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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 27, 2014 16:30:35 GMT -6
Just thinking about getting some more Missing Links or 2 VP28's or another Heider. I've had the ML's before, but had to sell due to unforseen issues...I've been wanting them back since they left. Anyway, I love having the HI Cut on the ML's...but wondering if two more pres would be smarter...or maybe another Heider. Wondering if the Heider would be much different. Any thoughts?
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Post by deehope on Mar 27, 2014 18:10:12 GMT -6
I don't record any of my pres unless they're followed by a ML
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Post by mulmany on Mar 27, 2014 20:20:14 GMT -6
I am running all my mixes through two Vp28's. Mastering engineer was really impressed with the last album I sent to him. I really like what they do to everything, vox, Ac GTR, Elec....
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Post by jeromemason on Mar 27, 2014 21:57:21 GMT -6
I've been wanting to do this for a while..... I'd love to go Summing Box>VP28's>ML>Sparrow II....... I dream about the sound I would have with that rig. All my damn money is going into plugins right now though.
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Post by tasteliketape on Mar 27, 2014 22:12:19 GMT -6
Shadow hill summing (IRON NICKEL STEEL MY CHOICE) / ML / rosetta 200 Sweet set up
also just ran a few tracks that had vocal an acoustic gtr on same track through inward connections teq1 eq/sta level/ Missing links
the Missing links added just the right final mojo (jmo) same on the summing
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Post by littlesicily on Mar 27, 2014 22:47:42 GMT -6
I run mixes thru VP28 all the time.
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Post by lolo on Mar 27, 2014 23:21:51 GMT -6
Also run my mixes through VP28's. Love them.
I do find they add a little hiss though.
Normally just run the gain at unity and fader at 8. Sometimes gain +2 and fader 1 down. Thats when it adds more hiss
What do you guys do i.t.o gain and fader for 2 Buss?
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Post by joey808 on Mar 27, 2014 23:51:34 GMT -6
Im running mine through the VP28 then into my AML ez1073's, this was recommended to me by Dr Bill and it sounds awesome.
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Post by drbill on Mar 28, 2014 1:07:26 GMT -6
Im running mine through the VP28 then into my AML ez1073's, this was recommended to me by Dr Bill and it sounds awesome. it does sound good. But I have moved on to a new product that is more ergonomically suited for the job at hand. The 1073's and 28's now get to be used by mics again....  |
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Post by mulmany on Mar 28, 2014 7:32:20 GMT -6
Im running mine through the VP28 then into my AML ez1073's, this was recommended to me by Dr Bill and it sounds awesome. it does sound good. Â But I have moved on to a new product that is more ergonomically suited for the job at hand. Â The 1073's and 28's now get to be used by mics again.... Are you going to enlighten us, or is it your little secret? :-) |
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Post by littlesicily on Mar 28, 2014 9:10:12 GMT -6
Im running mine through the VP28 then into my AML ez1073's, this was recommended to me by Dr Bill and it sounds awesome. it does sound good. But I have moved on to a new product that is more ergonomically suited for the job at hand. The 1073's and 28's now get to be used by mics again.... Do tell... by "ergonomic" you don't mean a mouse and plugin do you?  |
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Post by drbill on Mar 28, 2014 10:35:33 GMT -6
it does sound good. But I have moved on to a new product that is more ergonomically suited for the job at hand. The 1073's and 28's now get to be used by mics again.... Are you going to enlighten us, or is it your little secret? :-) Yes, in all due time. It is not time yet, but IMO, suffice it to say, you will hear about it. Even if it's not from me. For me it was the culmination and realization of my "experiments" on 2 bus. |
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Post by drbill on Mar 28, 2014 10:37:58 GMT -6
it does sound good. But I have moved on to a new product that is more ergonomically suited for the job at hand. The 1073's and 28's now get to be used by mics again.... Do tell... by "ergonomic" you don't mean a mouse and plugin do you? Haha!!! Nope. You won't get off so easy. It's a big azz piece of hardware for you patriots and will cost enough to make you wish you didn't HAVE to buy it.  But you will. We all will. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2014 10:56:41 GMT -6
