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Post by indiehouse on Jan 11, 2020 21:53:16 GMT -6
Ya, if you have an apollo, why wouldn’t you try a UA daw ? On the other hand, if you are all out of UA, it’s not a compelling reason to jump back in . I’m about half. I’ve got an Octo and my plugs. Admittedly, I always have an eye out for a second-hand Apollo. I vastly prefer that workflow over Motu’s routing matrix. I guess I’d keep an open mind about a UAD DAW.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 11, 2020 22:40:51 GMT -6
The Ox is around $1,200. It come with the territory.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Jan 11, 2020 23:02:51 GMT -6
What if it was some sort of HDX Card system that had the benefits of a PT HDX system, plus an octo card built in, and summing built into the interface like an SSL Sigma?
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Post by Quint on Jan 11, 2020 23:04:25 GMT -6
So.. Tape.. It records. 8th channel of a mixer.. it sums. They already have tape effects so, guessing, it ain't that. I'd guess it's a UA DAW with 8 summing channels. I'd hope it would eventually be a lot more, but this could be pretty cool. Especially if it could prevent the use of a computer!! I HATE dealing with computers and software constantly (not why I got into music). Hopefully it's like a Radar system, but with more channels. Track with UA plugs on the way in (if you like / know what you're doing / have balls) to a UA DAW / computer thingy. Do edits, comps, o'dubs, mix, etc, then sum out (it would have to have hardware inserts or I am totally not interested) to what you like come mix time into ?.. back into the UA DAW? It's really kinda amazing that a company hasn't done the Radar thing on a more modern / formal level. Berry retired fro Radar and there isn't much confidence in it continuing as the same powerhouse of support / service. UA could dominate this market from the gate. Dedicated UA multitrack recorder, mixer with 8 summing channels, and the ability to insert 12 or so channels of external gear $9k Same thing doubled $14k If it can't insert real hardware I would have zero interest. I have a massive amount of hardware and it ain't going anywhere anytime soon. I'll make a whole album and only use a little DAW eq, but a ton of real outboard gear. What's with the diminished level of confidence going forward? I've never owned or used a Radar, but I think it's generally accepted that they are awesome. It kind of makes me sad to think that Radar might be on a slide, even if I never used it. Any more details?
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Post by spindrift on Jan 11, 2020 23:40:44 GMT -6
Gotta be a subscription model: All those who bought plugs will have their licenses repurposed...but you get a free year of all plug access for your loyalty before you have to start paying annual fees. (posted in jest)
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Post by soundintheround on Jan 12, 2020 12:52:34 GMT -6
I think it might be something similar to Virtual Channels....but instead will be like Virtual Tape Channels.
You can record into console then assign to record in a virtual tape machine all before the DAW. This will be achieved by the Luna box via thunderbolt that has its own hard drive. Things like varispeed and others would be options.
Then when you have your tracks you can dump them all to your DAW for editing and back end mixing.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Jan 12, 2020 14:08:52 GMT -6
I wonder if its one of those remote services where you can send your mixes digitally and adjust them on analog hardware in real time...
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Post by kcatthedog on Jan 12, 2020 14:29:40 GMT -6
Not much money to be made in that? UA has software and hardware development expertise, I’m expecting a new expandable box that connects to existing apollos and with new integrated software with new console, daw or daw like features and dsp.
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Post by Guitar on Jan 12, 2020 14:31:08 GMT -6
No way in hell. UA is selling digital hardware that requires expensive proprietary plugins, I see that as their money maker going forward also. I expect whatever system this is to have expensive software options.
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Post by m03 on Jan 12, 2020 14:38:47 GMT -6
My wild guess is that this will be similar to the McDSP APB-16, except locked into their ecosystem (obviously) and with lower channel count options.
