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Post by ragan on Jun 1, 2019 13:33:15 GMT -6
Yeah in PT you right click and deactivate. Bypassing still incurs latency.
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Post by indiehouse on Jun 1, 2019 13:45:06 GMT -6
I can’t get my get my latency any lower than 64 samples, sometimes more, on my poor little 2012 Mac mini. I track and build as I go, so latency is a no go for me. That’s the appeal of the Kemper. I had bought the UAD Tweed sim, but grew to strongly dislike the sound of that. Always sounded harsh to me.
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Post by ragan on Jun 1, 2019 13:52:29 GMT -6
I couldn’t get along with any of the UAD/Softube sims. But I haven’t tried any in the last couple years.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 1, 2019 14:26:55 GMT -6
I couldn’t get along with any of the UAD/Softube sims. But I haven’t tried any in the last couple years. The only ones I like are Buxom Betty, and the Ampeg bass amps (all three of them). Other than that, I find them largely unusable/unlistenable.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 1, 2019 17:58:22 GMT -6
I couldn’t get along with any of the UAD/Softube sims. But I haven’t tried any in the last couple years. The only ones I like are Buxom Betty, and the Ampeg bass amps (all three of them). Other than that, I find them largely unusable/unlistenable. The newest Suhr is a monster and all the Friedman amps are good. I could do everything with the Dirty Shirley...The Fuchs Train is good too. Never liked the Tweed Deluxe.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 1, 2019 21:19:51 GMT -6
The only ones I like are Buxom Betty, and the Ampeg bass amps (all three of them). Other than that, I find them largely unusable/unlistenable. The newest Suhr is a monster and all the Friedman amps are good. I could do everything with the Dirty Shirley...The Fuchs Train is good too. Never liked the Tweed Deluxe. Thanks I will try to demo those!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 2, 2019 13:23:00 GMT -6
Spent about three hours today with TH-U (Full version) and Kemper. I have to say, I won't be selling my Kemper anytime soon. There are some good tones in TH-U, but it takes me a while to get to them. Punch, click, remove, fat-finger, click, remove, replace, this tube that tube, this cabinet, this IR, no...this IR...no this one...definitely that one. Click this, maybe this verb...it is just endless. I turn on the Kemper and it's just there. Maybe I've already done all the clicking and punching on the Kemper...IDK, But damn, today, clicking on a couple of Deluxe Tweeds and a 62 Deluxe...was just inspiring.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 2, 2019 13:31:57 GMT -6
Spent about three hours today with TH-U (Full version) and Kemper. I have to say, I won't be selling my Kemper anytime soon. There are some good tones in TH-U, but it takes me a while to get to them. Punch, click, remove, fat-finger, click, remove, replace, this tube that tube, this cabinet, this IR, no...this IR...no this one...definitely that one. Click this, maybe this verb...it is just endless. I turn on the Kemper and it's just there. Maybe I've already done all the clicking and punching on the Kemper...IDK, But damn, today, clicking on a couple of Deluxe Tweeds and a 62 Deluxe...was just inspiring. I have Positive Grid Bias 2, some version of it. My reaction was a little different. I LOVE designing my own amps. I was able to come up with two or three models that loosely emulate my Marshall DSL, Selmer Treble n Bass MK II, and Fender Showman. Just going off of the tone in my head anyway. Completely fascinated with all the little tweaks. In some way it feels like giving me some small insight into tube amp design. I do like the other ones that are plug and play though like you said. Some of those require tweaking as well. I think every amp sim I have has a few custom presets that I have dialed in, using Own Hammer IR cabs, whatever, finding the best tones. I like digital amps a lot too I have a Boss Katana head which is a lot cheaper than a Kemper but I think it sounds great. The plug and play aspect of it is very inspiring. However you do have the ability to deep dive, with the computer software that you connect with USB. I guess Bias 2 is kind of like that too. You can deep dive in there, then you can just close the panels and use the gain and tone knobs like any normal amp afterwards. I've also been doing some DI clean tones with a Motown direct box, that's a fun tone too. Sometimes these sounds are more inspiring than my tube amps which is really interesting. I think it lends a variety to a series of productions over times to use different tones. And inspires different playing.
