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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 19, 2014 20:34:44 GMT -6
what happens when you cut polystyrene? is it like when you cut stiff plastic, and you get all this shredded stuff stuck to your blade and the material? Wood is easy to sand. Plastic, not so much. honestly, i've never cut it, but my brother says a saw blade goes through it like butter, i believe him as he uses it frequently. I figured guys would like it cause it's light and cheap, but i'm down for what ever you guys choose, I'm definitely going to use the cedar for my project, smells nice, looks cool. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 19, 2014 21:57:58 GMT -6
I dismantled my acoustical failure today...I hammer to my buck-toothed diffuser...
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Post by keymod on Apr 20, 2014 4:16:43 GMT -6
I'd want the cedar
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 24, 2014 14:55:06 GMT -6
Hey Fella's, the polystyrene is out, too much $, so it looks like cedar @ 1 3/4"x 1 3/4" is gonna be the ticket if there are no objections? I've got to figure weight and shipping costs, and i'll present a total.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 24, 2014 15:08:48 GMT -6
I'd like to see the difference in cost between the cedar and the cheapo doug fir. Total cost cut, bagged, labor, shipped - 02912.
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 24, 2014 15:19:26 GMT -6
I'd like to see the difference in cost between the cedar and the cheapo doug fir. Total cost cut, bagged, labor, shipped - 02912. will do, the 1.5" won't be as effective down low as the 1.75", 1.75" won't be as effective down low as the 2", not a big deal though. What is a big deal is the 1.5's vary out of square, the cedar is SUPPOSED to be exactly square, if i need to rip one side on the doug fir to even it up, it's not going to be worth it. could be the same deal with the Cedar, but i doubt it, it's coming from a high end supplier named JW Redwood out here in Cali, IME they are always a (pinky in corner of lip) "cut above the rest" 8) |
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Post by indiehouse on Apr 25, 2014 22:01:08 GMT -6
I'd be interested in the cedar kits. Shoot me a price when you get it sorted out? (zip code 43224). Looks awesome!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 30, 2014 13:05:25 GMT -6
Bump?
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 30, 2014 13:48:33 GMT -6
OK, here's the deal, remember, this is semi DIY (this does not include the 1/4" back board, you need to get that at your local depot/lowes, it'll cost $5, and they'll usually cut it to size for free, or $2 or something?, you can get that when you buy your glue and mounting hardware) 7 cedar sticks at $6+ tax=$45.00 Shipping at 25lbs will be about $30.00(i will verify this today) Full accounting of my time and expenditures, I need to drive 30 mile round trip to woodyard, pick out the nicer sticks, 14" mitre saw to size on the order of 144 cuts per order, use my electricity, buy a new chop blade, buy boxes, packing tape, labels, pack, address and drive to drop ship. I'll put a printable layout and some basic directions for assembly post on this thread. this should yield a stellar looking and performing BBC QRD, if you have no ability to construct one of these, and you need me to do it for you at a cost, PM me and i'll see what i can do. if you're a go on this, pm me, and i'll give you my paypal account, and you can use the "I'm sending money to family or friends" option, not goods and services, i'm not a business, and this is a non profit event. It'll save fee's, and i wont have to answer to the taxman. I think all things considered, $125.00 an order seems like it'll keep me from spending my own $, and not much more. let me know what you think Fella's T btw, you could always go this more $ route, but in all honesty, it'll look and smell like shit next to a real cedar rig IMO... www.fullcompass.com/product/285977.html?utm_source=googleps&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=googleps&gclid=COu-kp38iL4CFcuVfgod_YgApQ |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Apr 30, 2014 14:21:48 GMT -6
How about the pine? Is that an option too?
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Post by tonycamphd on Apr 30, 2014 14:30:12 GMT -6
How about the pine? Is that an option too? the pine is going to be approximately 1 1/2" x 1 5/8" (ending up a 1/4" smaller than the cedar) and it can vary worse than that, to get even close to the quality of the finished QRD in cedar, it will require me squaring up the material, which is a table saw rip cutting nightmare of a job. If guys don't care about the end product looking a little shoddy, i'll chop up anything you want, but i'm not going to be putting my digits 1 1/2" away from a table saw blade ripping sticks, i like my fingers where they are lol. T |
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Post by lolo on May 1, 2014 3:35:23 GMT -6
H. Still interested in this. So one box is one diffusor. How big does the backboard need to be tonycamphd?. Planning on building stands. And not sure if i should go for 2 or 3. What about shipping to Australia? |
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Post by keymod on May 1, 2014 3:56:28 GMT -6
I'd like one in cedar. Is it a definite go?
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Post by tonycamphd on May 1, 2014 9:06:45 GMT -6
H. Still interested in this. So one box is one diffusor. How big does the backboard need to be tonycamphd?. Planning on building stands. And not sure if i should go for 2 or 3. What about shipping to Australia? hi lolo, yes, one box is one diffusor, the backboard should be exactly 21" square, i'll check it out when i go to the post office today and let you know what the shipping is. I'm finishing off my stands today actually, i'm putting absorbers on the backside. T |
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Post by lolo on May 1, 2014 9:11:12 GMT -6
Please post some pics when your done of both sides
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Post by tonycamphd on May 1, 2014 9:14:56 GMT -6
I'd like one in cedar. Is it a definite go? cool, yeah, we'll make it happen key, we just need to get as many orders in as possible, i don't want to have to multiple runs for cedar stock, tool set up multiple times, it'd be good to get somewhere between 5-10 units ordered up so I can try to be efficient with this. |
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2014 23:42:27 GMT -6
bump
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Post by Johnkenn on May 9, 2014 20:02:55 GMT -6
Sorry - haven't read through the whole thread, but how much is it, Tony?
