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Pultecs
Apr 25, 2014 8:52:03 GMT -6
Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 25, 2014 8:52:03 GMT -6
I know there are a lot of different companies making Pultecs. From what I've read, the Cartecs seem to be the closest to the originals, along with the Pulse Techniques.
Anyone have experience with the different Pultecs? How are the Summit or Manley versions since they seem to sell for the least money? How about the Retro vs. Mercury?
It seems reasonable to get a stereo pair of the Summit or Manley for ~$2k used. Retro 2a3 or the Mercury EQH1 pair are ~$3000, Mercury EQP1 pair ~$3500, Cartec pair ~$4k.
Any other viable options out there?
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Pultecs
Apr 25, 2014 10:55:13 GMT -6
Post by Johnkenn on Apr 25, 2014 10:55:13 GMT -6
jsteiger built one of the DIY ones...not sure where those are found...it looked awesome...
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Apr 25, 2014 11:05:52 GMT -6
Post by jsteiger on Apr 25, 2014 11:05:52 GMT -6
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Pultecs
Apr 26, 2014 22:58:41 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 26, 2014 22:58:41 GMT -6
Not many Pultec users here or what? I would love a pair to track kick and vocals with and then stick on the 2-buss when mixing.
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Apr 28, 2014 18:27:09 GMT -6
Post by matt on Apr 28, 2014 18:27:09 GMT -6
Looks like AML has the EQP1 kits back in stock. Nearly pulled the trigger on two. Even though it's supposed to be an easy build, I have no one to bail me out if I eff them up. And the built units are not quite as good of a deal with import duty and exchange rate costs added in - I figure near $1500 each, final cost, delivered to my door. Still . . .
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 28, 2014 18:35:50 GMT -6
AML has amazing build docs, it's hard to mess up, dandeurloo built the drip(i think), he raves! maybe he'll tell us more? |
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Pultecs
Apr 28, 2014 18:40:23 GMT -6
Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 28, 2014 18:40:23 GMT -6
Anyone using non-DIY Pultecs? If these AML's are going to cost me $3k for a pair, I'd rather grab a Retro 2A3 for the same price, save some rack space, and not have to worry about blowing the build.
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Apr 28, 2014 20:09:38 GMT -6
Post by cowboycoalminer on Apr 28, 2014 20:09:38 GMT -6
Jeff Can you test tubes at your place for microphonics? I'd give a good penny to find someone I can trust to test tubes. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 28, 2014 21:17:05 GMT -6
Jeff Can you test tubes at your place for microphonics? I'd give a good penny to find someone I can trust to test tubes. Hey cowboy, if jeff wants to do it great, if not, you need look no further than Christian Whitemore ProAudioTubes@aol.com send him an inquiry, and you'll get a long on explanation, and confidence inspiring response, i get all my tubes from him, so do a bunch of Groupdiy folk. good luck man |
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Pultecs
Apr 29, 2014 8:38:56 GMT -6
Post by jsteiger on Apr 29, 2014 8:38:56 GMT -6
Jeff Can you test tubes at your place for microphonics? I'd give a good penny to find someone I can trust to test tubes. No Herbie, I do not have a tube tester. |
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Pultecs
Apr 30, 2014 5:52:15 GMT -6
Post by cowboycoalminer on Apr 30, 2014 5:52:15 GMT -6
Thanks for the heads up Tony.
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Apr 30, 2014 8:36:22 GMT -6
Post by svart on Apr 30, 2014 8:36:22 GMT -6
Not many Pultec users here or what? I would love a pair to track kick and vocals with and then stick on the 2-buss when mixing. I had always heard they were more one-trick ponies than they are made out to be by their reputation, which is part of the reason a lot of folks don't have them.. that and the price. Although, this is hearsay though. |
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May 3, 2014 22:10:05 GMT -6
Post by dandeurloo on May 3, 2014 22:10:05 GMT -6
My drip pultecs flat out rule!
Best eq I have. Sound great on everything.
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Post by Guitar on May 3, 2014 23:57:38 GMT -6
I love pultecs. only plugins for me, to date, but want to change that.
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Post by jsteiger on May 4, 2014 8:00:58 GMT -6
My drip pultecs flat out rule! Best eq I have. Sound great on everything. We are setting up a Pultec shootout in Chicago at Johnny K's Groovemaster Studios. dandeurloo, you should come down and bring your Drips. As soon as we arrange for the Pulse units we will be ready. We have the Summit version (not the 2 channel but their old limited EQP1A), my AML ez's, Cartec's, Pulse's and of course a real deal. No software versions allowed  |
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May 4, 2014 13:38:47 GMT -6
Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 13:38:47 GMT -6
I think the Psidex eq1 from Old World Audio are extremely good. Better than my TubeTech's,with ease...,for instance
Rather affordable too.
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May 4, 2014 16:29:12 GMT -6
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Post by littlesicily on May 4, 2014 16:29:12 GMT -6
I think the Psidex eq1 from Old World Audio are extremely good. Better than my TubeTech's,with ease...,for instance Rather affordable too. Yeah I've heard those. A friend uses on his mix buss and they sound good. |
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Post by dandeurloo on May 4, 2014 17:05:25 GMT -6
Keep me in the loop!
