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Post by EmRR on Nov 30, 2021 20:55:29 GMT -6
All those brand new CBS Fender Silverface amps sound just fuckin’ fine.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Nov 30, 2021 20:58:29 GMT -6
All those brand new CBS Fender Silverface amps sound just fuckin’ fine. Pretty sure they took that Hammond out of its original packaging as well. That's a decent piano there too. No reason to be jealous though, I bang out goofy song ideas on a Bechstein too. Don't we all?
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Post by stratboy on Nov 30, 2021 20:59:37 GMT -6
Yoko's presence was much different. Linda showed up occasionally and stayed mostly during playback. Yoko was literally attached to John while the band were trying to work out parts and discussing the music and very personal matters too. It was unnerving and I'm with John, that would have lasted about one minute if I'd been in the room. Paul was incredibly accommodating and still he gets called out. I just finished Philip Norman’s biography of John Lennon. According to that book, Lennon was very insecure about and very in love with Yoko at that time. He insisted on having her constantly with him. She said that she was worried at the time that she would end up losing herself in her relationship with Lennon like she had with her first husband. They worked it out, but the film seemed to me consistent with Norman’s description; she was there because John wanted her to be. I thought it was really nice the way each of the Beatles accommodated their band mates’ idiosyncrasies. That’s how they lasted ten years instead of ten months.
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Post by EmRR on Nov 30, 2021 21:19:16 GMT -6
I like all the used sock and masking tape windscreens on mics.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Nov 30, 2021 21:29:14 GMT -6
I like all the used sock and masking tape windscreens on mics. I guess they didn't have Sweetwater.
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Post by EmRR on Nov 30, 2021 23:29:25 GMT -6
They like a windscreen that implies GET BACK.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Dec 1, 2021 0:02:30 GMT -6
They like a windscreen that implies GET BACK. I guess they spent all their money on German pianos and American amps. No money left over for pop filters. Maybe the idea was to keep John and Ringo awake?
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Post by wiz on Dec 1, 2021 0:25:33 GMT -6
Are the vocal mics km’s?
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Post by kcatthedog on Dec 1, 2021 0:31:07 GMT -6
Like any couple , J&Y’s relationship benefits from context: love the imaginary 5 bob and nail story.
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Post by professorplum on Dec 1, 2021 2:58:20 GMT -6
All those brand new CBS Fender Silverface amps sound just fuckin’ fine. I saw real quick shot of what looked like an enormous early fuzz pedal. Anyone looked into any pedals they were using during these sessions? Some of it sounds like a cranked Fender but others sound a little too dirty for straight into amp...
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Post by Ward on Dec 1, 2021 7:27:57 GMT -6
People diss Yoko, but she was a great artist in her own right. Lennon had huge respect for her as an artist. I've heard her 'sing'. But yes, your other points are very good, and made me think. You win, gent who shares my youngest son's name! Thank you, for the straightener.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 1, 2021 9:18:00 GMT -6
What were those little mics they were singing into?
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Post by timcampbell on Dec 1, 2021 11:01:25 GMT -6
As been mentioned here before I believe you mean the tiny capsule end of AKG C30 microphones. They are AKG C28 tube mics with long extention tubes so that they look better on camera. The preamps are low down by the floor. I have one. They are AKG C12's will sdc capsules. With the C28 capsule they sound brilliant.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Dec 1, 2021 17:37:27 GMT -6
Thanks Tim, that's good to know.
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Post by notneeson on Dec 2, 2021 9:35:07 GMT -6
It gives me hope, personally, how terrible the songs are up to the moment that they're great.
Or the band will be just sounding pretty meh, but then John and Paul will start to sing together and it's like they've trotted out a secret weapon.
