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Post by stratboy on Dec 3, 2021 22:29:28 GMT -6
I am so looking forward to screening (hip film-biz lingo) this. Does anyone know if it's possible to subscribe to Disney+ just long enough to view it, then cancel my subscription? Is there any additional fee or hidden fees? Do I need the most expensive membership? I went to Disney+'s website, but in true Disney fashion, they don't reveal the pricing until you're in the sign-up process. Grrrr..... TIA, -09 Price for D+ only is $7.99/month. I bought it just for the Beatles, and am now watching The Mandalorian. I’ll catch some of my favorite Pixar flicks (Ratatouille, anyone?) and maybe some obscure Marvel flicks (Black Widow, Hawkeye) before I quit. I’ll let you know if it’s a pain to unsubscribe.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Dec 3, 2021 23:22:46 GMT -6
I am so looking forward to screening (hip film-biz lingo) this. Does anyone know if it's possible to subscribe to Disney+ just long enough to view it, then cancel my subscription? Is there any additional fee or hidden fees? Do I need the most expensive membership? I went to Disney+'s website, but in true Disney fashion, they don't reveal the pricing until you're in the sign-up process. Grrrr..... TIA, -09 Price for D+ only is $7.99/month. I bought it just for the Beatles, and am now watching The Mandalorian. I’ll catch some of my favorite Pixar flicks (Ratatouille, anyone?) and maybe some obscure Marvel flicks (Black Widow, Hawkeye) before I quit. I’ll let you know if it’s a pain to unsubscribe. If you're a sports fan, particularly a hockey fan, the Disney/ESPN/Hulu bundle is pretty good. I think that's still $7.99. ESPN+ is carrying all the NHL games this year so you get The Beatles, Star Wars, and ice hockey. That's pretty good in my world.
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Post by Omicron9 on Dec 4, 2021 8:38:26 GMT -6
I am so looking forward to screening (hip film-biz lingo) this. Does anyone know if it's possible to subscribe to Disney+ just long enough to view it, then cancel my subscription? Is there any additional fee or hidden fees? Do I need the most expensive membership? I went to Disney+'s website, but in true Disney fashion, they don't reveal the pricing until you're in the sign-up process. Grrrr..... TIA, -09 Price for D+ only is $7.99/month. I bought it just for the Beatles, and am now watching The Mandalorian. I’ll catch some of my favorite Pixar flicks (Ratatouille, anyone?) and maybe some obscure Marvel flicks (Black Widow, Hawkeye) before I quit. I’ll let you know if it’s a pain to unsubscribe. Cool; thanks, stratboy. I have Hulu and there are pricing plans for with/without commercials. I have the "without" version. Similar thing for Disney+ ? Thanks again, -09
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 25, 2021 14:18:50 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 25, 2021 14:54:45 GMT -6
It gives me hope, personally, how terrible the songs are up to the moment that they're great. Or the band will be just sounding pretty meh, but then John and Paul will start to sing together and it's like they've trotted out a secret weapon. And further to Paul's predicament, trying to keep the writing/rehearsing going, if we can take at face value his comment that John used to be a primary "boss" in the band, then you can start to imagine that John's more "checked out, free associating" schtick, while amusing, is a new(ish) hurdle for the band. John isn't attempting to give much direction or feedback, he's surprisingly mute in much of episode 1. You get the sense that Paul is suddenly the sole bandleader and that it hadn't been that way in the past. But it's tough to know, because until they really start working on Dig a Pony, you don't get much of a sense of how John's songs are arranged. All the tension and suckage is mostly around Paul's songs, and George wondering why he's there. I grew up a "John guy" like a lot of fans. And his work does speak to me more still. But what's striking is how Paul is just soooooooo freaking musical. This really comes out for me when he starts conjuring up Get Back, but in many other spots as well. And I don't mean that as a diss to the other Beatles, its actually related to why I prefer John, whose work is simpler and purer to my ear. I'm just saying this is a reminder of what a musical force PM is. And like many great musicians, he can do the thing, but I don't think he's that great at telling his bandmates what he thinks they should be doing. A lot of his direction feels really vague to me, but maybe it's cultural. I always thought of John’s songs as more complicated and Paul’s being simpler…like Across the Universe, Julia…
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Post by notneeson on Dec 25, 2021 20:47:52 GMT -6
