Neumann U67 and Shannon Rhoades modded CV4

There is a bit of difference in the upper mids. The CV4 has a little nasal trail off on the "ings" sounds. The U67 has a bit more of a "chesty" sound. Otherwise, i'd rather refrain from saying that either one sounds like the other, I'd rather say that both sound plenty good enough to do anything you need. Sweep the EQ on the CV4 and kill the nasal sound and give it a little low mids and you'd have a pretty good match.

Either that or because they were different takes they can sound completely different. I'd say that if I didn't already know that these were tracks from different mics, I would probably just say that they were different takes from the same mic with the artist standing a little differently.

So lemme ask you this.. why did you expect them to be that different? Most mics of good quality that have similar circuits tend to sound very similar. Even mics of somewhat different design sound pretty similar in most cases, whether people want to admit it or not.  This pair is a couple of tube mics using K67 capsules and similar tube circuits with similar transformers are just gonna sound similar. I mean, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, etc, etc.

John, is Svart being your wet blanket?

poo poo svart lol! Honestly, i don't understand what your hearing? but my ears are telling me that 67 sounds killer, beefy, warm and the top is sweet and smooth! nice mic Cowboy!(i still wanna know how much $!!) 

John, the 67 makes you sound like a sexy man bro lol, the CV4 is nice, but it's top sounds frozen in contrast to that warm buttery top of the 67. As always, jmears

sorry bro.

I just listened again, now i like the cv4!

NO! i'm just kidding  the other thing thats very evident, is the smooth dynamics of the 67 as compared to the cv4, was the sta- set the same for both?

just listen to the s's and sh's, the 67 is bad ass!

edit; not trying to take away from the cv4, it is totally a great mic and completely usable, but id bet the farm that the 67 will take eq great, and sit where ever you put it really well, you can just hear it...right?

Added an EQ'd version of the CV4 in the first post. Like I said - I agree that that 67 is phenomenal - and if you guys buy enough t-shirts, I too can have one...but for the time being, I'm fucking THRILLED with the sound of this CV4. This mic came NOWHERE near this before this mod.

I agree that it's great, Tony...but come on, man...we're splitting MAJOR hairs here. I could run another pass with 2db up t 10khz...but...it's good enough for me.

i like them both. You should definitely do a blind, and try to make me like the cv4 better, only deal is, you have to leave the 67 alone. i'll give you a totally honest answer to which i like better, i hope it is the CV4, it would speak to your knowing how to deal with your voice(as i already know u do), and also give hope to us poor bastards who will never afford an original U67. 

either way, couple of great sounding mics there. love the wylder avatar btw 8)

Hey I like both, I have to say I'm surprised, And never was the intention, only one thing was set out to do was Johns mic compliment his voice, in fact nicely . Im happy to hear the clips. the goal was not crush or make u67. Only was focusing in on what works for him.. Although kewl as hell All in all yea I think the u67 has a that texture, but dam to hear side by side. Almost makes me wonder if I should do a Mach up to just do only that sound as close to a u67 as possible, we all know the politics of that bs though no 2 sound the same no 2 agree what u67 sounds like, and no 2 will agree. Yet the simplicity of taking the most that common traits and put in one. just seeing the input of everyone above and kinda using it as a guage, I think might have to do that. You got to admit for most, not listening to things without touching knobs. Or get busted being on the " whore " form that involves gear at all hours of the day along with most willing to refinance the house for a new pc of studio gear and already have a justifiable answer for how and why u need it and how to pay it off to anyone dumb enough to question your decision of a new mic or mic pre or even plugins,. Would say it is or close without setting out to do that.

With that being said cowboys mic is one of the Mics on my top u67 best list as well a U67 that belongs to someone on this forum, I don't think he will be upset if say his name aka "littlesicily". And yes Mcbride has the rest on my imaginary wish list of u67s. There are only bout 7-10 Mics on that list and 2 of them on here. I have been very blessed to listen so many Mics well into the 100's of Just U67's alone.

at the end of the day or week or month most of us are all about Show me the money or where the hell it went. Even more reason to attempt a u67 machup not everyone can afford 67 

John, how do you set the pattern on the CV4?

I was listening to some early Jackson Browne last night - and there it was...sounds like it's Cowboy's 67 straight into the board...it's definitely THE sound...

Anyway, yesterday, Herbie mentioned how we always used to ask how the big studios get THAT sound...and that's how - a fantastic vintage mic(s). That's definitely the truth - the mic is THE most important piece of the chain...After I sang through it I was telling him, "maybe I should sell x,y,z and just invest in a vintage mic..." But after listening, I don't think that's the right move for me. IMHO, the improvement in quality isn't worth selling off my entire signal chain to buy a vintage mic that might never be as good as the one Herbie got. One day I definitely want to add one, but I'm really happy with what I've got right now...