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Post by kcatthedog on Jun 21, 2021 6:46:37 GMT -6
Just curious what people are preferring on their 2 bus?
I am enjoying using plugs, but do find myself reconsidering an OB comp, (ssl clone, 609,?)
Your preferences/workflow ?
Thx!
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Post by svart on Jun 21, 2021 6:55:43 GMT -6
Plugs. Now I'm using:
VMR: 4kE virtual bus (pushing into the red, adding a bit of drive) SSL mix bus comp (sometimes before EQ, sometimes after) Pultec (boosting highs usually) Magnetite (sometimes, black tape, hitting it moderately) L1 (a few db off on peaks, usually snare)
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jun 21, 2021 7:22:41 GMT -6
Plugs. Now I'm using: VMR: 4kE virtual bus (pushing into the red, adding a bit of drive) SSL mix bus comp (sometimes before EQ, sometimes after) Pultec (boosting highs usually) Magnetite (sometimes, black tape, hitting it moderately) L1 (a few db off on peaks, usually snare) I’m doing hardware for sub mixes and a summed mix, then ITB for 2 bus (which I mix in to). Everything hits Silver Bullet in summed mix then back to DAW for the following… - UAD Fairchild (mostly tone, -1db reduction or none at all) - Softube Curve Bender - Townhouse Bus Comp ( -1db to -2db) - UAD Ampex - bx_masterdesk (lightly used) - bx_limiter (I mix at -5db so this is also lightly used) I would be a good candidate for hardware since I rarely change my 2 bus settings. But on the other hand why change? I turn on turn signal chain and everything sounds better. My view is that since I’m only doing very subtle stuff on 2 bus, probably not much to be gained on hardware.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jun 21, 2021 7:51:45 GMT -6
Plugs.
BX_Townhouse
If mastering, adding Pro-Q3, Sonnox Oxford Inflator (if right for the song), Pro-L.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jun 21, 2021 8:19:12 GMT -6
Dangerous summing into VP-28 into SSL bus comp. Back into PT and depending on the music I’ll sometimes throw something else on there for flavor, very rarely an eq, and sometimes the FF L2 to bring things up to level without popping any overs.
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Post by indiehouse on Jun 21, 2021 8:55:10 GMT -6
I’m using both HW and Plugs, mostly HW.
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Post by sean on Jun 21, 2021 9:35:39 GMT -6
At home I have 4 pairs of hardware insert in Pro Tools that go to a pair of Spectra 1964 V610's, pair of AML EQP-1A, Alan Smart C1 (in Dual Mono), and Overstayer MAS. I use any combination of those. Hit the Specta's first to level off an peaks, then the Alan Smart, then the AML's, then the MAS. Occasionally I still used UAD Ampex. Also, every once in awhile I use the UAD Maag EQ4 or Dangerous BAX.
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Post by drbill on Jun 21, 2021 9:44:57 GMT -6
Hybrid, with the focus on hardware - Silver Bullet (always), Manley Vari-Mu, 14B's or SSL Buss comp for compression, Miad LCPQ4040, or Avalon AD2055 for EQ. Plugins for the final brick wall - Fabfilter. Plugin for a little more flexibility on the HPF. Oxford or Chop shop.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 21, 2021 9:45:15 GMT -6
Hybrid
Usually always my Silver bullet
Magic Death eye plugin is in use usually and Pro Limiter or something else. From there it can be Flatline clipper, Goodhertz Midside, Abbyroad TG mastering chain, Pro3 or Equality.
At the other studio I use a SB4001, Tubecore, EQ6-S, and EQp5 pretty regularly.
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Post by seawell on Jun 21, 2021 10:00:04 GMT -6
Dangerous 2 Bus / Focusrite Red 3 / Iron Age Audioworks LH95 pair for hardware Usually a pultec and tape plug in as well. Fab Filter Pro-L2 at the very end but if all is going right, it isn't doing much if any limiting at all.
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Post by thirdeye on Jun 21, 2021 10:32:16 GMT -6
Hybrid over here. SSL Sigma summing to hardware 2 bus chain (SSL G Comp 500, Heritage 609A or Serpent 4001 to TKLizer 500 or Elysia X Filter to Lavry AD10), plugin for final limiting.
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Post by notneeson on Jun 21, 2021 10:47:02 GMT -6
I've been alternating depending on where I'm working (home vs. project studio).
ITB: I'm rocking the Noise Ash Pultec and BX_Townhouse, L2007 when I need limiting. I also really like Massey's Clipper, but it's treacherous if you over-bake it and I seldom master anything for release anyway.
OTB: Dangerous summing, Stam 4000, 1073 clones line in (but not always), AD.
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Post by indiehouse on Jun 21, 2021 11:02:43 GMT -6
There’s a lot of you using limiting on the mix buss. Are most of you limiting on the mix bus, then sending off for mastering?
