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Post by Guitar on May 27, 2021 7:37:56 GMT -6
What do you think? A giant MIDI controller, comes with two plugins, $849 I like that VU meter, the layout looks good, seems to be huge, much bigger than Softube Console 1. I own the plugins, they are indeed nice ones. I'm curious how easy it would be to use Brand X SSL plugins with this. SSL UC1.webp (57.58 KB)  |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on May 27, 2021 8:36:16 GMT -6
Looks cool. And pricy.
Curious what this 360 Plug-in thing is. Might be more interested in that.
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Post by ericn on May 27, 2021 8:47:52 GMT -6
It is kind of cool but I don’t get the idea of a controller for just SSL plugins! I mean if your going to expect me to just use SSL then give me a stripped down SSL digital board with low latency!
Also I kind of find the separate controls for bus comp and channel comp redundant.
From my point of view they could have done something very cool with a small display and less knobs. I think I’m still more drawn to Softtube console just for the amount of plugins it will control out of the box.
I’m sure since they set up their fader controller to be map able this is to but the question is how much work vs how seamless it will intergrate.
We really, really have to push for a modern open controller protocol and standard for plugin control. This is a small step but one I fear because of the dedicated nature will be looked upon by others as a fail.
Hopefully if I’m right it won’t discourage others.
Cool idea though it’s the reality that leaves me disappointed.
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Post by stormymondays on May 27, 2021 9:19:03 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on May 27, 2021 10:02:17 GMT -6
Just got a text from an old friend who saw this thing and thought SSL was releasing a DJ mixer. At a quick glance I see it!
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Post by bradd on May 27, 2021 10:33:19 GMT -6
It would seem like this would be bad news for the folks who make the Rock Solid Audio controller, although I believe it is considerably cheaper.
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Post by Guitar on May 27, 2021 10:40:14 GMT -6
It would seem like this would be bad news for the folks who make the Rock Solid Audio controller, although I believe it is considerably cheaper. That one's probably more up my alley, certainly. Cheaper, smaller, looks kind of handmade. Advertised to work with several brands. |
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Post by Vincent R. on May 27, 2021 11:26:56 GMT -6
I saw this too. I could see myself using this. I'm still leaning toward the Rock Solid controller considering it will work with nearly all of the SSL plugs; UAD, WAVES, SSL Native, Brainworx, etc. Although, Eric makes a good point for the softube.
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Post by Guitar on May 27, 2021 12:18:29 GMT -6
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Post by ericn on May 27, 2021 12:43:28 GMT -6
It would seem like this would be bad news for the folks who make the Rock Solid Audio controller, although I believe it is considerably cheaper. Very different price point and I’m not sure if the Rocksolid has the LED indicators to give an idea of the knob position. |
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Post by din on May 27, 2021 12:53:48 GMT -6
It's not a MIDI controller.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 14:32:28 GMT -6
How about SSL improves their plugin quality first? They’ve sold the same algorithms for almost 20 years and just updated the gui and use JUCE. Compared to the coolest recent plugs (Fuse, TDR, PSP, etc), the SSL Duende, now Native, plugs just sound like shit.
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Post by wiz on May 27, 2021 15:19:52 GMT -6
I like it. Won’t buy it...
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Post by Guitar on May 27, 2021 15:33:43 GMT -6
You can use the 360 software now already if you have the 2 plugins. Doesn't require the controller. Sort of the same idea as Waves CLA MixHub. Too big for my screen, doesn't seem like a great workflow with this monitor. But here are the links if you want to mess with it. You have to Update within the software before the Plugin Mixer shows up. mac versionwindows version |
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Post by stormymondays on May 27, 2021 16:45:51 GMT -6
How about SSL improves their plugin quality first? They’ve sold the same algorithms for almost 20 years and just updated the gui and use JUCE. Compared to the coolest recent plugs (Fuse, TDR, PSP, etc), the SSL Duende, now Native, plugs just sound like shit. They just did. I haven’t upgraded yet. |
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Post by OtisGreying on May 27, 2021 17:14:22 GMT -6
I mean the plug-ins themselves can be had for very little no? Don’t you think that’s quite a bit of money for some knobs?
