Covid vsccine

Now this is where the stories all start, she took the horse paste and within 24 hours she was better, nothing the Dr did helped her. Your argument is based on coincidence how do you know without a doubt that something the dress did was what actually worked, or like many viruses she just worked her way through it?  

Not picking on you Bill, but the argument for coincidence is just as valid.

This should scare the living shit out of all of us. Since the start of this every hospital should have been in its external disaster plan ( wife read KUs and realized the situation qualifies before she was through page one, I bet page 5).  The profits of elective procedures are just to tempting.
Having been the cause of an external disaster plan being implemented I have learned quite a bit about them. In a situation like this everybody who can legally treat COVID patients should be retrained to do so. MDs can legally do every task an RN can, there are a Ton of Pediatrists, GPs, etc who could step up and relieve the stress. All it would take is CMS to call a national emergency and to tell the MDs step up or you never see another penny from the Government again (70-80 of all US health care is paid for by the government.
At this point 2021, a social worker or nurse should not be working the phone looking for a transfer bed.  A blind computer database, nothing fancy could do the job, but again profits mean more. In the good old days in areas with more than one Hospital the default plan was for an epidemic was a “clean” non COVID & a “dirty” COVID facility. We haven’t even seen many facilities setting up the Clean and dirty towers.
before you use the potential long term effects of the vaccines as a reason not to get them consider this, the long term effects of not and the burn out and death of the skilled staff you might need in the future, I want to know that when I roll into an ER somebody like DMO is there to treat me, I want to know a Tbone is on staff if I need help breathing. These are finite recourses, yes we can train new ones but we need people who have experience to train them.

Except that she was going downhill, downhill, downhill (just having had cancer a year ago) after multiple Dr visits and hospital visits, then took an ABRUPT and serious downturn for the worse - followed by neighbor with Ivermectin (horse medicine no less) and then a quick turnaround for the better.  Her words, and opinions, not mine.  Take it or leave it.  It's only a story that flies in the face of current narrative and science.  My sister in law is a hardcore horse trainer / fanatic.  Has/had essentially the same story.  Was not a deathly sick though.  But yeah, coincidence.

I just took her at her word.  Her illness, rebound and health - not mine.

Should read both of these.

gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-5cc079278602

gidmk.medium.com/is-ivermectin-for-covid-19-based-on-fraudulent-research-part-2-a4475523b4e4

Brilliant!  I'd sure love to see a podcast with Bret, Kory and Matt.  

But seriously, the above explains soooooooooooo much of the disinformation floating around.

starting to see increased risk of severe disease in those vaccinated early. 

What the hell? They say this and offer no details??? 
does anyone know where the papers from India are explaining this? 

edit: rewatching again, ok.. I think she means increased risk of severe ‘COVID-Delta reaction’ in those vaccinated early.. which is what the whole topic is about. 
Phew! But I still want to see the papers and a clear explantion

I mean...the vaccine is *sort of* a miracle.  Haha.  But sure, for the most part you're right.  Let's just not forget that it's far easier for an unvaccinated individual, regardless of age or underlying conditions, to carry and spread the virus. 

I get what you're saying and I think it has saved a ton of lives, no doubt!  In regards to the ability to catch/spread, I'm not so sure that's the case anymore.  We'll have to see how all this latest data from Israel for example plays out.  

Edit: Just came across this: abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/rev-jesse-jackson-wife-jacqueline-hospitalized-covid-79582380
The waters are definitely getting a bit murky.  Hopefully we'll have more clarity soon.  It did stand out to me that they were vaccinated back in January so we'll see if the 6 month mark ends up being where a booster is recommended.  

That's what I was thinking too.  It's just that in situations like Jesse Jackson he's only 7 months so I'm wondering if that's going to get tightened up a bit.  

Boosters for the elderly and most vulnerable now, but based on the way things are going everyone that got vaccinated should expect a booster at some point, no? 

If some is good, more is better? 🤣

I'd be willing to make a friendly wager that by the end of the year boosters are recommended for all.

A very highly regarded pediatrician in my area posted this a couple days ago:

"The Pediatric ICUs in Oregon are FULL. So are the PICUs in Washington State. The Riverbend Pediatric Ward is preparing as best as it can to care for critically sick kids by local pediatric doctors working with telemedicine advice from pediatric intensivists if this crisis continues unabated. We are still weeks away from the anticipated peak in Oregon. And — we are planning on a full return to school soon despite sharply rising cases in kids…..“Elective” surgeries and procedures are being cancelled at our hospitals because we don’t have enough beds or staff to care for everyone with Covid while also caring for those who had surgeries and procedures scheduled. This includes all sedation for kids — so I cannot get a sedated brain MRI on a baby or child who needs one urgently. Many procedures deemed “elective” are actually delaying crucial care for adults and kids. Heart valve replacement, joint replacement…a long list of things that cannot happen now. Because the medical system is on the brink of collapse here in our community. Our ERs are overflowing with unprecedented volumes. Staff and physicians are working valiantly — but exhausted."

I understand that people feel concerned about a new vaccine, and I understand that people feel protective of their 'freedom', but let's not pretend that anyone is taking responsibility for their own choice when they choose not to vaccinate, choose not to mask up, choose not to distance. If you aren't shouldering your share of the burden, be sure that someone else is carrying it for you. It's abundantly clear that this has become a pandemic of the unvaccinated, and if you're going about your business as usual you're just asking someone else to deal with the consequences of your decision.

That said, those of us who chose the vaccine need to be real as well. If vaccinated people spread the virus we need to adjust our behavior accordingly. Maybe we hold off on the indoor concerts and the crowded brunches for a bit longer. We might feel some combination of protection and self-righteousness, but the fact is that we could be contributing to the problem and, again, someone else is shouldering the burden of our decisions.

Sorry for the sermon.

Thanks again to those of you who are in the trenches. You're making a heroic effort.