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Jun 21, 2021 11:32:24 GMT -6
There’s a lot of you using limiting on the mix buss. Are most of you limiting on the mix bus, then sending off for mastering? My limiting is very, very limited. It's really just to keep my mix references consistent. And even then probably a placebo, I doubt I would notice if you took it off.
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Post by drumsound on Jun 21, 2021 11:39:21 GMT -6
I guess I'm just a simpleton. I use the console for summing, faders at 0 kind of thing, and mix into a Drawmer '68 back into PT.
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Post by gwlee7 on Jun 21, 2021 11:40:58 GMT -6
I am so new to all of this but what is working best for me at the moment is Silver Bullet with an Audioscape Buss comp on its inserts.
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Post by notneeson on Jun 21, 2021 12:47:00 GMT -6
There’s a lot of you using limiting on the mix buss. Are most of you limiting on the mix bus, then sending off for mastering? I reference limiting on the mix buss much of the time, but I definitely turn it off before I send the files out for mastering. My 2 buss EQ plugin might get bypassed too, but I need to know how my mix responds to a lifted top end etc.
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Post by jmoose on Jun 21, 2021 13:51:53 GMT -6
There’s a lot of you using limiting on the mix buss. Are most of you limiting on the mix bus, then sending off for mastering? Whenever I see threads like this I always wonder if I'm missing something or possibly not doing enough? Maybe some are self-mastering while mixing? I don't use nearly as much as some people who have a half dozen things patched analog or digital... Most mixing is analog so there's a Summit DCL200 or RMS755 super stereo (ssl type) on the SSL desk insert. That's it. If the tracks coming in for mix are super dark or bass light... they need a big swing I'll patch an EQ otherwise I don't. Mixing ITB its generally UAD Manley Vari Mu and precision limiter. And the limiter isn't doing much of anything. Threshold at -1dB output at -.5 its there to shave random peaks and keep the DA converter clean. Its not there for level. And again I'll add an EQ if I feel the need. Vast majority of projects get proper mastering by a 3rd party. In the rare cases they don't and I'll be self-mastering for budget reasons I'll push things a little harder while mixing... but final masters are still a dedicated pass outside of mixing. Have been a few times over the years where I've ended up having a competition with the mastering engineer and it sucks. Everyone loses. I lose, whoever's mastering loses and the artist loses too. So I'd rather keep things "clean" and leave room for mastering.
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Post by jaba on Jun 21, 2021 16:01:54 GMT -6
Lately been mostly sticking to ITB EQ (touch of Equilibrium but sometimes something with more character - Pultec style usually), hardware comp (RMS775), and Limiter6 for a touch of general and HF limiting.
Depending on the nature of the project, sometime I'll aim for color/smear/mood ITB. U-he Satin is a fav.
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Post by Tbone81 on Jun 21, 2021 19:18:15 GMT -6
Usually it’s a pair of vp28’s, my sebatron tube pres, and then some flavor of ITB compressor. Been using the Slate VMC Red for that lately. But I’ve been jonesing for a dedicated HW buss compressor, just don’t know what I’d get…so many great options.
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Post by javamad on Jun 22, 2021 5:43:11 GMT -6
I went ITB last year and in Logic on my 2-Bus I had
Pro-EQ3 > UAD Pultec > UAD Ampex 102 > UAD 33609 or UAD 2254 > Pro-L2
EQ3 is mostly to see how the mix is hitting the 2-bus, I rarely do more than a HP at 25Hz or maybe mono-ize the low end up to 80 or 100.
Pro-L2 is just to check my LUFS … generally at about -12 unless I am pushing for a particular project.
Now I have moved 100% to Luna so there is Neve or API summing on the groups and 2-bus and the Ampex tape is in the Master tape slot after the summing but before the inserts.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 6:01:43 GMT -6
Out of the mixer to Studer 1/4" @ 15ips, copy to daw and send it to be mastered.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2021 6:17:52 GMT -6
SDRR 2 Desk on HQ+, drive 1, crosstalk medium, getting the needle barely moving. This adds a nice blend. Molot GE Fuse VQP 258 one tick up or down. U-he Satin being barely hit with the soft clip on or Fuse Flywheel occasionally now. Goodhertz Good Dither, high, 24-bit usually, no noise shaping. I just print it in case it has a sound because I’m monitoring through it anyway. It’s more hi-fi than the PSP X-Dither.
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Post by drumsound on Jun 22, 2021 10:07:57 GMT -6
Out of the mixer to Studer 1/4" @ 15ips, copy to daw and send it to be mastered. I do that a good amount too.
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Post by EmRR on Jun 22, 2021 10:20:25 GMT -6
I don't use that much, and all hardware. Usually FCS P4DMS comp at 1.2:1 hitting 0.5-1dB, sometimes parallel SB4001 barely touching with drums/bass exclusively in it, and a Doldy 740 in parallel to all of that. Clients may get rough mix ITB bounces with a brick wall, those are all louder than my delivered mixes. There are the rare times I'll let an ITB brick wall shave some strays on the way OTB. Extremely rare to have mix bus EQ.
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