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 5, 2014 13:13:04 GMT -6
Well, got a Summit on the way. I've dug their compressors in the past and at ~1/2 the price of a Retro 2a3, I figure that it's worth a shot. Hopefully you guys don't determine that it sucks in the shootout that you're doing.  I know that I've read in the past that it doesn't have all the mojo of the real thing. |
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May 5, 2014 13:21:29 GMT -6
Post by unit7 on May 5, 2014 13:21:29 GMT -6
I've been back and forth about the new Pulses for more than a year. Very forth right now. Have been enjoying a pair of Cartecs on my bus for a few years and if the Pulses are only the slightest bit cooler sounding I won't regret. I'm also very interested in that Pultec shoot out. Promise to report! :-)
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May 5, 2014 13:22:11 GMT -6
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Post by littlesicily on May 5, 2014 13:22:11 GMT -6
I'm def a fan of hardware, but I think plugin eqs are prob the closest of all emulations.
I've never owned a pultec which begs the honest question from actual users:
what sources are you using a pultec or pultec inspired eq on when recording that can't be done with plugins?
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May 5, 2014 13:34:50 GMT -6
Post by unit7 on May 5, 2014 13:34:50 GMT -6
I'm def a fan of hardware, but I think plugin eqs are prob the closest of all emulations. I've never owned a pultec which begs the honest question from actual users: what sources are you using a pultec or pultec inspired eq on when recording that can't be done with plugins? I don't get the question 100%... Wouldn't a Pultec eq emulating plugin always 'do' exactly the same thing as HW? Isn't the question how it sounds? I only have the Bombfactory and the Waves Pultecs. Compared it to my Cartecs. They do a similar thing, but I prefer the latter. |
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May 5, 2014 13:47:41 GMT -6
Post by littlesicily on May 5, 2014 13:47:41 GMT -6
I'm def a fan of hardware, but I think plugin eqs are prob the closest of all emulations. I've never owned a pultec which begs the honest question from actual users: what sources are you using a pultec or pultec inspired eq on when recording that can't be done with plugins? I don't get the question 100%... Wouldn't a Pultec eq emulating plugin always 'do' exactly the same thing as HW? Isn't the question how it sounds? I only have the Bombfactory and the Waves Pultecs. Compared it to my Cartecs. They do a similar thing, but I prefer the latter. Sorry not more clear... I guess I'm asking why people spend the money on a hardware pultec, drip, AML, etc *if* the plugs are really great. I know I'd rather record w/ my hardware STA, 1176, etc comps, but eq is fine for me ITB. I'm just wondering if there's a factor I'm not considering... maybe workflow or some sonic choice that isn't there ITB. I'm not trying to open a hardware/software debate... just specifically to the Pultec. |
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May 5, 2014 14:01:48 GMT -6
Post by unit7 on May 5, 2014 14:01:48 GMT -6
I don't get the question 100%... Wouldn't a Pultec eq emulating plugin always 'do' exactly the same thing as HW? Isn't the question how it sounds? I only have the Bombfactory and the Waves Pultecs. Compared it to my Cartecs. They do a similar thing, but I prefer the latter. Sorry not more clear... I guess I'm asking why people spend the money on a hardware pultec, drip, AML, etc *if* the plugs are really great. I know I'd rather record w/ my hardware STA, 1176, etc comps, but eq is fine for me ITB. I'm just wondering if there's a factor I'm not considering... maybe workflow or some sonic choice that isn't there ITB. I'm not trying to open a hardware/software debate... just specifically to the Pultec. Ok, cool. I don't enjoy the HW/SW debate either  But there's an interesting thought/question: If you had to choose between either HW comps or HW eqs and the rest ITB during recording or mix... So you would go for HW comps then? Actually I believe I'd go for HW eqs... At least when mixing. Perhaps not when tracking though... To me there's something really nice, kind of physical, happening with the Cartecs on the bus. Not so much with the SW I've tried imo. |
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Post by littlesicily on May 5, 2014 14:21:26 GMT -6
Sorry not more clear... I guess I'm asking why people spend the money on a hardware pultec, drip, AML, etc *if* the plugs are really great. I know I'd rather record w/ my hardware STA, 1176, etc comps, but eq is fine for me ITB. I'm just wondering if there's a factor I'm not considering... maybe workflow or some sonic choice that isn't there ITB. I'm not trying to open a hardware/software debate... just specifically to the Pultec. Ok, cool. I don't enjoy the HW/SW debate either But there's an interesting thought/question: If you had to choose between either HW comps or HW eqs and the rest ITB during recording or mix... So you would go for HW comps then? Actually I believe I'd go for HW eqs... At least when mixing. Perhaps not when tracking though... To me there's something really nice, kind of physical, happening with the Cartecs on the bus. Not so much with the SW I've tried imo. Yeah, for recording, mic choice, position, etc is my eq... for the most part. I'm generally just using a HPF before a compressor. |
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I know that I've read in the past that it doesn't have all the mojo of the real thing.
But there's an interesting thought/question: If you had to choose between either HW comps or HW eqs and the rest ITB during recording or mix... So you would go for HW comps then? Actually I believe I'd go for HW eqs... At least when mixing. Perhaps not when tracking though... To me there's something really nice, kind of physical, happening with the Cartecs on the bus. Not so much with the SW I've tried imo.