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Post by indiehouse on Jan 20, 2020 15:46:15 GMT -6
Also, I just found something interesting. I removed my headphones and just played some on the guitar and I can hear buzzing coming from the box itself! Not sure if this is just a mechanical vibration from the fan kicking on each time or not, but it's definitely something.
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Post by ragan on Jan 20, 2020 15:50:35 GMT -6
That's interesting. The way it tapers as the guitar amplitude wanes sounds really similar to what you're getting in your recorded tracks. I'd not be surprised to find out they're related.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 20, 2020 16:31:59 GMT -6
I wonder if it’s a cracked solder joint?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 20, 2020 18:12:51 GMT -6
That's pretty strange Indiehouse. I hope you figure it all out and get a quiet one.
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Post by Ward on Jan 21, 2020 11:11:58 GMT -6
Also, I just found something interesting. I removed my headphones and just played some on the guitar and I can hear buzzing coming from the box itself! Not sure if this is just a mechanical vibration from the fan kicking on each time or not, but it's definitely something. Clearly that’s demonic possession. (Someone had to say it)
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Post by donr on Jan 21, 2020 11:39:07 GMT -6
I hope I'm not cluttering the thread, but I wouldn't use the Iridium only for the cab IR's in it. There's better IR loaders than that for the purpose. The Iridium's strength is amp/cab substitution.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 21, 2020 15:26:14 GMT -6
I hope I'm not cluttering the thread, but I wouldn't use the Iridium only for the cab IR's in it. There's better IR loaders than that for the purpose. The Iridium's strength is amp/cab substitution. You mean better sounding loaders? Isn't the Iridium using pretty high quality (24/96) IR's? I kind of think of it like I'm getting 4 amps, my Swart tube amp (using the cab side) and the three Iridium amps. Would a different IR loader sound better or is it just a matter of price/functionality/value?
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Post by donr on Jan 21, 2020 15:39:39 GMT -6
I hope I'm not cluttering the thread, but I wouldn't use the Iridium only for the cab IR's in it. There's better IR loaders than that for the purpose. The Iridium's strength is amp/cab substitution. You mean better sounding loaders? Isn't the Iridium using pretty high quality (24/96) IR's? I kind of think of it like I'm getting 4 amps, my Swart tube amp (using the cab side) and the three Iridium amps. Would a different IR loader sound better or is it just a matter of price/functionality/value? No Indie, the Iridium remains a value for the 3 amps and 9 cabs in it, but if you want to go out of the Suhr load box, something like a Two-Notes CabM is a better choice IMO for the versatility and the cab/mic adjustability.
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Post by ragan on Jan 21, 2020 15:42:25 GMT -6
I hope I'm not cluttering the thread, but I wouldn't use the Iridium only for the cab IR's in it. There's better IR loaders than that for the purpose. The Iridium's strength is amp/cab substitution. You know you can load whatever IRs you want onto the Iridium right? Or maybe you meant that it only holds 9?
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Post by donr on Jan 21, 2020 15:47:56 GMT -6
I know you can load different IR's into the Iridium, but I haven't. Have you? I also don't know the memory limitiations of the IR slots. My point is only that there's better options for playing IRs than the Iridium, and personally I'm already using different IR's than what came in it.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 21, 2020 16:00:17 GMT -6
I know you can load different IR's into the Iridium, but I haven't. Have you? I also don't know the memory limitiations of the IR slots. My point is only that there's better options for playing IRs than the Iridium, and personally I'm already using different IR's than what came in it. I played around a bit with the IR loader software. I'm going to look at purchasing a cab pack soon. I guess what I'm saying is that I plan on using the amps in the Iridium for tracking in addition to my Swart. I figured I'd take advantage of the cab only mode of the Iridium as opposed to buying yet another device, or shelling out more money for an all-in-one like the Suhr Reactive Load IR. I suppose if I only wanted to track my Swart, or if I had a bunch of other tube amp options, then it would make more sense.
Though I did think about just going with the new Suhr RL IR instead of the Iridium. That looks like a sweet box. But I'd lose out on getting to track with the "Vox" and "Marshall" amps in the Iridium (Swart is kinda in the Fender Tweed camp).
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Post by ragan on Jan 21, 2020 16:05:37 GMT -6
I know you can load different IR's into the Iridium, but I haven't. Have you? I also don't know the memory limitiations of the IR slots. My point is only that there's better options for playing IRs than the Iridium, and personally I'm already using different IR's than what came in it. I haven't messed with it yet, no. Definitely plan to though when time permits. From Strymon: "Iridium delivers full stereo 24bit 96kHz resolution for the entire 500 milliseconds of its speaker cabinet impulse responses. Until now, IRs of this resolution have only been available for use within studio recording software. Iridium's breakthrough technology means you can use the very best impulse responses available..." Anyone know the specs of other hardware IR loaders in this regard?
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 21, 2020 19:54:12 GMT -6
This is the specs from the Suhr Reactive Load IR. Not sure why their 20.5ms is so much faster than Strymons 500ms. And if that’s better or worse than Strymons.
