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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 1, 2021 0:32:46 GMT -6
Just watching a completely staged, lip sync’d Liam Gallagher on NYE on the Tonight Show...and it was as bad as I thought it would be. Why is Oasis so beloved? I don’t get it. The Beatles IMO are the end all be all...but I listen to Oasis and think they’re a terrible Beatles tribute band. Wtf?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 1, 2021 0:34:25 GMT -6
Ok. I’m rankings...but I have a 14 year old daughter that is obsessed with Harry Styles...and I gotta say - that album is pretty great. Even the One Direction I’ve heard eclipses anything Oasis has ever done.
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Post by ragan on Jan 1, 2021 1:52:52 GMT -6
Plus several million. Oasis to me was a super mediocre, milquetoast Brit pop band. But then, after having to occasionally still hear about them every once in awhile some 20+ years later, I have gradually (and reluctantly) gathered that they were a bigger deal than I understood. I have the same question as you, Johnkenn.....why??? |
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Post by gwlee7 on Jan 1, 2021 8:35:50 GMT -6
I read the thread title and was wondering why the Brits would be talking about the TV show Shameless.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 10:04:17 GMT -6
I once saw Oasis supporting a band with only one person in the audience (they were early on), everyone else who had turned up at the time was at the bar including myself.
They were playing songs from their future debut, there were a few borrowed riffs on the album which were
settled out of court after the release. I remember I and a few friends saying at the gig
'hey isn't that T Rex ?', or 'hey isn't that the coca cola i'd like to teach the world to sing ?',
Seems strange now as the LP became so huge..
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Post by the other mark williams on Jan 1, 2021 11:34:21 GMT -6
Personally, I like several Oasis songs. (What's The Story) Morning Glory? will always hold a dear place in my soul.
I'm an American, and one of the difficult things for us to understand (this is all coming from a dear friend of mine who's a full time musician here in NC but is from England originally) is the serious role that class plays in all things British. The Oasis vs. Blur music battle is something that's difficult to understand for us as Americans, but (according to my friend) is felt deeply across the pond. Part of the rabid appeal of a band like Oasis is a class appeal: Oasis is the working class band, Blur is the upper class band. Part of rooting for Oasis is a class identification thing.
I'm not trying to say that explains it all, but it's a piece that we often overlook in the US.
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Post by ericn on Jan 1, 2021 12:53:46 GMT -6
I read the thread title and was wondering why the Brits would be talking about the TV show Shameless. I thought he was either streaming the Original BBC version or my in-laws. to John’s point why does New Kids on the Block still sell out arenas? |
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Post by gwlee7 on Jan 1, 2021 13:09:51 GMT -6
Personally, I like several Oasis songs. (What's The Story) Morning Glory? will always hold a dear place in my soul. I'm an American, and one of the difficult things for us to understand (this is all coming from a dear friend of mine who's a full time musician here in NC but is from England originally) is the serious role that class plays in all things British. The Oasis vs. Blur music battle is something that's difficult to understand for us as Americans, but (according to my friend) is felt deeply across the pond. Part of the rabid appeal of a band like Oasis is a class appeal: Oasis is the working class band, Blur is the upper class band. Part of rooting for Oasis is a class identification thing. I'm not trying to say that explains it all, but it's a piece that we often overlook in the US. Every time some one brings up the British class system, I am rightly or wrongly reminded of the scene where King Arthur encounters Dennis. To be fair, almost everything that happens in my life reminds me of something from the Holy Grail. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 1, 2021 18:55:09 GMT -6
I like the Morning Glory album but that’s really all I know. That hit for me at an age where I thought it was super cool. I still really dig the songs... record sounds awful though. Ear piercing!
I have no shame saying Harry Styles is frigin awesome. Love his two records and it’s one of the ones the wife and I can throw on and both rock out to.