And further to Paul's predicament, trying to keep the writing/rehearsing going, if we can take at face value his comment that John used to be a primary "boss" in the band, then you can start to imagine that John's more "checked out, free associating" schtick, while amusing, is a new(ish) hurdle for the band. John isn't attempting to give much direction or feedback, he's surprisingly mute in much of episode 1. You get the sense that Paul is suddenly the sole bandleader and that it hadn't been that way in the past. But it's tough to know, because until they really start working on Dig a Pony, you don't get much of a sense of how John's songs are arranged. All the tension and suckage is mostly around Paul's songs, and George wondering why he's there.
I grew up a "John guy" like a lot of fans. And his work does speak to me more still. But what's striking is how Paul is just soooooooo freaking musical. This really comes out for me when he starts conjuring up Get Back, but in many other spots as well. And I don't mean that as a diss to the other Beatles, its actually related to why I prefer John, whose work is simpler and purer to my ear. I'm just saying this is a reminder of what a musical force PM is. And like many great musicians, he can do the thing, but I don't think he's that great at telling his bandmates what he thinks they should be doing. A lot of his direction feels really vague to me, but maybe it's cultural.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Dec 2, 2021 10:34:18 GMT -6
It gives me hope, personally, how terrible the songs are up to the moment that they're great. Totally! Me too. In fact, I love listening to outtakes and early releases from other artists like Bob Dylan and whoever else for the same reason. But yeah, on the Get Back documentary I'm watching it and thinking "this song totally sucks, but I know it's eventually going to be awesome." The thing I've learned from being obsessed with listening to unfinished versions of famous songs over the years is that the great ones NEVER give up until the song is amazing. Whereas I think some of us mere mortals are too quick to just be done. You wanna hear something terrible? Listen to the early versions of Like A Rolling Stone. I can't believe they didn't just give up and move to a different song. It's a total mess. Then finally there's a take that's like "ok, that's not bad." Then one that's like "yes, now I'm listening, you have my attention." And then the next one is like "holy shit, this is amazing!"
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Post by ulriggribbons on Dec 2, 2021 11:00:05 GMT -6
As much as I geek over the tech, and the band interactions, ultimately what nails me to the floor is how happy they are when playing, all the many distractions fall away, they find the magic within each other and are able to ride it to amazing performances.
Something I've been chasing for a lifetime, and when I hit it, the joy and flood of emotion make my heart to burst, and I can't maintain it.
ju
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Post by phantom on Dec 3, 2021 4:48:38 GMT -6
It gives me hope, personally, how terrible the songs are up to the moment that they're great. Totally! Me too. In fact, I love listening to outtakes and early releases from other artists like Bob Dylan and whoever else for the same reason. But yeah, on the Get Back documentary I'm watching it and thinking "this song totally sucks, but I know it's eventually going to be awesome." The thing I've learned from being obsessed with listening to unfinished versions of famous songs over the years is that the great ones NEVER give up until the song is amazing. Whereas I think some of us mere mortals are too quick to just be done. You wanna hear something terrible? Listen to the early versions of Like A Rolling Stone. I can't believe they didn't just give up and move to a different song. It's a total mess. Then finally there's a take that's like "ok, that's not bad." Then one that's like "yes, now I'm listening, you have my attention." And then the next one is like "holy shit, this is amazing! Like a Rolling Stone was sent by God. Al Kooper, on the organ, had never played the instrument before. He was a guitar player and just wanted to play with Bob Dylan, so he sneaked in to the organ. Ended up being one the most important instrument on the song. Sometimes it's magic, man, nothing rational.
