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Post by gouge on Oct 14, 2021 16:05:15 GMT -6
acustica are having a 50-60% off sale for 3 of their mastering plugs emerald, scarlett and erin.
not my cup of tea but maybe for someone else.
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Post by theshea on Feb 3, 2022 11:11:43 GMT -6
anyone remember focusrite liquid mix? i had one and thought it sounded fantastic.
can anyone compare acustica with liquid mix?
i am tempted to try out acustica but to afraid because reading about the negative aspects as cpu and bugs on certain systems.
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 3, 2022 15:37:49 GMT -6
anyone remember focusrite liquid mix? i had one and thought it sounded fantastic. can anyone compare acustica with liquid mix? i am tempted to try out acustica but to afraid because reading about the negative aspects as cpu and bugs on certain systems. Sure, I remember the Focusrite Liquid mix stuff. Acustica is at least an order of magnitude better IMO. I would definitely demo whichever Acustica product you're thinking about on your system before purchase. IME, it's not always predictable which ones are going to crush your system. I mean, they're all pretty heavy (though better on Reaper and Windows), but some much more so than others. Nebula tends to be lighter on the CPU, and in many cases, actually sound better than Acquas. But there are some great Acquas out there for sure. |
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Post by mjheck on Feb 4, 2022 9:02:29 GMT -6
Nebula tends to be lighter on the CPU, and in many cases, actually sound better than Acquas. But there are some great Acquas out there for sure. You know, I have thought the same thing. Which is a shame, given how much simpler the Acquas are to purchase and use. But I find I keep going back to N4 and the stuff from Henry Olanga, Petherick, AITB, etc. I thought maybe it was just because I was used to them - kind of relieved to hear someone else feels the same. MJH |
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Post by theshea on Feb 4, 2022 11:28:35 GMT -6
... and how are the free ones? thinking about making my first dive through them.
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Post by jaba on Feb 4, 2022 11:46:35 GMT -6
I quite like Acustica stuff, though I only use it here and there.
Part of the reason is despite a decent but older CPU (Intel i7 7700k w/32G RAM), I just can't use too much of them before things get glitchy.
This affects workflow so...no. Not to imply they're constantly crashing my system, it's mostly because once the CPU is topping out, things get dicey.
Having so many great sounding (and highly reliable) algo plugs makes me use them even less. Still, I do use Gold, Purple, Pink and Sand a fair amount. Maybe a part of it is I'm so comfortable with how their hardware equivalents work.
I do think they can sound really good, but mostly when used sparingly. After trying a mix with nothing but Aqua plugs, I found there was just some kind of subtle sheen on the high end that was a far cry from sitting in front of an actual console with hardware. But here and there I find I quite like what they do. Snare, vocal, guitar, drum bus get the most Acustica love but they could end up anywhere really.
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 4, 2022 18:25:50 GMT -6
... and how are the free ones? thinking about making my first dive through them. Some stuff that used to be free isn't free anymore: Ceil, Cerise, and Celestial come to mind - and those are all excellent. Of the current free plugins, I actually don't have much experience with those. Tan I never use, Ochre was really good (but looks like it's not available anymore), I've never used Coral Baxter, I can't remember if I've ever used Titanium or not, and I've never tried Coffee the PUn. Of those, though, I would think Coffee the PUn to be the vibiest, just going on what the full Coffee suite is sampled from. Gold4 is excellent, but honestly, I prefer using Kit BB N105 (though they're not based on the same Neve consoles), just because Gold can be a real pain in the ass with resources sometimes. They've sampled some really interesting things in the past couple years that I just haven't taken the time to try, like Orban, Maag, EAR, Seimens stuff, etc. |
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Post by tkaitkai on Feb 4, 2022 20:17:38 GMT -6