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Post by mrholmes on May 27, 2021 18:45:02 GMT -6
ericnThis video explains the show. Makes sense to me but it would be great if SSL would support the Waves and Brainworx SSLs too. 900 bucks is a bit steep for my taste.
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Post by subspace on May 27, 2021 18:53:57 GMT -6
You can use the 360 software now already if you have the 2 plugins. Doesn't require the controller. Sort of the same idea as Waves CLA MixHub. Too big for my screen, doesn't seem like a great workflow with this monitor. But here are the links if you want to mess with it. You have to Update within the software before the Plugin Mixer shows up. mac versionwindows versionOk, this is pretty cool, digging the MixHub competition...  |
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Post by rowmat on May 27, 2021 19:01:07 GMT -6
I can see it now...
SSL produce a dedicated SSL plug-in controller.
AMS/Neve then produce their own version.
Next is a dedicated API plug-in controller... etc.
Eventually your studio is no longer full of hardware EQ’s/compressors etc but instead is full of dedicated plug-in controllers.
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Post by woofhead on May 27, 2021 19:36:49 GMT -6
I can see it now... SSL produce a dedicated SSL plug-in controller. AMS/Neve then produce their own version. Next is a dedicated API plug-in controller... etc. Eventually your studio is no longer full of hardware EQ’s/compressors etc but instead is full of dedicated plug-in controllers. perhaps the apocalypse really is at hand this time |
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2021 19:41:34 GMT -6
How about SSL improves their plugin quality first? They’ve sold the same algorithms for almost 20 years and just updated the gui and use JUCE. Compared to the coolest recent plugs (Fuse, TDR, PSP, etc), the SSL Duende, now Native, plugs just sound like shit. They just did. I haven’t upgraded yet. Damn will check out the new bus comp this weekend and might be forced to eat my words. The Glue spanked the old one. |
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Post by ericn on May 27, 2021 20:45:58 GMT -6
I can see it now... SSL produce a dedicated SSL plug-in controller. AMS/Neve then produce their own version. Next is a dedicated API plug-in controller... etc. Eventually your studio is no longer full of hardware EQ’s/compressors etc but instead is full of dedicated plug-in controllers. This my fear a desk with 30 controllers! |
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Post by OtisGreying on May 28, 2021 1:56:51 GMT -6
I can see it now... SSL produce a dedicated SSL plug-in controller. AMS/Neve then produce their own version. Next is a dedicated API plug-in controller... etc. Eventually your studio is no longer full of hardware EQ’s/compressors etc but instead is full of dedicated plug-in controllers. Likely to be the case unfortunately as these companies just slowly start to get greedier (hope not tho)
Think about it, pushing plastic with virtual software included for 800$ is a lot bigger of a margin than selling a 2000$ analog piece of quality gear..
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Post by javamad on May 28, 2021 3:18:17 GMT -6
We need a single control surface with nanobots that take the physical form of the knobs, faders and switches of the analog device corresponding to the plugin emulation you are controlling…
wow that sentence turned out more complex than I thought :-)
Would be cool though … because the main limitation of every single controller is they can only have one set of physical controls …. so the compromises start to appear very quickly
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Post by drumrec on May 28, 2021 4:08:32 GMT -6
I have to say that I like this quite a lot. Tested to download the two new updates Channel Strip and Bus Comp (have the plugs from the old Duende time). Then downloaded SSL 360 and kicked off Logic (does not work on Luna yet). So well integrated. This is exactly how it should be when integrating HW controls with plugins. Love that SSL 360 Mixer. Clear, simple, smooth. I also love external gears. But see this as a fantastic smooth complement to work smoothly with plugins without mouse and screen for that matter, now I hope UA tops this with their integrating HW controls.
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