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Post by gouge on May 3, 2021 4:03:58 GMT -6
anyone rocking Cream 2, i got a copy via focusrite. gonna load it up this week but from what i'm hearing online it sounds a little special.
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Post by jpanderson80 on May 5, 2021 13:58:54 GMT -6
Also got it from Focusrite deal.
It's good for vocals. Seems to have the huskiness that was perfect for the vocal that I tried. I didn't love the compression.
Preamp Tube #2 was my winner. The EQ was very sensitive to the mouse and a little goes a long way with my sources. I'm not sure if I'll use it much, but I did set some presets for the preamps and tubey options to get some vibe going.
For mastering... I haven't checked it out yet. The preamp may be a good option on acoustic work though.
What are your thoughts?
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Post by gouge on May 5, 2021 15:00:14 GMT -6
Will be digging in to it over the weekend. One of the reviews i saw suggested mixing through the pre.
Keen to see how resource hungry it is.
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Post by sopwith on May 8, 2021 0:29:51 GMT -6
Had a huge revelation and I'm finally getting along with my Acustica plugs (Cream (EMI), Gold (Neve), Pink (API)); I set aside two hours and mapped them to my DAW controller.
What a difference! They're now a joy to use and of course sound phenomenal.
The tedium of maniplating the (admittedly beautiful) interfaces with a mouse had previously discouraged me from using them, but now it's like having vintage channel strips on my desk.
The cream EQ and Comp plugs will now sit as options on my bass, vocal, and master bus channels on my main template.
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Post by gouge on May 8, 2021 1:56:25 GMT -6
Which daw controller do you use. Have been thinking i need one.
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Post by sopwith on May 8, 2021 3:34:00 GMT -6
Which daw controller do you use. Have been thinking i need one.
I use Push 2 since I do most work in Ableton, which makes the mapping pretty easy. You can set up mappings for any plugs and just have them ready to drab into a session. I also have a Softube Console Fader coming on Monday; if I didn't have Push, I'd definitely be looking at the Console 1.
Enjoying this so much, I'm ready to ditch the mouse altogether.
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Post by gouge on May 8, 2021 3:54:41 GMT -6
Im looking at the icon platform nano. Planning to demo one before the month is out.
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Post by gouge on May 9, 2021 15:29:02 GMT -6
Also got it from Focusrite deal. It's good for vocals. Seems to have the huskiness that was perfect for the vocal that I tried. I didn't love the compression. Preamp Tube #2 was my winner. The EQ was very sensitive to the mouse and a little goes a long way with my sources. I'm not sure if I'll use it much, but I did set some presets for the preamps and tubey options to get some vibe going. For mastering... I haven't checked it out yet. The preamp may be a good option on acoustic work though. What are your thoughts? I put cream on a vocal track yesterday. Sounds great. There is so much scope in the settings. I used tube and pre setting the most. Found subtle driving on the input the best for what i was doing. Sounded more natural. Comp i really liked. Using C and just getting the needle moving. |
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Post by the other mark williams on May 12, 2021 21:23:11 GMT -6
Cream might be my favorite sounding Acustica "channel strip" plugin. Which is potentially a little weird, because it's theoretically less versatile than Pink or Gold, and the UI pretty much sucks, IMO.
Btw, you can click on any of the weird little dial parameters and then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to scroll through them. Much faster.
I just love the flavor of the plugin overall. Broad strokes. I find it can go a lot more places in a mix than might be immediately obvious. I actually really like the compressors, too, at least with the wet/dry mix turned down a bit.
It's much more CPU friendly than Gold. And it's Apple ARM ready.
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Post by gouge on May 13, 2021 2:09:13 GMT -6
Wait!
it has a wet dry knobbbb.
Gotta add the coffee free plug is excellent too. The high shelf is sooo nice.
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Post by gouge on May 13, 2021 2:11:38 GMT -6
Cream might be my favorite sounding Acustica "channel strip" plugin. Which is potentially a little weird, because it's theoretically less versatile than Pink or Gold, and the UI pretty much sucks, IMO. Btw, you can click on any of the weird little dial parameters and then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to scroll through them. Much faster. I just love the flavor of the plugin overall. Broad strokes. I find it can go a lot more places in a mix than might be immediately obvious. I actually really like the compressors, too, at least with the wet/dry mix turned down a bit. It's much more CPU friendly than Gold. And it's Apple ARM ready. How do you find pink. Ive been thinking about it. Will get lemon first then pink is an option. Can it function as a 2500 comp and is the eq good on guitars |
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Post by soundintheround on May 13, 2021 8:14:14 GMT -6
The latency, CPU hit and overall quirks of the plug-in is pretty terrible....but I agree it does sound great.