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Post by ragan on Jun 2, 2019 15:13:23 GMT -6
Spent about three hours today with TH-U (Full version) and Kemper. I have to say, I won't be selling my Kemper anytime soon. There are some good tones in TH-U, but it takes me a while to get to them. Punch, click, remove, fat-finger, click, remove, replace, this tube that tube, this cabinet, this IR, no...this IR...no this one...definitely that one. Click this, maybe this verb...it is just endless. I turn on the Kemper and it's just there. Maybe I've already done all the clicking and punching on the Kemper...IDK, But damn, today, clicking on a couple of Deluxe Tweeds and a 62 Deluxe...was just inspiring. The Kemper is definitely better for set and forget, which can be really valuable. You're printing your tone so once it's done, that's it. That can be liberating. You can of course do that with TH-U too but you have to sort of discipline yourself I guess. Cause you can tweak the hell out of it if you choose to. I think the workflow that will suit me best with it will be to get in the ballpark of what I want for a given guitar part and get the performance done. Then at mix time, where I get really, really persnickety about guitar sounds and how they fit together, I kinda love the ability to tweak. Rhythm guitar width is something I really geek out on, trying to attain this or that landscape, and the TH-U tweaks are irresistible to me for that. I guess the way I see it is I can treat TH-U just like the Kemper for tracking - get something that inspires and sounds good and get the part tracked - but I can get tweaky if I choose to during the mix. And either way I have the DI track just sitting there if I wanna re-amp or whatever. But I do enjoy the non-mouse nature of the Kemper. Having the processing in a hardware box that exists outside of the DAW is fun. I do like it. It's really just the Kemper sonics that I've never quite bought into. And that's not to say they're not good cause they are. And obviously to a lot of people they're significantly better than just "good". For me, I just hear a sound to it. But I'm not done testing it. Gonna do some other styles/vibes that I work with and see if my longstanding impression of the Kemper gets changed or not. I'm certainly open to it changing.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 2, 2019 16:36:52 GMT -6
Spent about three hours today with TH-U (Full version) and Kemper. I have to say, I won't be selling my Kemper anytime soon. There are some good tones in TH-U, but it takes me a while to get to them. Punch, click, remove, fat-finger, click, remove, replace, this tube that tube, this cabinet, this IR, no...this IR...no this one...definitely that one. Click this, maybe this verb...it is just endless. I turn on the Kemper and it's just there. Maybe I've already done all the clicking and punching on the Kemper...IDK, But damn, today, clicking on a couple of Deluxe Tweeds and a 62 Deluxe...was just inspiring. The Kemper is definitely better for set and forget, which can be really valuable. You're printing your tone so once it's done, that's it. That can be liberating. You can of course do that with TH-U too but you have to sort of discipline yourself I guess. Cause you can tweak the hell out of it if you choose to. I think the workflow that will suit me best with it will be to get in the ballpark of what I want for a given guitar part and get the performance done. Then at mix time, where I get really, really persnickety about guitar sounds and how they fit together, I kinda love the ability to tweak. Rhythm guitar width is something I really geek out on, trying to attain this or that landscape, and the TH-U tweaks are irresistible to me for that. I guess the way I see it is I can treat TH-U just like the Kemper for tracking - get something that inspires and sounds good and get the part tracked - but I can get tweaky if I choose to during the mix. And either way I have the DI track just sitting there if I wanna re-amp or whatever. But I do enjoy the non-mouse nature of the Kemper. Having the processing in a hardware box that exists outside of the DAW is fun. I do like it. It's really just the Kemper sonics that I've never quite bought into. And that's not to say they're not good cause they are. And obviously to a lot of people they're significantly better than just "good". For me, I just hear a sound to it. But I'm not done testing it. Gonna do some other styles/vibes that I work with and see if my longstanding impression of the Kemper gets changed or not. I'm certainly open to it changing. You play with the parameters inside the amp section? Definition?
