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Post by aremos on Dec 3, 2020 20:38:54 GMT -6
Actually I was trying to upload a picture of a certain mic but it didn't come out
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Post by EmRR on Dec 3, 2020 20:50:20 GMT -6
My Gefell UMT70S gets a lot more 'magic' on vocals through an older slower tube pre, usually a Gates SA something here (Coil CA-70 is the new version). A UMT71 cardioid only might be a good move for an M7 type 'no argument' vocal mic for a lot of people. I bet it still beats a Warm/etc in many ways.
The thing with ribbons is a ribbon job costs the same whether it's a $200 mic or a $2K mic, it's worth spending up for better ones.
Some omni SDC's with folk may be real handy, you may like them more than cardioids real close on acoustics, basses, etc.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 3, 2020 21:01:38 GMT -6
Period. Chris
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Post by drbill on Dec 4, 2020 0:14:04 GMT -6
A UMT71 cardioid only might be a good move for an M7 type 'no argument' vocal mic for a lot of people. Yes, the UM (non T) is a killer mic for a lot of folks, and I'm sure the T is as well. You have to get right up on them though, or they tend to sound wimpy on vox.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 4, 2020 1:10:40 GMT -6
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Post by Ward on Dec 4, 2020 6:52:20 GMT -6
I think it was the post of the year at first . . . a coded way for Ariel to say "here's let me make a point", since the thread has derailed so much it started in the state of Georgia and now is in the Georgian Republic.
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Post by EmRR on Dec 4, 2020 11:17:02 GMT -6
A UMT71 cardioid only might be a good move for an M7 type 'no argument' vocal mic for a lot of people. Yes, the UM (non T) is a killer mic for a lot of folks, and I'm sure the T is as well. You have to get right up on them though, or they tend to sound wimpy on vox.Yep, you can call it a feature with people who want to eat the mic.
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Post by Guitar on Dec 4, 2020 17:30:07 GMT -6
Cool thread. I wouldn't be too scared of a tube microphone. Something with a 6072A for example, wouldn't be too expensive or difficult to keep running.
I think M88TG / RE20 / MD441 (pick one) and maybe an SM7B for voice is also a good recommendation. Although maybe not the big ballad voice sound you're after. Just good mics.
If you're worried about ribbons, maybe try one of the Shure mics with the Roswellite heavy duty ribbons. They are supposed to be strangely durable, for a ribbon mic. I haven't heard them.
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Post by dagogo on Dec 4, 2020 17:50:34 GMT -6
I also thought tube microphone.
Never tried but what about that Luke audio one...the one that comes with 3 heads...isn't that $1kish?
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Post by gwlee7 on Dec 4, 2020 18:33:44 GMT -6
Cool thread. I wouldn't be too scared of a tube microphone. Something with a 6072A for example, wouldn't be too expensive or difficult to keep running. I think M88TG / RE20 / MD441 (pick one) and maybe an SM7B for voice is also a good recommendation. Although maybe not the big ballad voice sound you're after. Just good mics. If you're worried about ribbons, maybe try one of the Shure mics with the Roswellite heavy duty ribbons. They are supposed to be strangely durable, for a ribbon mic. I haven't heard them. I have a KSM 313 and it a great mic. One side is a little brighter than the other on purpose.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Dec 4, 2020 21:14:23 GMT -6
I think M88TG / RE20 / MD441 (pick one) and maybe an SM7B for voice is also a good recommendation. Although maybe not the big ballad voice sound you're after. Just good mics. The RE320 I have definitely covers that RE20/SM7 vibe. Love that mic!
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Post by plinker on Dec 4, 2020 22:08:34 GMT -6
I just ordered the JZ Amethyst to complement the v67.
Here's a great A/B with the v67 :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1ypMGjcvXA
Perhaps, the Amethyst is the sound you're looking for? It has a lot more proximity affect than the v67. I think if you used that proximity and compressed it, you'd probably get a lot closer to the vocal you seek.