Something about CREAM seems to gets closer to the non-linearities of hardware in subtle ways at least for me.
I feel like with most plug-ins you get a single snapshot of that piece of gear, in terms of gain-staging/tone/etc. But with the acustica stuff seems to be a bit more program dependent or something. Sounds more ‘complex’ (if that makes any sense)
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Post by jpanderson80 on May 13, 2021 15:08:41 GMT -6
Cream might be my favorite sounding Acustica "channel strip" plugin. Which is potentially a little weird, because it's theoretically less versatile than Pink or Gold, and the UI pretty much sucks, IMO. Btw, you can click on any of the weird little dial parameters and then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to scroll through them. Much faster. I just love the flavor of the plugin overall. Broad strokes. I find it can go a lot more places in a mix than might be immediately obvious. I actually really like the compressors, too, at least with the wet/dry mix turned down a bit. It's much more CPU friendly than Gold. And it's Apple ARM ready. How do you find pink. Ive been thinking about it. Will get lemon first then pink is an option. Can it function as a 2500 comp and is the eq good on guitars Pink is very good. The EQ & Pre's get used here a lot. Even for mastering work, they are solid options. The comp is good and even though it's a quirky AA comp, when it works, it's very good. It's not my first choice for ITB comp though. For mixing work, I use Pink as part of my templates. |
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Post by gouge on May 13, 2021 15:12:48 GMT -6
Thx.
Curious what your first choice itb comp is.
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Post by the other mark williams on May 13, 2021 18:36:16 GMT -6
Cream might be my favorite sounding Acustica "channel strip" plugin. Which is potentially a little weird, because it's theoretically less versatile than Pink or Gold, and the UI pretty much sucks, IMO. Btw, you can click on any of the weird little dial parameters and then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to scroll through them. Much faster. I just love the flavor of the plugin overall. Broad strokes. I find it can go a lot more places in a mix than might be immediately obvious. I actually really like the compressors, too, at least with the wet/dry mix turned down a bit. It's much more CPU friendly than Gold. And it's Apple ARM ready. How do you find pink. Ive been thinking about it. Will get lemon first then pink is an option. Can it function as a 2500 comp and is the eq good on guitars Pink is excellent IMO. Really good EQs and pres. I agree with Jeremy that the compressor isn't always right, but I find it quite usable on a number of sources. I've had it sound nice on acoustic guitar and also on drum bus. Even lead vocals a couple times. It's not as good or as versatile as something like Arouser, though. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 13, 2021 21:05:19 GMT -6
Cream might be my favorite sounding Acustica "channel strip" plugin. Which is potentially a little weird, because it's theoretically less versatile than Pink or Gold, and the UI pretty much sucks, IMO. Btw, you can click on any of the weird little dial parameters and then use the arrow keys on your keyboard to scroll through them. Much faster. I just love the flavor of the plugin overall. Broad strokes. I find it can go a lot more places in a mix than might be immediately obvious. I actually really like the compressors, too, at least with the wet/dry mix turned down a bit. It's much more CPU friendly than Gold. And it's Apple ARM ready. How do you find pink. Ive been thinking about it. Will get lemon first then pink is an option. Can it function as a 2500 comp and is the eq good on guitars I have Pink2 that I'd be willing to sell if Acustica allows it. It's just too taxing on my system to rely on it, so I use other stuff. |
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Post by the other mark williams on May 13, 2021 23:22:57 GMT -6
How do you find pink. Ive been thinking about it. Will get lemon first then pink is an option. Can it function as a 2500 comp and is the eq good on guitars I have Pink2 that I'd be willing to sell if Acustica allows it. It's just too taxing on my system to rely on it, so I use other stuff. just like everything else Acustica, even their license transfers are weird. You get like 5 transfer requests for free - regardless of how many licenses are included in each of those 5 requests. So if you own a number of their products, it behooves you to sell more than one license at a time. Once you run out of the “5 free requests,” it doesn’t actually make sense to try and sell anymore, because the fees are so high. It’s their way of maintaining a market for themselves. |
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Post by gouge on May 14, 2021 2:47:49 GMT -6
Can i ask which daw and computer you guys having issues are using?