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Post by ragan on Jun 2, 2019 16:41:24 GMT -6
The Kemper is definitely better for set and forget, which can be really valuable. You're printing your tone so once it's done, that's it. That can be liberating. You can of course do that with TH-U too but you have to sort of discipline yourself I guess. Cause you can tweak the hell out of it if you choose to. I think the workflow that will suit me best with it will be to get in the ballpark of what I want for a given guitar part and get the performance done. Then at mix time, where I get really, really persnickety about guitar sounds and how they fit together, I kinda love the ability to tweak. Rhythm guitar width is something I really geek out on, trying to attain this or that landscape, and the TH-U tweaks are irresistible to me for that. I guess the way I see it is I can treat TH-U just like the Kemper for tracking - get something that inspires and sounds good and get the part tracked - but I can get tweaky if I choose to during the mix. And either way I have the DI track just sitting there if I wanna re-amp or whatever. But I do enjoy the non-mouse nature of the Kemper. Having the processing in a hardware box that exists outside of the DAW is fun. I do like it. It's really just the Kemper sonics that I've never quite bought into. And that's not to say they're not good cause they are. And obviously to a lot of people they're significantly better than just "good". For me, I just hear a sound to it. But I'm not done testing it. Gonna do some other styles/vibes that I work with and see if my longstanding impression of the Kemper gets changed or not. I'm certainly open to it changing. You play with the parameters inside the amp section? Definition? In the Kemper? Yeah, 'definition' sounds like it just scrolls an emphasis filter across the spectrum. Probably with some cutting too but it sounds like a filter/curve that you roll across the frequencies so one part is poking out more. If you roll it back and forth quickly you can hear it pretty clearly. I dunno, didn't do much for me.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jun 2, 2019 17:02:22 GMT -6
De-brightened many a profile for me. I think it’s the most important parameter on the entire unit. Sounds like we don’t really hear things the same.
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Post by ragan on Jun 2, 2019 17:09:13 GMT -6
De-brightened many a profile for me. I think it’s the most important parameter on the entire unit. Sounds like we don’t really hear things the same. Yeah could be. Although de-brightening is not at all at odds with what I'm hearing, since it just sounds like an adjustable filter to me. You can brighten or de-brighten the way you could with any EQ. I can totally see it being useful. It reminds me of the 'contour' control you find on some amps that sweeps an emphasis curve around the mids. Even though it's just EQ, it's a pre-cooked thing that's very quick and useful for sculpting. I used to love that control on some of the cheaper Marshall's I rocked out on as a young dude.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 2, 2019 17:14:39 GMT -6
De-brightened many a profile for me. I think it’s the most important parameter on the entire unit. Sounds like we don’t really hear things the same. Yeah could be. Although de-brightening is not at all at odds with what I'm hearing, since it just sounds like an adjustable filter to me. You can brighten or de-brighten the way you could with any EQ. I can totally see it being useful. It reminds me of the 'contour' control you find on some amps that sweeps an emphasis curve around the mids. Even though it's just EQ, it's a pre-cooked thing that's very quick and useful for sculpting. I used to love that control on some of the cheaper Marshall's I rocked out on as a young dude. I've got a Marshall Shredmaster pedal clone that has a Contour knob. It's the most useful knob on the pedal. I also built a custom Big Muff for a friend with one of those knobs. Incredibly useful for high gain stuff especially.
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Post by ragan on Jun 2, 2019 17:18:25 GMT -6
Yeah could be. Although de-brightening is not at all at odds with what I'm hearing, since it just sounds like an adjustable filter to me. You can brighten or de-brighten the way you could with any EQ. I can totally see it being useful. It reminds me of the 'contour' control you find on some amps that sweeps an emphasis curve around the mids. Even though it's just EQ, it's a pre-cooked thing that's very quick and useful for sculpting. I used to love that control on some of the cheaper Marshall's I rocked out on as a young dude. I've got a Marshall Shredmaster pedal clone that has a Contour knob. It's the most useful knob on the pedal. I also built a custom Big Muff for a friend with one of those knobs. Incredibly useful for high gain stuff especially. Totally! Do you want it like, "GNIIRRRRRR" or like "KWHHUUUUUHWW"? All in the ol' contour knob.
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Post by Guitar on Jun 2, 2019 17:24:13 GMT -6
I've got a Marshall Shredmaster pedal clone that has a Contour knob. It's the most useful knob on the pedal. I also built a custom Big Muff for a friend with one of those knobs. Incredibly useful for high gain stuff especially. Totally! Do you want it like, "GNIIRRRRRR" or like "KWHHUUUUUHWW"? All in the ol' contour knob. Yes absolutely. I've been wanting to say this to someone so I'll post it here. I think when an amp is on 1 or 2 it kind of goes, "EHHHHHHHHHH" but when you crank an amp up and the power section saturates it kind of goes "BWOOOOOOH" It's very much a formant kind of thing in the tone. I LOVE when amps go "BWOOOOOOH"
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