WAV, Mono, 24bit, 48kHz, 20.5 ms (I.R.s greater than 20.5 ms will be truncated to 20.5 ms)
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Post by ragan on Jan 21, 2020 22:52:37 GMT -6
This is the specs from the Suhr Reactive Load IR. Not sure why their 20.5ms is so much faster than Strymons 500ms. And if that’s better or worse than Strymons. WAV, Mono, 24bit, 48kHz, 20.5 ms (I.R.s greater than 20.5 ms will be truncated to 20.5 ms) The longer, higher res Strymon would be the better spec. It means you’re getting a more complete version of the IR that was taken.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 22, 2020 6:32:50 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 22, 2020 6:39:44 GMT -6
Haven't listened yet, but the 906 is a super middy mic.
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Post by sirthought on Jan 22, 2020 8:22:59 GMT -6
Empress Reverb and Echosystem each have a cab IR output option. It 24 bit, 48 kHz sample rate. 32 bit internal processing. Neunaber Iconoclast has 96 kHz sample rate, but doesn't say bit depth. GFI Systems Cabzeus has 48 kHz, 24 bit resolution
I'm guessing the Strymon is really good in its field. Probably not noticeable enough for users to tell the difference in a performance.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 22, 2020 8:54:31 GMT -6
Haven't listened yet, but the 906 is a super middy mic. I shoulda grabbed a different one, but it was the easiest for me to use basically because it was sitting right there. Mic was placed on the grill, about halfway between center and edge. Probably just proximity. I gotta say that I like the mic’d cab the best. The DAW using the PULSE can loader was terrible. Strymon was bright and kinda fizzy and buzzy. It doesn’t sound that way using their amps, so I’m guessing it’s the reactive box. I’ve been in contact with Suhr and John is convinced that the sound from the reactive box is just how my amp sounds. That’s why I did this test. I don’t think my amp sounds that fizzy on top.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 22, 2020 8:58:53 GMT -6
Could be just the cab IR I chose in the Iridium. Maybe I should look for a better fit. I had used cab A on the Round setting, which I think is a 1x12.
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Post by ragan on Jan 22, 2020 10:17:56 GMT -6
For me the EQ'd cab and the Iridium IR version are at the top, then the non EQ'd cab, then in a distant fourth the DAW IR loader. Really interesting how wildly different that sounds vs the Iridium loading (presumably the same?) IR.
Interesting that you hear the Iridium loaded IR version as being bright and fizzy. To me it's the most midrange forward of them all. I would back that 906 off another inch or two and move it to the center cone's edge.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 22, 2020 11:07:05 GMT -6
The Strymon sounds to me like the room knob is cranked up. Much more of a roomy sound than the close mic sound.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 22, 2020 12:20:21 GMT -6
The Strymon sounds to me like the room knob is cranked up. Much more of a roomy sound than the close mic sound. True. It was probably up a little. Strange thing is with this particular IR, there is an inherent room sound even with the room turned all the way down. I will try and refine my testing. I need to use the same cabs for both the Iridium and DAW. I will take some time to find a cab IR that matches well with the Swart. I'll get a better raw mic'd track. There are a couple of things Suhr wants me to try as well. I was trying to do all of this in about 5 minutes with a three year old. Sigh. I have to keep reminding myself that one day they will be all grown up...and I will be old, deaf and arthritic.
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Post by ragan on Jan 22, 2020 12:59:09 GMT -6
The Strymon sounds to me like the room knob is cranked up. Much more of a roomy sound than the close mic sound. True. It was probably up a little. Strange thing is with this particular IR, there is an inherent room sound even with the room turned all the way down. I will try and refine my testing. I need to use the same cabs for both the Iridium and DAW. I will take some time to find a cab IR that matches well with the Swart. I'll get a better raw mic'd track. There are a couple of things Suhr wants me to try as well. I was trying to do all of this in about 5 minutes with a three year old. Sigh. I have to keep reminding myself that one day they will be all grown up...and I will be old, deaf and arthritic. You have my sympathy re: trying to get things done with wee ones all over ye. Add to the wish list for the next round - level matching. In PT just highlight the clip and Audiosuite—>Normalize. Pick RMS and not peak and put it to something like -26dB or something. Super quick.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 23, 2020 9:15:08 GMT -6
So the issue where switching amps would affect the cab sound while in cab mode has been fixed with a firmware update. I loaded the same cab in the A position of all three amps, and now they all sound the same. So that's good.
I bought the OwnHammer (r)Evolution bundle last night. Hoping to run another test today to see if this reactive load into Iridium setup is going to work or not.
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Post by ragan on Jan 23, 2020 10:53:49 GMT -6
So the issue where switching amps would affect the cab sound while in cab mode has been fixed with a firmware update. I loaded the same cab in the A position of all three amps, and now they all sound the same. So that's good. I bought the OwnHammer (r)Evolution bundle last night. Hoping to run another test today to see if this reactive load into Iridium setup is going to work or not. Good news re: firmware fix. Keep us updated. I both want to buy some Ownhammer IRs and maybe try a reactive load box to be able to use my amps through IRs.
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