It gives me hope, personally, how terrible the songs are up to the moment that they're great. Or the band will be just sounding pretty meh, but then John and Paul will start to sing together and it's like they've trotted out a secret weapon. And further to Paul's predicament, trying to keep the writing/rehearsing going, if we can take at face value his comment that John used to be a primary "boss" in the band, then you can start to imagine that John's more "checked out, free associating" schtick, while amusing, is a new(ish) hurdle for the band. John isn't attempting to give much direction or feedback, he's surprisingly mute in much of episode 1. You get the sense that Paul is suddenly the sole bandleader and that it hadn't been that way in the past. But it's tough to know, because until they really start working on Dig a Pony, you don't get much of a sense of how John's songs are arranged. All the tension and suckage is mostly around Paul's songs, and George wondering why he's there. I grew up a "John guy" like a lot of fans. And his work does speak to me more still. But what's striking is how Paul is just soooooooo freaking musical. This really comes out for me when he starts conjuring up Get Back, but in many other spots as well. And I don't mean that as a diss to the other Beatles, its actually related to why I prefer John, whose work is simpler and purer to my ear. I'm just saying this is a reminder of what a musical force PM is. And like many great musicians, he can do the thing, but I don't think he's that great at telling his bandmates what he thinks they should be doing. A lot of his direction feels really vague to me, but maybe it's cultural. I always thought of John’s songs as more complicated and Paul’s being simpler…like Across the Universe, Julia… That’s a good point, and two great examples. I just relate more to John’s work, it’s simple in its relatability, I suppose. Jealous Guy, is so honest.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 26, 2021 12:46:53 GMT -6
I always thought of John’s songs as more complicated and Paul’s being simpler…like Across the Universe, Julia… That’s a good point, and two great examples. I just relate more to John’s work, it’s simple in its relatability, I suppose. Jealous Guy, is so honest. Two master songwriters for sure. Somewhere in this doc (I think) Paul was talking about judging a song as boring if it didn’t surprise him in the first minute or so. And all of those dropped bars and extra bars in On My Way Home… At the beginning of my songwriting career I definitely tried to be different…I remember saying that to co-writers, “too stock…need something weird there…” or I’d get a “that chord’s too weird.” I finally got worn down like a rock in a river - because I wasn’t getting cuts anymore. Not a lot of room in modern country for dominant seven chords. Anyway, I went stock and still didn’t get more cuts lol. So it’s inspiring to watch this and hear that. Makes me want to get out of the rut.
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 26, 2021 17:15:14 GMT -6
You get the feeling, although they each had a huge repertoire , that they wrote originally, doing what they really felt? They trusted their abilities to suddenly make magic. But, thank god, Billy came by to say hi !
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 26, 2021 17:33:15 GMT -6
He takes a wonderfully positive view of their process. After being in bands for decades, I kind of disagree. I think Paul wanted to get down to work and he was good natured enough to go along with all the screwing around. I'd bet dollars to dimes they didn't do the same thing making Abbey Road. I think Paul asked them if they would would come in and make an album like they used to, as they all knew Get Back was a mess. I would imagine they knew it was their swansong and their being truly great artists, it became one of the the greatest albums of all time. No matter the circumstance, I think those guys getting together would have resulted in good songs. There are people that you just vibe with and the sum of the parts is better than anything alone…I know there are certain people I write extremely well with, but for whatever reason, it doesn’t happen anymore - getting together and writing that is. At certain points in your life you value freedom from bad relationships more than any positive aspect it might bring. Hindsight blurs that a lot.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 26, 2021 17:46:05 GMT -6
You get the feeling, although they each had a huge repertoire , that they wrote originally, doing what they really felt? They trusted their abilities to suddenly make magic. But, thank god, Billy came by to say hi ! I got a feeling, you're right most of the time John on this. Chris
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Post by Guitar on Dec 26, 2021 18:03:55 GMT -6
Just got through Episode 1. I'm really impressed with the camaraderie in the band. Mostly it seems like John Lennon is really the one defusing things, keeping it funny, being excited about playing. As much as he has a reputation for being dire and gloomy or whatever... he's damn funny and a damned good sport and seems like a friend to the band in general. You need someone like that around when Paul is bossing everyone around, George is getting butt hurt, and Ringo is just sort of adequately doing his part. I'm not impressed when people say nasty and mean spirited things about Yoko Ono. I think it reflects more on the person saying the things, than her. And possibly, in some cases, a negative attitude about women in general. But yeah, this is what the end of life stage of a band looks like, been there, done that. And I agree with Johnkenn even the best musical chemistry is not worth hanging around in toxic situations, or nasty people.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 26, 2021 19:07:39 GMT -6
You get the feeling, although they each had a huge repertoire , that they wrote originally, doing what they really felt? They trusted their abilities to suddenly make magic. But, thank god, Billy came by to say hi ! Ain’t that the truth
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Post by chessparov on Dec 26, 2021 19:08:46 GMT -6
Paul: "Hey guys" "Any ideas for the ending of Hey Jude?"
John: "Nah" George:"Nah" Ringo: "Nah".
