometimes we just (mistakenly) figure that everyone else knows what we know. LOL |
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Post by sirthought on Aug 27, 2021 22:35:03 GMT -6
Thanks for the response. Okay I'm familiar with those two pages describing colour modules. My question is about the MKII page, under Features, it describes Mojo C with three bullet options as being Hitmaker 4000, C-Drive, and C-Mix. I assume all of these are separate modules? Which modules are C-Drive and C-Mix? Those aren't listed on the Colour pages. If those two things are part of the Hitmaker, then it's not organized clearly. C-Drive and C-Mix are parts of the Silver Bullet mk2 and they control whatever colour module(s) you put into the Silver Bullet. Hitmaker4000's are the colour modules that mk2 comes standard with on release. Hope that clears things up. Yes, I think I'm now up to speed. LOL. thank you! In the features description there's no photo helping you see those are control pots, so my mind went to module options. I thought you chose when you ordered. |
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Post by drbill on Aug 27, 2021 22:47:13 GMT -6
Silver Bullet has two mic preamps, right? I guess I'm seeing now C-Drive and C-Mix are controls. Kind of different to not have a preamp control the same as A and N. Yes, two STEREO mic amps in A and N flavors - (although future mojo blocks will expand that). Think of the C mojo block as a secondary tone shaper for your A/N mic amps IF you decide to use it - not a mic amp itself. Could be an 1176, Tube module (hint of the future), VCA style comp, EQ, etc.. Hoping that makes sense to you. in reality, I've never tried the C mojo block as a mic amp itself. I'm not sure what would happen. I'll try to get around to trying that tomorrow and see what happens. Mojo is always engaged here - So A/N are always the mic amp flavors. |
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Post by sirthought on Aug 27, 2021 22:53:26 GMT -6
Okay, so I also mistakenly thought Hitmaker was giving you SSL 4000 style preamp, as A and N did for API and Neve.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2021 23:41:23 GMT -6
That Fostex MN-50 module sounds ridiculously cool in the videos. Would be super fun to track through.
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Post by Blackdawg on Aug 28, 2021 0:09:55 GMT -6
Okay, so I also mistakenly thought Hitmaker was giving you SSL 4000 style preamp, as A and N did for API and Neve. No that is true. Although I'm not sure I'd say preamps. They are shaping the tone to sound like an API console, a never console, and with the hitmaker a ssl 4000e console. They are full mic pre circuits persay as it's a line level amp box too. |
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Post by javamad on Aug 28, 2021 1:02:22 GMT -6
So for people who are ITB …
You have 2 preamps, with the color options on the way in. You can have the same or different colour modules on each pre?
Wondering if the Aspect Ratio circuit could work its magic on overheads on the way in? Or is it only affecting any line in signal?
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Post by Blackdawg on Aug 28, 2021 1:34:43 GMT -6
So for people who are ITB … You have 2 preamps, with the color options on the way in. You can have the same or different colour modules on each pre? Wondering if the Aspect Ratio circuit could work its magic on overheads on the way in? Or is it only affecting any line in signal? You could have different colour modules on the colour part. But not on the A and N part, least not yet. But doesn't make a lot of sense to do that anyways as it's stereo control. I have used mine for stereo overheads. Works great! If you have it in "Mic" mode then it runs through the whole chain: Mojo -> Colour -> insert -> Tone/Eq -> Aspect Ratio. I'd recommend reading the manual. It's very good. it's for the MK1 but still same concept. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0574/4353/files/LTL_Silver_Bullet_User_Manual_DRAFT_110715.pdf?17959249964346378014 |
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Post by audionaut on Aug 28, 2021 7:49:32 GMT -6
So, I had this plan for some hardware buss processing that included an SSL Fusion at the heart of it, a TK Audio BC-1THD (current SSL Comp favorite) then maybe a pultec style EQ (Audioscape? Creme RC?). I've always been intrigued by the original Silver Bullet, but buying a "Color Box" seemed more like a luxury than necessity and ranked pretty low on my list behind what seemed like more practical, analog workhorses (Compressors, equalizers, preamps). I didn't understand where it fits in with the above mentioned signal chain. Now the MK2... it seems could knock out the Fusion entirely and possibly give the BC-1THD and EQ's a run for their money in some applications. This box might actually do 80% of what I need on the mix bus and it's expandable. I might have to reconsider LTL. I've heard a lot of examples online where everything clearly sounds better going through it vs. bypassed, but the part I'm missing is how functional the EQ is. The MK2 version seems to be more flexible, offering a mid band as well as the tradition Bax. Looks really cool. Can't wait to hear more examples.