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Post by Ward on Jan 1, 2021 19:23:20 GMT -6
You said "Oasis" . . . And the entire British Empire yawned.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2021 10:22:08 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2021 10:50:13 GMT -6
Personally, I like several Oasis songs. (What's The Story) Morning Glory? will always hold a dear place in my soul. I'm an American, and one of the difficult things for us to understand (this is all coming from a dear friend of mine who's a full time musician here in NC but is from England originally) is the serious role that class plays in all things British. The Oasis vs. Blur music battle is something that's difficult to understand for us as Americans, but (according to my friend) is felt deeply across the pond. Part of the rabid appeal of a band like Oasis is a class appeal: Oasis is the working class band, Blur is the upper class band. Part of rooting for Oasis is a class identification thing. I'm not trying to say that explains it all, but it's a piece that we often overlook in the US. Every time some one brings up the British class system, I am rightly or wrongly reminded of the scene where King Arthur encounters Dennis. To be fair, almost everything that happens in my life reminds me of something from the Holy Grail. I really really need to watch this again as an adult lol. The “anarcho collective” bit did nothing for me as a 15 year old...but I’m laughing now. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 2, 2021 10:51:26 GMT -6
Personally, I like several Oasis songs. (What's The Story) Morning Glory? will always hold a dear place in my soul. I'm an American, and one of the difficult things for us to understand (this is all coming from a dear friend of mine who's a full time musician here in NC but is from England originally) is the serious role that class plays in all things British. The Oasis vs. Blur music battle is something that's difficult to understand for us as Americans, but (according to my friend) is felt deeply across the pond. Part of the rabid appeal of a band like Oasis is a class appeal: Oasis is the working class band, Blur is the upper class band. Part of rooting for Oasis is a class identification thing. I'm not trying to say that explains it all, but it's a piece that we often overlook in the US. Ours is a class struggle as well...it just gets confused as race. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Jan 2, 2021 11:12:40 GMT -6
Personally, I like several Oasis songs. (What's The Story) Morning Glory? will always hold a dear place in my soul. I'm an American, and one of the difficult things for us to understand (this is all coming from a dear friend of mine who's a full time musician here in NC but is from England originally) is the serious role that class plays in all things British. The Oasis vs. Blur music battle is something that's difficult to understand for us as Americans, but (according to my friend) is felt deeply across the pond. Part of the rabid appeal of a band like Oasis is a class appeal: Oasis is the working class band, Blur is the upper class band. Part of rooting for Oasis is a class identification thing. I'm not trying to say that explains it all, but it's a piece that we often overlook in the US. Ours is a class struggle as well...it just gets confused as race. Oh, ours is both class and race. But even that's not dissimilar to certain dynamics in the UK with regards to Scots or Irish or Welsh. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Jan 2, 2021 11:20:00 GMT -6
"Listen, strange women lyin' in ponds distributin' swords is no basis for a system of government."
So beautiful. And the way Dennis is watching Arthur while Arthur tells the story is so classic. He's looking at him like, "WTF is this guy talking about?"
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Post by EmRR on Jan 2, 2021 11:32:48 GMT -6
Ours is a class struggle as well...it just gets confused as race. Oh, ours is both class and race. But even that's not dissimilar to certain dynamics in the UK with regards to Scots or Irish or Welsh. Most of the US 'southern thing' is Scot versus Brit in origin, really, garbled/evolved and regurgitated. Much of the accent is Scots. Broadcast/Hollywood English is just a bastardization of Queens English in concept. |
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Post by svart on Jan 2, 2021 13:36:43 GMT -6
Brits spent ages sailing around the world and dominating cultures in the search of spices.
Now they have some of the blandest foods.
Not sure their tastes are to be trusted.
Lol
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Post by johneppstein on Jan 2, 2021 15:53:20 GMT -6
Just watching a completely staged, lip sync’d Liam Gallagher on NYE on the Tonight Show...and it was as bad as I thought it would be. Why is Oasis so beloved? I don’t get it. The Beatles IMO are the end all be all...but I listen to Oasis and think they’re a terrible Beatles tribute band. Wtf? Oasis has always resulted in the same responsde from me: " GUYS - you are NOT The Beatles, never have been The Beatles, never WILL BE The Beatles, could you please just hang it up, already? Hell, you're not even Badfinger!" |
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Post by johneppstein on Jan 2, 2021 15:56:47 GMT -6
I read the thread title and was wondering why the Brits would be talking about the TV show Shameless. I thought he was either streaming the Original BBC version or my in-laws. to John’s point why does New Kids on the Block still sell out arenas? Marketing. |
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Post by EmRR on Jan 2, 2021 16:57:28 GMT -6
Hell, you're not even Badfinger!" winner! |
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Post by gwlee7 on Jan 2, 2021 17:39:03 GMT -6
Hell, you're not even Badfinger!" winner! No matter what, you will not even be Badfinger. |
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Post by tkaitkai on Jan 3, 2021 16:29:59 GMT -6
Never got into Oasis (a little before my time), and I don't have much to contribute other than to say I actually really enjoyed one of the newer Liam Gallagher songs. Not groundbreaking or anything, but solid songwriting and composition. Of course, if you already hate Oasis, I doubt this will be the one to change your mind:
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 3, 2021 23:09:07 GMT -6
Well I think we can all agree that they are better than Nickleback.
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Post by Ward on Jan 4, 2021 19:19:49 GMT -6
Well I think we can all agree that they are better than Nickleback. No, sorry, we can't all agree on that. As distasteful as NB can be at times, they have a few redeeming graces . . . whereas Oasis are as vapid as the hollow shells left behind during the winter after the bamboo has rotted. There's just no going worse. |
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Post by theshea on Sept 3, 2024 4:29:18 GMT -6
lets put some hope in oasis for a change. maybe the reunion tour next year will be an injection to more people to pick up the guitar and play it!
in the popmusic cycle the rock/guitar‘s turn is looong overdue. no guitarbands in sight … oasis songs are easy to play, in reach for everyone and to my ears they are great. it was all about the songs and the attitude with oasis. and they are entertaining and funny in interviews. i miss that.
and the reaction to their reunion here in europe is big. so they def left a mark in music history. maybe not that much in the USaA.
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