Well they refer to it as a system. I kind of think it's some sort of integrated thing. Either some sort of tracking DAW that integrates with Apollos/Console and/or Satellites. Or some new device that allows for the same sort of thing and integrates with Apollos and Satellites. Or maybe both.
Antelope and Apogee have already sort of dipped their toes into those waters with varying degrees of success. I don't think it's a stretch to think that UAD may be going for a more ecosystem type of approach. We'll see.
Post by kcatthedog on Jan 10, 2020 12:44:16 GMT -6
Cat5 posted this at ua forum thread:
Cat5's Avatar Cat5 said: 1 Hour Ago UA Luna “The multitrack-like colored lines and spinning tape reels give this away. It’s not a DAW. This is UA! It’s a AAW. Analog Audio Workstation.
This going to be a UA DSP based DAW with analog summing, complete console emulation, and system-wide tape emulation. Basically a DSP driven mixing and recording environment with end-to-end analog emulation.
This may, or may not include accompanying hardware aside from the existing Apollo and UAD2 products. Maybe making the system serve as a virtual live console as well.
This is just my educated guess, but UA has avoided summing for so long I imagine it’s because they wanted to do a proper implementation at the workstation level.
As much as I don’t think we need more DAWs. This could be cool. Studio One tried to integrate this functionality but the implementation is limited to one system wide plug in and support is very limited. “
If you give me a UA DAW with properly allocated resources and the ability to load in other plugins when needed, I might actually take a dive into the UA world. Seems like cool way for UA to do the Harrison/Acustica style thing.
Oh, and let me choose the desk and gimme the GUI to match!!! I wanna turn me some SSL knobs.
Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 10, 2020 18:10:34 GMT -6
I'm not giving up on Logic after all the years I spent getting used to it. Logic editing features alone makes it hard to replace. Then there's the fact that as cool as some UAD plug-ins are, Logic's compressors sound just as good, many of their virtual instruments sound great, even their new reverb would do fine if I didn't have so many others. Also, I have a boatload of 3rd party plug-ins from companies like Softube, Soundtoys, Slate, Relab, Waves and others, I certainly would want to have access to them regardless of what DAW I use.
Hopefully, whatever they're up to can integrate with all our other gear and plugs. If it's a UAD ecosystem, it could mean having to buy only UAD's plugs to do everything you want, and I doubt anyone here would be up for that.
I have no way of knowing for sure, but I'm guessing that whatever sort of DAW solution they're coming up with, assuming that's what they're doing, it will be more like the Harrison Mixbus or Radar.
Use UA's more basic DAW for tracking, seemlessly export to your DAW of choice for more complex moves, and then run it back through the UA DAW/Console at mix time.
That way it still allows you to do all of the more advanced "DAW" sort of things in your DAW of choice (including 3rd party plugins) while still allowing UA to avoid all of the usual support issues that come with supporting a full blown DAW. Sort of like how Radar does things.
Post by saltyjames on Jan 10, 2020 23:25:33 GMT -6
I don't use UA interfaces because the built in mixer is totally annoying.
I'm guessing this will be above all some subscription based digital faffing thingy. I'm already yawning!!
FFS build a quality recallable digitally controlled analog console with at least 8 auxes and 12 or more busses. Wait.. that would totally conflict with their (entirely digital) subscription services platform.
Yeah, UA doesn't (currently) do subscriptions. I think all the studios that have invested in them would revolt.
This product could be so many things. The DAW type product would mostly be for tracking. Maybe even a portable DSP loaded RADAR type box that allows you to avoid the computer. You can mix however you want later.
One current shot in the dark on this is the UA marketing email said they were "the masters of pro audio" and a Tweet on the profile page for Output says they'll be announcing at NAMM a collaboration with the "masters of pro audio." Since they do synths and loops, it could be something in that vein. Output also makes studio furniture, so they could have something spec built for a UA box.
John, Logic almost never crashes on me since I went i7, Quad core, 32 gig memory. My computer on occasion crashes when not using Logic, so it might even be just a rare but random thing.
The few times that Logic crashes on me are almost always because of a memory overload. I only have 16 gigs of memory and I use a lot of piggy plug-ins so it's my own fault. The good news is that Logic somehow manages to auto-save whenever it crashes on me. I just re-start, and when I re-open Logic it asks if I want to open it per my last save or auto-saved. I just freeze a few tracks and I'm back up and running smoothly.