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 26, 2021 19:15:11 GMT -6
Just got through Episode 1. I'm really impressed with the camaraderie in the band. Mostly it seems like John Lennon is really the one defusing things, keeping it funny, being excited about playing. As much as he has a reputation for being dire and gloomy or whatever... he's damn funny and a damned good sport and seems like a friend to the band in general. You need someone like that around when Paul is bossing everyone around, George is getting butt hurt, and Ringo is just sort of adequately doing his part. I'm not impressed when people say nasty and mean spirited things about Yoko Ono. I think it reflects more on the person saying the things, than her. And possibly, in some cases, a negative attitude about women in general. But yeah, this is what the end of life stage of a band looks like, been there, done that. And I agree with Johnkenn even the best musical chemistry is not worth hanging around in toxic situations, or nasty people. Well, I don’t think being opposed to a member of your longtime band suddenly demanding his new flame (that he cheated on his longtime wife with) be involved in every decision he makes immediately makes you “negative about women.” I wouldn’t have stood for it. I mean - more power to you if you’re p-whipped, but when I know my longtime friend is being heavily influenced to the point it’s ruining our friendship - it’s gonna be a problem. Not trying to be disrespectful of your opinion, Monkey, just saying that relationship was strange to say the least and I thought they all suffered it FAR better than most would have. It’s funny how we all see different things. I didn’t see Paul as being bossy at all. I saw him as being professional.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 26, 2021 19:15:29 GMT -6
Paul: "Hey guys" "Any ideas for the ending of Hey Jude?" John: "Nah" George:"Nah" Ringo: "Nah". That made me LOL. Should be a meme
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 26, 2021 19:25:33 GMT -6
Wait. It should have been about Let It Be.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 26, 2021 19:46:32 GMT -6
But John, that's SO... Yesterday. Chris
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Post by Guitar on Dec 26, 2021 19:50:11 GMT -6
No, it was Hey Jude, lol! Yeah there's a million ways to see the same thing, I respect that view too. I just think some things in pop culture get magnified and go too far, from what they really were.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 26, 2021 21:06:29 GMT -6
It's an understandable misunderstanding, regarding Yoko. When fans first learned of the Beatles breakup, their first reaction was... "O" "no!".
Due to the Global Time differences, the Japanese papers were hurriedly put out first. They all mistakenly had their headlines read... "Beatles Breakup!!" "Fans say Ono!". Chris
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Post by kyamcalvert on Dec 26, 2021 21:11:05 GMT -6
Playing in a band for 15 years and being a hardcore Beatles fan since birth, I really enjoyed watching them be best friends. Best friends and musical companions - really refreshing after decades of tabloid sensationalism. It was crazy how much I related to some of those moments...so easy to make joke songs and dick around, but sometimes getting real progress feels impossible. Then, some inspiration (Billy) and bam...we're rolling again. Just a fun watch. Loved how human and humble they were. They'll always be my favorite band.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 26, 2021 21:13:47 GMT -6
Well, I don’t think being opposed to a member of your longtime band suddenly demanding his new flame (that he cheated on his longtime wife with) be involved in every decision he makes immediately makes you “negative about women.” I wouldn’t have stood for it. I mean - more power to you if you’re p-whipped, but when I know my longtime friend is being heavily influenced to the point it’s ruining our friendship - it’s gonna be a problem. Not trying to be disrespectful of your opinion, Monkey, just saying that relationship was strange to say the least and I thought they all suffered it FAR better than most would have. It’s funny how we all see different things. I didn’t see Paul as being bossy at all. I saw him as being professional. I couldn't agree more. No matter what your feelings are about Yoko sitting with the band while they were trying to work, every human has energy and that energy is felt by others. Having someone uninvolved in the music creation sitting there changes the dynamics between them. I would have found it harder to focus with someone who really doesn't belong in a work session just hanging there, no matter how benevolent she may seem. It was a very odd thing, and it still is a very odd thing, and I don't mean it in any way that disparages women. I've worked professionally in just about every circumstance you can think of, but when it came to working on the music with others, it was members and invited musicians only, otherwise it would be a distraction. It's amazing how the band just got on with it, indulging their friend John diplomatically. I would have said sorry, but that's not gonna work for me. I'm not even referring to Yoko, but every time a girlfriend got involved in a band thing I was involved in, it was a disaster. They were simply always out of context.
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Post by Omicron9 on Dec 29, 2021 8:47:26 GMT -6
Greetings. I've finished all three installments and loved it. I found it to be fascinating, funny, sad, amazing, heartbreaking, enlightening, and more. I think for me the most surprising thing is the deep respect they all had for each other. I've heard/read so much about the Beatles fighting and all the tension, but it wasn't evident in Get Back. There were differences of opinion, but no one ever raised their voice. They were always polite and respectful no matter what. Yes, there were cameras present, but even in the hidden microphone conversation between John and Paul, it was the same approach of respect and no voices raised. When it was over, my initial thought was how sad it was that they couldn't continue. They clearly loved each other and had a magnificent artistic connection. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized that the breakup enabled each of them to pursue their own path; as solo entities they could now write and record whatever they wanted. There's no way to underestimate that kind of artistic freedom. This Wikipedia article brings more explanation and enlightenment: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Break-up_of_the_BeatlesRegards, -09
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