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Post by Ward on Aug 28, 2021 8:32:06 GMT -6
Any truth to the rumor I'm just starting that friends of drbill on Real Gear get a 50% discount? Haha! drBill couldn't even get one of the first ones. They are very close to selling out in the hour they have been announced. If you want a discount, you're talking with the wrong guy. Brad is your man!  HAHAHAHAH . . . as the British say "I'm just taking the piss". What people do to me every day. "Say, got any of those audioscape units left, can you get me a discount?" HAHA . . . I try. Mr. Yetter is very patient with me and suffers my tomfoolery mercifully, so to speak! LOL |
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Post by audioscape on Aug 28, 2021 12:45:41 GMT -6
Haha! drBill couldn't even get one of the first ones. They are very close to selling out in the hour they have been announced. If you want a discount, you're talking with the wrong guy. Brad is your man! HAHAHAHAH . . . as the British say "I'm just taking the piss". What people do to me every day. "Say, got any of those audioscape units left, can you get me a discount?" HAHA . . . I try. Mr. Yetter is very patient with me and suffers my tomfoolery mercifully, so to speak! LOL LOL.... hahahahaha. As awesome as it is, when someone asks "are their any units left?" the answer is nearly always invariably, NO... hahaha. ....discounts follow the same thread. We wish we could - but we're already selling these units at ROCK BOTTOM prices - our "profit margins" are LESS than razor thin. LOVINGGGG this LTL SB MK2 !!!! AH!! SUPER smart to include the HitMaker 4000 modules in the C spot! |
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Post by javamad on Aug 29, 2021 3:21:40 GMT -6
So for people who are ITB … You have 2 preamps, with the color options on the way in. You can have the same or different colour modules on each pre? Wondering if the Aspect Ratio circuit could work its magic on overheads on the way in? Or is it only affecting any line in signal? You could have different colour modules on the colour part. But not on the A and N part, least not yet. But doesn't make a lot of sense to do that anyways as it's stereo control. I have used mine for stereo overheads. Works great! If you have it in "Mic" mode then it runs through the whole chain: Mojo -> Colour -> insert -> Tone/Eq -> Aspect Ratio. I'd recommend reading the manual. It's very good. it's for the MK1 but still same concept. cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0574/4353/files/LTL_Silver_Bullet_User_Manual_DRAFT_110715.pdf?17959249964346378014Thanks. I think with my 16 channels of different pres, what I would best be able to take advantage of is the Chroma+ … I had not seen that product … I could have a couple on my patchbay to add colour where needed on the way in … and then if LUNA gets hw inserts sorted I coul be using them on groups with my Zulu aswell … I will have to look at this. Anyway … back to the Silver Bullet mk2 thread… looks like a winner! |
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Post by thehightenor on Aug 29, 2021 3:31:45 GMT -6
"Hitmaker 4000"
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Post by BradM on Aug 29, 2021 17:19:20 GMT -6
Hi all,
I’m a little late to the party, but I just wanted to say thanks for all the questions, comments, encouragement, and support. It’s been a hell of a journey and we are super excited to make the Silver Bullet mk2 a reality. I will do my best to answer any questions you might have….or at least send answers via Bill since he tends to be way more active on the forums these days than I am. Thanks in advance for your patience.
To anyone here that was able to score a unit from the initial pre-order batch—congrats and thank you for your order! I am confident you are absolutely going to love what the team has created. Speaking of the team…Louder Than Liftoff has always been a team endeavor from the very beginning. Some of the folks intimately involved in the development and assembly of LTL products have been with us for many years. Due to their obligations and commitments to other companies and projects they can’t always take the public credit they truly deserve. But they kicked ass on this thing and we are so grateful to have them as friends, mentors, and partners in making great sounding gear. As for the folks I can mention…Bill, and Deegan…thanks for joining me on this crazy ride while we blow up circuits in the man cave.
Someone remind me to one day share the video of the first time I powered on the first Silver Bullet mk2 prototype. There were lots of expletives…
Cheers,
Brad
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Post by drbill on Aug 29, 2021 17:31:14 GMT -6
As for the folks I can mention…Bill, and Deegan…thanks for joining me on this crazy ride while we blow up circuits in the man cave. Someone remind me to one day share the video of the first time I powered on the first Silver Bullet mk2 prototype. There were lots of expletives… Cheers, Brad Haha!!! Yes, happy to be helping out in the blowing up of various circuits in the Man-Cave!! It always distresses me when it happens, but I must keep in mind that releasing the magic smoke yields progress towards the final product!! |
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Post by Blackdawg on Aug 30, 2021 15:26:20 GMT -6
lol the number of Silver bullets FS the last 3 days has been impressive on Reverb. Strangely, they all seem to cost as much as an MK2 or there abouts...haha
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Post by drbill on Aug 30, 2021 15:30:00 GMT -6
lol the number of Silver bullets FS the last 3 days has been impressive on Reverb. Strangely, they all seem to cost as much as an MK2 or there abouts...haha Classic vintage. Always worth more than anything new. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Aug 30, 2021 15:58:43 GMT -6
lol the number of Silver bullets FS the last 3 days has been impressive on Reverb. Strangely, they all seem to cost as much as an MK2 or there abouts...haha Classic vintage. Always worth more than anything new. curious actually, will it be phased out? Or still made and sold? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Aug 30, 2021 16:25:30 GMT -6
2 thoughts:
Savvy Reverb sellers have just jacked their prices, so the buyer pays their fees?
Mki owners trying to use other people’s money to pay for their new mkii?
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Post by BradM on Aug 30, 2021 16:51:43 GMT -6
Classic vintage. Always worth more than anything new. curious actually, will it be phased out? Or still made and sold? I’m reserving the right to make mk1’s available at any point in the future. You just never know what might happen. But right now we are making mk2. I’m quite amazed at the prices people are getting for mk1’s. Maybe I need to raise the price of mk2 by $500….  Brad |
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Post by indiehouse on Aug 30, 2021 17:09:53 GMT -6
curious actually, will it be phased out? Or still made and sold? I’m reserving the right to make mk1’s available at any point in the future. You just never know what might happen. But right now we are making mk2. I’m quite amazed at the prices people are getting for mk1’s. Maybe I need to raise the price of mk2 by $500…. Brad Noooo!!! Not yet. |
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Post by drbill on Aug 30, 2021 17:11:18 GMT -6
I’m reserving the right to make mk1’s available at any point in the future. You just never know what might happen. But right now we are making mk2. I’m quite amazed at the prices people are getting for mk1’s. Maybe I need to raise the price of mk2 by $500…. Brad Noooo!!! Not yet. |
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