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Post by tonycamphd on May 9, 2014 21:41:50 GMT -6
Sorry - haven't read through the whole thread, but how much is it, Tony? Check the lead post JK, it seems peeps lost interest maybe? I'm making some crazy ones for myself and @matkatmusic , so i have no problem with a minimum amount of peeps ordering them, but when i'm done, i'm done, i won't put myself through this again, they really work well, and as you'd expect, the more you have the better, up to 6 units then you have to build an inverse, but 6 is awesome in a mid size room. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 9, 2014 21:48:06 GMT -6
Kind of like buying a bunch of T-shirts and no one buying them...
I keed I keed
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Post by tonycamphd on May 9, 2014 22:35:32 GMT -6
you keed, but your totally right on man.
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Post by keymod on May 11, 2014 3:58:18 GMT -6
Sorry - haven't read through the whole thread, but how much is it, Tony? Check the lead post JK, it seems peeps lost interest maybe? I'm making some crazy ones for myself and @matkatmusic , so i have no problem with a minimum amount of peeps ordering them, but when i'm done, i'm done, i won't put myself through this again, they really work well, and as you'd expect, the more you have the better, up to 6 units then you have to build an inverse, but 6 is awesome in a mid size room. Don't forget that I want at least one in cedar |
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 12, 2014 7:33:51 GMT -6
Hey tonycamphd, how versed are you in acoustic treatment? When should I reach for these diffusers over absorption? How many of these would you want in a room? I can't imagine that 1 will do much of anything right? 6 of these guys will run a serious chunk of change though and cost a bunch more than absorption alone. Any tips or advice? Maybe even pop open a new thread if you think that's the move. |
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Post by tonycamphd on May 12, 2014 8:38:57 GMT -6
jcoutu1 First let me state, I am not an Acoustician, but i do consider myself pretty knowledgeable in a real world sense when it comes to construction, soundproofing and acoustics. So to answer your question to the best of my ability, yes they are effective(even as a single), but they are best suited in an area you can take advantage of them from a proximity perspective, or set up as a gobos. I have my 6 set up as rolling absorbofussors(diffusors on one side and absorbers on the other), it's funny you brought this up, i have been thinking/working on this a ton lately, and was going to/will start a thread on the importance of room acoustics and the ideas that go along with it. IMO the best piece of gear you could ever buy is getting your room together acoustically, it will make every single piece of gear in your studio sound significantly better. As far as costs? We spend $2k at the drop of a hat on a piece of gear, chances are good that the acoustics in your room will facilitate a much better improvement in your results than any 10 pieces of gear imo. A couple things you mentioned here before i start that other thread would be, i WAY prefer diffusion over absorption, absorption is best used for bass(trapping) issues, generally smaller rooms require more absorption than diffusion at higher SPL levels, but if your recording acoustic guitars, forget about absorbing, get diffusors happening, and get rid of your CARPET(i've NEVER heard a room sound good with wall to wall carpet in it), and absorb the ceiling right above your immediate recording area. We'll go nutz talking about it in the new thread, i'll start it within a few days, should be fun!
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 12, 2014 9:03:41 GMT -6
jcoutu1 First let me state, I am not an Acoustician, but i do consider myself pretty knowledgeable in a real world sense when it comes to construction, soundproofing and acoustics. So to answer your question to the best of my ability, yes they are effective(even as a single), but they are best suited in an area you can take advantage of them from a proximity perspective, or set up as a gobos. I have my 6 set up as rolling absorbofussors(diffusors on one side and absorbers on the other), it's funny you brought this up, i have been thinking/working on this a ton lately, and was going to/will start a thread on the importance of room acoustics and the ideas that go along with it. IMO the best piece of gear you could ever buy is getting your room together acoustically, it will make every single piece of gear in your studio sound significantly better, as far as costs? We spend $2k at the drop of a hat on a piece of gear, chances are good that the acoustics in your room will facilitate a much better improvement in your results than any 10 pieces of gear imo. A couple things you mentioned here before i start that other thread would be, i WAY prefer diffusion over absorption, absorption is best used for bass(trapping) issues, generally smaller rooms require more absorption than diffusion at higher SPL levels, but if your recording acoustic guitars, forget about absorbing, get diffusors happening, and get rid of your CARPET, i've NEVER heard a room sound good with wall to wall carpet in it. We'll go nutz talking about it in the new thread, i'll start it within a few days, should be fun! I've been totally in flux over the past year and a half with my space. Had a baby which clamped down our space, have a second on the way, but now we're taking over the second side of our (loosly termed) duplex. Taking over the second side should give us the space we need for the kids, open up my mix room a bit, and give my wife her craft space. Getting my room opened up will allow for me to get positioned a bit better, although not ideal, and allow for better room treatment. I'm just at a bit of a loss on what I'll need to do to get the most out of the space. |
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