Seems to be issues with cubase and or mac.
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Post by gouge on May 14, 2021 2:49:32 GMT -6
How do you find pink. Ive been thinking about it. Will get lemon first then pink is an option. Can it function as a 2500 comp and is the eq good on guitars I have Pink2 that I'd be willing to sell if Acustica allows it. It's just too taxing on my system to rely on it, so I use other stuff. I am interested but was wondering if i buy your copy of pink 2 can i upgrade to pink 4 and does the transfer limit only apply to the person selling the plug? |
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Post by the other mark williams on May 14, 2021 8:19:11 GMT -6
I have Pink2 that I'd be willing to sell if Acustica allows it. It's just too taxing on my system to rely on it, so I use other stuff. I am interested but was wondering if i buy your copy of pink 2 can i upgrade to pink 4 and does the transfer limit only apply to the person selling the plug? Once you own a product line (Pink, Gold, whatever), you'll get all updates to that product in the future. No discriminating against you for where you bought it. Re: the transfer for YOU if you were to try and sell a product you bought used, it's a good question. I'm not 100% sure, but I think the 5 free transfer thing is just applicable per USER, so I don't think it would impact your ability to sell any product, regardless of where you bought it. If that's important to you, though, you should check with Acustica, b/c I don't know for sure on that. |
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Post by the other mark williams on May 14, 2021 8:24:26 GMT -6
Can i ask which daw and computer you guys having issues are using? Seems to be issues with cubase and or Mac. The most problems seem to crop up with Cubase, Pro Tools, and Studio One. And yes, the code is less optimized for Macs. But honestly, Reaper is probably the only DAW that runs them super super well. Re: Macs, a lot is going to be revealed this year as they migrate the code to run natively on Apple ARM chips. They ought to gain a lot more power and run better (on Macs). If they don't, we'll know something is up. IME, Cream is less intensive on the CPU than Pink, and Pink is less intensive than Gold. |
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Post by jpanderson80 on May 14, 2021 10:50:39 GMT -6
Thx. Curious what your first choice itb comp is. Mixing work: TDR's Molot GE - the versatility is fantastic. It goes from clean to colored with a very usable range between the two extremes. LA2A and LA3A ideas are possible, thanks to the dual release options, which makes it extremely smooth if needed. The saturation is beautiful. It creates "depth" that is hard to go without once you've enjoyed it. The included EQ options are interesting and helpful. ITB tools are improving sonically, and compressors are finally getting there in some ways. But more so, the workflow has to be there for me. TDR does it right from a technical side and for workflow. And their products fit for my mind very well. |
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Post by jpanderson80 on May 14, 2021 10:52:38 GMT -6
Can i ask which daw and computer you guys having issues are using? Seems to be issues with cubase and or Mac. The most problems seem to crop up with Cubase, Pro Tools, and Studio One. And yes, the code is less optimized for Macs. But honestly, Reaper is probably the only DAW that runs them super super well. Re: Macs, a lot is going to be revealed this year as they migrate the code to run natively on Apple ARM chips. They ought to gain a lot more power and run better (on Macs). If they don't, we'll know something is up. IME, Cream is less intensive on the CPU than Pink, and Pink is less intensive than Gold. I second all of that. Reaper and Mac here... no issues other than the AA weirdness. (knobs, lack of smoothness, slow to load, etc.) |
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Post by gouge on May 18, 2021 15:46:46 GMT -6
I changed the name of the thread to suit the content of a more generic conversation.
Decided to replace all of my plugs with acustica because they keep making my mixes sound better
So continuing the deep dive i bought taupe.
oh my. Its very very good. The eq is capable of broad and surgical and sounds fantastic.
The tape section to me actually sounds like tape. Now ive used it i cant see myself not using it. Definitely need to mix into it.
Upside is now my itb reverbs are starting to sound better.. wtf.
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Post by gouge on May 18, 2021 16:13:29 GMT -6
Speaking of taupe eq. Does anyone know what its modelled from?
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