... and how are the free ones? thinking about making my first dive through them. Some stuff that used to be free isn't free anymore: Ceil, Cerise, and Celestial come to mind - and those are all excellent. Of the current free plugins, I actually don't have much experience with those. Tan I never use, Ochre was really good (but looks like it's not available anymore), I've never used Coral Baxter, I can't remember if I've ever used Titanium or not, and I've never tried Coffee the PUn. Of those, though, I would think Coffee the PUn to be the vibiest, just going on what the full Coffee suite is sampled from. Gold4 is excellent, but honestly, I prefer using Kit BB N105 (though they're not based on the same Neve consoles), just because Gold can be a real pain in the ass with resources sometimes. They've sampled some really interesting things in the past couple years that I just haven't taken the time to try, like Orban, Maag, EAR, Seimens stuff, etc. Have you tried Eminence? I've been feeling kind of burnt out on plugins lately, but that one is a real gem. Not sure if it's still free, but IMO it's worth it even if not. They really knocked it out of the park — the tone is friggin' magical. I was already a big fan of Ceil and Celestial, but Eminence is on another level. Highly recommended. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 4, 2022 21:55:00 GMT -6
Some stuff that used to be free isn't free anymore: Ceil, Cerise, and Celestial come to mind - and those are all excellent. Of the current free plugins, I actually don't have much experience with those. Tan I never use, Ochre was really good (but looks like it's not available anymore), I've never used Coral Baxter, I can't remember if I've ever used Titanium or not, and I've never tried Coffee the PUn. Of those, though, I would think Coffee the PUn to be the vibiest, just going on what the full Coffee suite is sampled from. Gold4 is excellent, but honestly, I prefer using Kit BB N105 (though they're not based on the same Neve consoles), just because Gold can be a real pain in the ass with resources sometimes. They've sampled some really interesting things in the past couple years that I just haven't taken the time to try, like Orban, Maag, EAR, Seimens stuff, etc. Have you tried Eminence? I've been feeling kind of burnt out on plugins lately, but that one is a real gem. Not sure if it's still free, but IMO it's worth it even if not. They really knocked it out of the park — the tone is friggin' magical. I was already a big fan of Ceil and Celestial, but Eminence is on another level. Highly recommended. Been meaning to download it for the past month - thanks for the reminder! |
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Post by askomiko on Feb 5, 2022 6:03:24 GMT -6
I'm always just totally confuzzled after visiting Acustica site. 37 channel strips and 40 eq's and whatnot. Just, why? Make one good and stick with it.
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Post by theshea on Feb 5, 2022 7:55:36 GMT -6
I'm always just totally confuzzled after visiting Acustica site. 37 channel strips and 40 eq's and whatnot. Just, why? Make one good and stick with it. yeah, its like a labyrinth ... i‘d like to try acustica but don‘t know where to start. |
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Post by Quint on Feb 5, 2022 10:06:24 GMT -6
I'm always just totally confuzzled after visiting Acustica site. 37 channel strips and 40 eq's and whatnot. Just, why? Make one good and stick with it. This list tells you what specific pieces were actually sampled. It makes it a lot easier to figure out what you might be interested in. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Feb 5, 2022 19:00:03 GMT -6
I'm always just totally confuzzled after visiting Acustica site. 37 channel strips and 40 eq's and whatnot. Just, why? Make one good and stick with it. I don't disagree with the confusion part, but with their method being what it is (sampling vs. algorithm), I can understand how they've arrived at their approach. In some cases, they're sampling units that are incredibly rare - like old Italian broadcasting equipment that nobody in the US has ever even heard of. They're trying to capture some of these pieces before they literally cease to exist. Obviously that's not the case with all their plugs, but I kind of admire the idea of capturing old hardware before it's gone forever. |
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Post by theshea on Sept 10, 2022 4:57:16 GMT -6
finally tried my first acustica plugins, the free ones tan2 and eminence. sounding really good and vibey. they really remind me of focusrite liquid mix. i hear the same space/3d-ish sound. some of them liquid mix sampled comps and eqs were reeeally good. don‘t understand why focusrite did not design them with realistic gui‘s. they would have way more success with realistic gui‘s as we all know how human beeings/psyche works ;-) and the controller with knobs was fantastic. mixing with eyes closed, just turning knobs til it sounded good. everybody wants controllers for plugins nowadays. i guess focusrite liquid mix was ahead of its time ...
but anyways: the tan2 and eminence sound good and i am a bit hooked but problem really is cpu on my 2012 macbook pro ...
another point in favour of liquid mix. dsp was in the little box and outsourced from the computer. aaah how i miss my liquid mix, when listening back to those mixes made with it they still sound „analog“ to me.
i think its time to bite the bullet and upgrade my computer so i can get deeper into acustica. altough there‘s still the acustica > m1 > stability question/doubt remaining ...