Good luck.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Dec 5, 2020 0:14:57 GMT -6
I just ordered the JZ Amethyst to complement the v67. Perhaps, the Amethyst is the sound you're looking for? It has a lot more proximity affect than the v67. I think if you used that proximity and compressed it, you'd probably get a lot closer to the vocal you seek. Good luck. plinker - I actually had the Amethyst when it was under the 'Violet' brand. I went through two that were both defective with the same issue. Sound wasn't really for me, though it couldve been I wasn't hearing it the way it was supposed to sound due to aforementioned issues. It seems their QC is a lot better now that they're streamlining the brands to be just JZ.
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Post by ericn on Dec 5, 2020 9:53:36 GMT -6
He did get right to the point, period.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 5, 2020 20:14:08 GMT -6
Sales tax. Gas tax. Syntax. Chris
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Post by dagogo on Dec 5, 2020 23:34:31 GMT -6
Man, I think you should buy a tube mic. You have a lot of nice stuff...with all of that I can't believe you don't own a tube mic(!)...especially considering the artists you mentioned in your initial post.
I was listening to a lot of music today while doing a project...lounge, folk, rock, jazz...lots of nice vocals...and probably 98% sung into a nice tube mic.
It's not a big deal. I have owned several with no issues. There are so many options these days...get a good one and it will be good:)
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 5, 2020 23:47:16 GMT -6
He did get right to the point, period. Period. Point.
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Post by johneppstein on Dec 5, 2020 23:52:31 GMT -6
I've never had a problem with either of my (Pearlman) TM-1s. Except the threads on one iso mount, that is. Or any other tube mic, for that matter.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Dec 6, 2020 0:46:39 GMT -6
Man, I think you should buy a tube mic. You have a lot of nice stuff...with all of that I can't believe you don't own a tube mic(!)...especially considering the artists you mentioned in your initial post. I actually have had a few tube mics over the years. Most pricey was $1000. Its probably just a matter of 'leveling up' - I had the same moment of realization with monitors, interface, etc - sometimes you just gotta pay for that extra 7% of 'quality' for certain things. I just don't wanna pay. Ha!
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Post by tkaitkai on Dec 6, 2020 4:20:30 GMT -6
jacobamerrittI don't think you have to pay crazy money to get into U47-ish territory. There are some serious bang-for-your-buck options out there like the GAP 47, Peluso 2247, Signal Art, and the aforementioned Pearlman. Even the WA47 is a nice mic. None are identical to a U47, but they're all awesome on their own. I saw a 2247 on Reverb the other day for $1000 and I almost snagged it, but someone else got it first.
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Post by stormymondays on Dec 6, 2020 4:25:40 GMT -6
The Vanguard tube mic is supposed to be pretty great.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 6, 2020 9:33:34 GMT -6
2 other cool tube vocal mics... Are the Lewitt 840, and the 940-that allows a Tube/FET choice. FWIW I remember reading that Alan Parsons particularly likes the 940, for it's flexibility. Chris
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Post by plinker on Dec 6, 2020 10:49:32 GMT -6
2 other cool tube vocal mics... Are the Lewitt 840, and the 940-that allows a Tube/FET choice. FWIW I remember reading that Alan Parsons particularly likes the 940, for it's flexibility. Chris I've heard samples of the 840 and am very impressed. It sounds great, has super low-noise (9 dB (A)), especially for a tube mic, and an excellent price.
As soon as they re-design the looks of it, I'm certainly picking one up.
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Post by chessparov on Dec 6, 2020 14:57:26 GMT -6
FWIW my taste must be very similar to Alan Parsons (and Bruce Swedien-U47 FET anyone?). I also like AT4050's quite a bit too, ala Alan and Bruce (RIP). Chris
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Post by jacobamerritt on Dec 6, 2020 17:27:52 GMT -6
I've heard samples of the 840 and am very impressed. It sounds great, has super low-noise (9 dB (A)), especially for a tube mic, and an excellent price.
As soon as they re-design the looks of it, I'm certainly picking one up.
Yeah. The looks of the Lewitt really deter me ALOT. Looks like something that would be on Darth Vader's belt in the worst possible way. I prefer my mics to look like a piece of scrap from the Millenium Falcon. tkaitkai - Those options are things Ive considered. Just not sure they will have that extra 'magic' that I don't have. stormymondays - If I didn't have a pair of V4s already Id be tempted.
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