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Post by srb on Dec 3, 2021 8:48:21 GMT -6
Totally! Me too. In fact, I love listening to outtakes and early releases from other artists like Bob Dylan and whoever else for the same reason. But yeah, on the Get Back documentary I'm watching it and thinking "this song totally sucks, but I know it's eventually going to be awesome." The thing I've learned from being obsessed with listening to unfinished versions of famous songs over the years is that the great ones NEVER give up until the song is amazing. Whereas I think some of us mere mortals are too quick to just be done. You wanna hear something terrible? Listen to the early versions of Like A Rolling Stone. I can't believe they didn't just give up and move to a different song. It's a total mess. Then finally there's a take that's like "ok, that's not bad." Then one that's like "yes, now I'm listening, you have my attention." And then the next one is like "holy shit, this is amazing! Like a Rolling Stone was sent by God. Al Kooper, on the organ, had never played the instrument before. He was a guitar player and just wanted to play with Bob Dylan, so he sneaked in to the organ. Ended up being one the most important instrument on the song. Sometimes it's magic, man, nothing rational. Kooper's book, "Backstage Passes and Backstabbing Bastards" is a must read.
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Post by notneeson on Dec 3, 2021 9:19:20 GMT -6
Like a Rolling Stone was sent by God. Al Kooper, on the organ, had never played the instrument before. He was a guitar player and just wanted to play with Bob Dylan, so he sneaked in to the organ. Ended up being one the most important instrument on the song. Sometimes it's magic, man, nothing rational. Kooper's book, "Backstage Passes and Backstabbing Bastards" is a must read. His Fresh Air interview is great too, for a more bite sized version.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Dec 3, 2021 9:34:01 GMT -6
Totally! Me too. In fact, I love listening to outtakes and early releases from other artists like Bob Dylan and whoever else for the same reason. But yeah, on the Get Back documentary I'm watching it and thinking "this song totally sucks, but I know it's eventually going to be awesome." The thing I've learned from being obsessed with listening to unfinished versions of famous songs over the years is that the great ones NEVER give up until the song is amazing. Whereas I think some of us mere mortals are too quick to just be done. You wanna hear something terrible? Listen to the early versions of Like A Rolling Stone. I can't believe they didn't just give up and move to a different song. It's a total mess. Then finally there's a take that's like "ok, that's not bad." Then one that's like "yes, now I'm listening, you have my attention." And then the next one is like "holy shit, this is amazing! Like a Rolling Stone was sent by God. Al Kooper, on the organ, had never played the instrument before. He was a guitar player and just wanted to play with Bob Dylan, so he sneaked in to the organ. Ended up being one the most important instrument on the song. Sometimes it's magic, man, nothing rational. I can't remember which one, but one of the Bootleg Series' collections has multiple takes of the song as well as the bus channels on the final. It's completely fascinating. For example, that electric guitar you're hearing (which sounds almost like a baritone?) is on the same bus as the vocal and is getting ducked by the vocal. Once you hear it you can't unhear it. Things like that add so much energy to the song. Actually, the entire song is constantly pumping and ducking in and out. It's like the most extreme version of Brauerizing before that became a "thing". Everything was "Braerizied" because you only had 8 channels to begin with. I highly recommend listening to the stems and then going back and listening to the whole song, it's really eye(ear)-opening.
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Post by Quint on Dec 3, 2021 11:21:55 GMT -6
Anybody notice that Alan Parsons was the tape op for these sessions?
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Post by Tbone81 on Dec 3, 2021 11:34:16 GMT -6
Anybody notice that Alan Parsons was the tape op for these sessions? Right? That was a holy shit moment for me. So much audio royalty on those sessions. It's kind of like in cinema with the American Zeotrope (Francis Ford Coppola, Speilberg, Lucas) connection that nurtured so many great film makers.
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Post by Omicron9 on Dec 3, 2021 11:47:35 GMT -6
I am so looking forward to screening (hip film-biz lingo) this. Does anyone know if it's possible to subscribe to Disney+ just long enough to view it, then cancel my subscription? Is there any additional fee or hidden fees? Do I need the most expensive membership? I went to Disney+'s website, but in true Disney fashion, they don't reveal the pricing until you're in the sign-up process. Grrrr.....
TIA, -09
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Post by christopher on Dec 3, 2021 13:19:28 GMT -6
My wife says we get it free from Verison as part of our unlimited plan. She finds deals, she also got us Apple music free when we switched from ATT. Might be worth checking into
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