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Post by lowlou on Sept 10, 2022 5:26:59 GMT -6
I let Acustica go. I spent a lot on them, thinking CPU would get better, but actually no, and so I can't work with them. I better go hardware.
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Post by sirthought on Sept 10, 2022 20:29:39 GMT -6
finally tried my first acustica plugins.... ... but problem really is cpu on my 2012 macbook pro ... I'm working on a M1 Pro with 16 GB RAM (which in the new Apple world is plenty)...and I still have big issues when I tried Acustica. I basically own all of their free plugs, which with one at least every Christmas is several now. If you are listening to a single track with something like The Coffee, then it can sound pretty good. But I still have issues with CPU now. I've basically decided there are enough plugin options that I don't need to worry about Acustica. I've dropped them out of my active folder. |
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Post by theshea on Sept 11, 2022 1:45:30 GMT -6
finally tried my first acustica plugins.... ... but problem really is cpu on my 2012 macbook pro ... I'm working on a M1 Pro with 16 GB RAM (which in the new Apple world is plenty)...and I still have big issues when I tried Acustica. I basically own all of their free plugs, which with one at least every Christmas is several now. If you are listening to a single track with something like The Coffee, then it can sound pretty good. But I still have issues with CPU now. I've basically decided there are enough plugin options that I don't need to worry about Acustica. I've dropped them out of my active folder. apparently the went a new tech way with tan2 which is cpu friendlier ... hmm but m1 should be good enough. if you say it ain‘t so, thats no good. |
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Post by theshea on Apr 11, 2023 0:35:50 GMT -6
still couldn‘t dive deeply into acustica … (did not buy one) but did a mix with the free Eminence plugin yesterday for a poppunkgaragerock song.
old style tracking and mixing: 24 tracks. i used Eminence wherever i could, like a console, augmenting it if needed with other plugins.
at first it seems limited and not very flexible but the preamps all sound subtle different and give character. the EQ has the important points and the comp was just grabby right for the style. and with the extra shmod, soa, filt and mix knobs it can do A LOT.
… and best of all: my old 2012 macbook pro & logic managed the session without CPU problems!
i like the sound! and the workflow! the gui should be bigger though.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 11, 2023 5:20:01 GMT -6
Nice, i’ve always read their plugs are very cpu intensive!
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Post by theshea on Apr 11, 2023 5:45:44 GMT -6
Nice, i’ve always read their plugs are very cpu intensive! yes, it consumes more cpu than eg the softube british class a, which i tried initially in the mixing session. but its ok with just 24 tracks. and its not on all the tracks, oversampling 16x always on. |
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Post by gouge on May 16, 2023 21:07:33 GMT -6
yeah to gold 5! this new engine acustica have is really very impressive.
love the compressors. not used the eq yet.
the newer acustica plugs to my thinking have come with lower cpu usage and improved fidelity. someones getting something right.
gold 5 was free as i already had 4 as is the case for all their plugs, another awesome part of acustica.
i've been using waves api2500 on my drum crush buss and gold 5 comp has put it to the sword!
the free black plug has neve emulation combined with filters. it makes my tracks sound better.
i'm pretty much acustica only now. except for TDL comps, eq and the arouser plug.
there are some key plugs for me from acustica.
taupe, black, aquamarine, lemon are a few i'd miss. this new version of gold is really making me smile and purple is my next buy.
also,
i'm also mixing with Sienna on my monitor buss. i mix with akg 712 headphones via a ross martin d/a. Sienna it's helping me to make better mix choices. that one acustica plug alone has made the biggest difference for me.
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