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Post by reddirt on Jan 12, 2020 18:02:46 GMT -6
Drew must be getting a good chuckle right now. Cheers, Ross
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Post by javamad on Jan 12, 2020 18:08:44 GMT -6
Drew must be getting a good chuckle right now. Cheers, Ross I'd say they are taking notes across all forums to get a feel for what are the gaps in peoples minds/studios. A lot of hair-brained ideas around the forums but some sound pretty solid .... like my idea of a channel strip control surface so you could have an API or a Neve or an SSL across 16 channels at your fingertips. With 8 groups (console summing modelled) and 4 cues, etc. Thats not hair-brained at all right guys? .... guys? :-D
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Post by Drew @ UA on Jan 12, 2020 18:19:45 GMT -6
There's no shortage of ideas, don't worry.
There's nothing new being mentioned anywhere that I've seen.
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Post by Drew @ UA on Jan 12, 2020 18:20:22 GMT -6
Drew must be getting a good chuckle right now. Cheers, Ross Yeah, it's super fun!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 12, 2020 18:57:31 GMT -6
Gotta be a subscription model: All those who bought plugs will have their licenses repurposed...but you get a free year of all plug access for your loyalty before you have to start paying annual fees. (posted in jest) Shut your dirty mouth
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 12, 2020 19:00:08 GMT -6
I wonder if it’s as simple as their version of Console 1? Like an 8 channel version maybe? Like an Avid Artist Mix that can control their plugin parameters?
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Post by Quint on Jan 12, 2020 20:00:51 GMT -6
Gotta be a subscription model: All those who bought plugs will have their licenses repurposed...but you get a free year of all plug access for your loyalty before you have to start paying annual fees. (posted in jest) Shut your dirty mouth Ditto
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jan 12, 2020 21:45:19 GMT -6
A DAW that doesn’t crash? I’m in. They call that one Reaper. With the worst UI ever created.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jan 12, 2020 21:46:22 GMT -6
The Ox is around $1,200. It come with the territory. And I like the Iridium so much more. I'd sell the OX if there weren't so many on Reverb at any moment.
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Post by svart on Jan 12, 2020 21:51:49 GMT -6
They call that one Reaper. With the worst UI ever created. It's reskinable. Pick one you like.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Jan 12, 2020 22:10:29 GMT -6
With the worst UI ever created. It's reskinable. Pick one you like. Yeah. And then spend time trying to figure out where the buttons from the last "skin" disappeared to... no thanks.
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Post by nick8801 on Jan 12, 2020 22:13:00 GMT -6
I’ll play, since this is sparking my curiosity as well...I’m going with external analog fx box, controlled digitally, like the McDsp thing. But I bet they do it at a much better cost and offer several varieties. 2 channel for stereo processing stuff, maybe 8 and 16 if you wanna track with real analog enhanced plugins as opposed to just digital emulations. We will see.....
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Post by donr on Jan 13, 2020 0:34:24 GMT -6
OT (but I'm Mr. OT here ) UAD has had imo the most entertaining NAMM show presence of late since MusicMan stopped doing their themed presentations, and the heyday of the 80's-90's NAMM shows. Line 6's and Seymour Duncan's space in the day was awesome. I hope UA has a spectacular way of introducing the LUNA product. I thought they've done a great job of promoting their brand and their people in the last decade at NAMM. I particularly liked the period recording studio with 50's costumes and personel and personal photos. 'Course I would, those early days of modern audio were golden, and I experienced them as a young listener. So, an 8 trk DAW? Probably not. Maybe an I/O device and UI that can track or mix up to its channel capability with unified emulations and UAD plugs. Tied to any DAW as subservient, until mix time, or back out as analog summer (with character plugs.) My guess.
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Post by Quint on Jan 13, 2020 0:50:16 GMT -6
Drew's comments about analog summing have, I think, pretty much eliminated that as a possibility, but I could totally see them adding capabilities to Console to allow you to use it not just for tracking but also at mix time. So you would still track into your daw, but you could then run it out into Console and do your mixing there as well.
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Post by donr on Jan 13, 2020 0:55:26 GMT -6
Drew's comments about analog summing have, I think, pretty much eliminated that as a possibility, but I could totally see them adding capabilities to Console to allow you to use it not just for tracking but also at mix time. So you would still track into your daw, but you could then run it out into Console and do your mixing there as well. Well, it's not Apollo III or IV..
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