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Post by warren on May 1, 2014 0:55:27 GMT -6
Anyone else notice the recent price increase for the API 500-6B? Wow, now $700 :/
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 1, 2014 5:05:57 GMT -6
I'm seeing $594 everywhere, not $700. Still a bad deal. Looks like the 500-8B is still the 424 though.
-Jesse
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Post by Johnkenn on May 1, 2014 7:31:45 GMT -6
Wow...I just replaced my old Brent Averill with one precisely because of the price...glad I didn't wait.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 1, 2014 7:33:41 GMT -6
I Looks like the 500-8B is still the 424 though. -Jesse Of course, two Mogami Dsub cables and you're at $700... |
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Post by wreck on May 1, 2014 7:36:03 GMT -6
I heard they are phasing out the 6 slot so they jacked up the price. They have that new 8 slot for the old 6 price that you need Dsub cables for. Not sure why they are phasing it out. I can say that my API 6 slot won't run all my mic pres at once. Not enough power for all of them, so maybe things are just changing and that model needs to go.
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 1, 2014 7:38:31 GMT -6
I Looks like the 500-8B is still the 424 though. -Jesse Of course, two Mogami Dsub cables and you're at $700... Either way, you need cables to run it. Is this box Chinese made? |
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Post by warren on May 1, 2014 7:52:10 GMT -6
Of course, two Mogami Dsub cables and you're at $700... Either way, you need cables to run it. Is this box Chinese made? I've been trying to find that out. I have one and can't find any markings saying where its made. Wouldn't surprise me though. And $700 is what sweet water is currently listing them. First I thought it was just a goof. Then I added one to my cart at frontend, woke up the next morning, went back to my cart and the price jumped up. Checked vintage king and price also up. :/. Not buying at that price. You know how many big macs I can get for $300?! |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 1, 2014 8:32:38 GMT -6
Obviously, the best route is to go for CAPI, Purple, Ingram, etc...11 space boxes with beefy supplies...but my problem is I just don't need that many slots, so there's no reason to spend that much on them.
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Post by lolo on May 1, 2014 8:58:21 GMT -6
Im no endorser of the guy. And i wont buy any of his other gear,BUT i did buy a Lindell 6 slot to step into the 500 range. And didnt want to spend too much at the time for a chassis. Been great so far. Not one issue. At $299 I think its a bargain.
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Post by matt on May 1, 2014 9:16:34 GMT -6
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Post by warren on May 1, 2014 9:41:36 GMT -6
I was actually this close to getting that cartec because of that compare feature, but I most likely wouldn't utilize it that much so held off. That and the purple is looking to be the next best option for me though. Also probably the radial racks
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Post by matt on May 1, 2014 10:02:56 GMT -6
Cartec touts the power capacity - "3 amps per rail". If I were to get into the whole 500 series thing, this would be an important consideration for me, since I understand that many manufacturers abuse the maximum power spec as originally defined by API. I have found that more power is (nearly) always a good thing.
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 1, 2014 10:03:26 GMT -6
The Radial 6 slot for $450 looks like the best priced powerful option. The new 8 slot API has 250ma rather than the 215ma of the 6 slot right? 8 slots for $424 is pretty good price per slot.
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Post by warren on May 1, 2014 10:15:57 GMT -6
Yeah I have one, pretty satisfied so far. Wish it had a power switch though, but it's fine. But when I think about the no xlr inputs/outputs, the cheaper power adapter, and probably made overseas, production cost should be a lot less. Shouldn't these actually be cheaper than the 6B?
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Post by tonycamphd on May 1, 2014 10:21:54 GMT -6
Cartec touts the power capacity - "3 amps per rail". If I were to get into the whole 500 series thing, this would be an important consideration for me, since I understand that many manufacturers abuse the maximum power spec as originally defined by API. I have found that more power is (nearly) always a good thing. by the benchmark criteria of most vendors(which is mostly hype), the CAPI 51x PSU would give 6 amps per rail, fortunately for us, Jeff doesn't partake in such nonsense 8) The lindell has a weak PSU, also IMV it's important to stay away from PS on the rack, good shielding is expensive to manufacturers, and noise happens. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 1, 2014 10:23:05 GMT -6
Yeah I have one, pretty satisfied so far. Wish it had a power switch though, but it's fine. But when I think about the no xlr inputs/outputs, the cheaper power adapter, and probably made overseas, production cost should be a lot less. Shouldn't these actually be cheaper than the 6B? They are cheaper now.  |
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Post by warren on May 1, 2014 10:40:08 GMT -6
haha, yep sure are now
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Post by wiz on May 1, 2014 15:25:51 GMT -6
Cartec touts the power capacity - "3 amps per rail". If I were to get into the whole 500 series thing, this would be an important consideration for me, since I understand that many manufacturers abuse the maximum power spec as originally defined by API. I have found that more power is (nearly) always a good thing. by the benchmark criteria of most vendors(which is mostly hype), the CAPI 51x PSU would give 6 amps per rail, fortunately for us, Jeff doesn't partake in such nonsense 8) The lindell has a weak PSU, also IMV it's important to stay away from PS on the rack, good shielding is expensive to manufacturers, and noise happens. I have a API 6B ... I often wonder what sort of performance increase I would see with a different , segregation PSU type rack... would be interesting. cheers Wiz |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 1, 2014 15:49:40 GMT -6
Honestly, I don't think you would see any performance increase...I just bought one of the 6B's after having an older Brent Averill 6 space. I had problems with the BA - slots wouldn't work sometimes, headroom issues, etc. The only difference in that rack and this one is that the API works as advertised. Btw - I should mention that the headroom issues on the BA could be corrected by pulling out a module and puttin back in. Just kind of annoying shot like that. With the API - No headroom issues, etc. I don't notice any difference in sound when everything works the same though.
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Post by tonycamphd on May 1, 2014 16:27:40 GMT -6
Honestly, I don't think you would see any performance increase...I just bought one of the 6B's after having an older Brent Averill 6 space. I had problems with the BA - slots wouldn't work sometimes, headroom issues, etc. The only difference in that rack and this one is that it works all the time. you have a 6b, wiz has a 6b, he's suggesting an external PSU on something other than a 6b i believe. you said you had headroom issues with the old BA, and the only diff is that it works now. Do you have the same headroom issues now with the 6b(like your post suggests?), confused? my experience is PSU's almost alway make at least a small diff, sometimes a very large diff. Remote PSU's introduce less noise into your audio paths generally, introduce less heat in you 500 modules, and a robustly built PSU that doesn't need to work hard will surely last longer, all of this=better performance. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 1, 2014 16:43:26 GMT -6
No - I meant that everything works...no headroom issues, no dead slots, etc...
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 1, 2014 17:37:37 GMT -6
Im no endorser of the guy. And i wont buy any of his other gear,BUT i did buy a Lindell 6 slot to step into the 500 range. And didnt want to spend too much at the time for a chassis. Been great so far. Not one issue. At $299 I think its a bargain. That's what I'm using here Lolo. Plenty good enough for me too. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 1, 2014 18:07:05 GMT -6
Whaaaaat! You traitor!
I keed, I keed.
When did you get into 500 cowboy?
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 1, 2014 18:29:47 GMT -6
Got into a few months back for the AEA ribbon pre mostly. Then picked up an AML.
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Post by RicFoxx on May 1, 2014 18:40:59 GMT -6
Got into a few months back for the AEA ribbon pre mostly. Then picked up an AML. you like that Aml pre cowboycoalminer |
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