Is it from our friends at CAPI?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 28, 2014 11:21:50 GMT -6
Are you going to enlighten us, or is it your little secret? :-) Yes, in all due time. It is not time yet, but IMO, suffice it to say, you will hear about it. Even if it's not from me. For me it was the culmination and realization of my "experiments" on 2 bus. Who are you....Slate? Haha |
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Post by jsteiger on Mar 28, 2014 11:34:45 GMT -6
Is it from our friends at CAPI? Nope. If it was, you would already know about JK! |
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Post by jeromemason on Mar 28, 2014 11:59:14 GMT -6
Do tell... by "ergonomic" you don't mean a mouse and plugin do you? Haha!!! Nope. You won't get off so easy. It's a big azz piece of hardware for you patriots and will cost enough to make you wish you didn't HAVE to buy it. But you will. We all will. This is like not giving a sex addict a playboy.... c'mon man. |
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Post by joey808 on Mar 28, 2014 12:14:20 GMT -6
Im running mine through the VP28 then into my AML ez1073's, this was recommended to me by Dr Bill and it sounds awesome. it does sound good. But I have moved on to a new product that is more ergonomically suited for the job at hand. The 1073's and 28's now get to be used by mics again.... Interesting would love to hear about it. |
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Post by sceneofdarhyme on Mar 28, 2014 12:27:43 GMT -6
Haha!!! Nope. You won't get off so easy. It's a big azz piece of hardware for you patriots and will cost enough to make you wish you didn't HAVE to buy it. But you will. We all will. Jonte Knif has moved to the USA? |
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Post by Guitar on Mar 28, 2014 22:02:13 GMT -6
yeah spill the beans dr!
I am soon to start my own CAPI/neveish experiments..
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2014 22:06:11 GMT -6
Once I get my lazy butt off this sofa, I'm gonna run my Helios into the Heider for a vocal. Hell, maybe I'll just use the Heider. I'm kind of one of those "I don't want to change the way I'm doing things because if it doesn't go well that means I'll have to track it again and that would be more work than I want to do" kind of guys...So, I really haven't strayed away from the Helios on vocals because it just works every time...and I can tweak the EQ a little whenever I need to...Maybe the Helios into the Heider will be absolute sonic bliss.
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Post by tonycamphd on Mar 29, 2014 12:18:11 GMT -6
If you're concerned about precision control over and between L/R channels on ur 2, the ML's are a better choice than the Vp 28's, though over all, the Vp's are slightly more versatile on paper IMO
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Post by drbill on Mar 29, 2014 12:41:44 GMT -6
I've used both in the past quite a bit before. If you're looking for L/R balance finesse or more filter options, the ML is the way to go. If you're looking for a wider tonal palate with more coloration and slightly less L/R control and Filter options, the VP28 is the way to go. The VP is much more ergonomically accepting of "drive" options in it's topology than the ML. Personally, before moving to the new box, the VP28 was my favorite over the ML for the abovementioned reason. The ML is better if you want less of a sonic imprint. That was not what I was looking for at that time though.... You really can't go wrong with either depending on your needs.
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Post by RicFoxx on Mar 29, 2014 14:21:35 GMT -6
I just ran a vocal that was recorded into a N72 pre back out thru the VP28 into a Warm Audio76 into a Clariphonic (hardware) through my console and it was magic! Cant wait to run a mix thru them into the Clariphonic, SSL Bus Comp then Burl B2...pure analog heaven.
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Post by fishnmusician on Apr 14, 2014 2:21:32 GMT -6
I use a pair of custom VP312 with a Folcrom. Their built with carbon comp resistors, attenuator bypass, and carbon comp GAR2520, GAR1731 or Reddot's depending on the sound I want. These are the best pre's I've found so far for this application. Also use these for some mojo on individual line in's to the Folcrom with a in-line pad.
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But you will. We all will.
