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Post by sean on Mar 30, 2019 0:55:23 GMT -6
I grabbed this off Reverb and it arrived today. Haven’t tested it yet but will tomorrow. The previous owner said it had an actual Neumann K67 capsule. Here are some pictures. It does look identical to old brass ring K67 capsule from the early 60’s (attached is a picture from Vintage King) and none of the “clone” capsule look like it, and modern Neumann capsules have white rings. Thoughts? I sent a message to RMS as well, and Klaus Heyne just in case he was bored  |
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Post by sean on Mar 30, 2019 0:57:01 GMT -6
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Mar 30, 2019 1:42:53 GMT -6
I grabbed this off Reverb and it arrived today. Haven’t tested it yet but will tomorrow. The previous owner said it had an actual Neumann K67 capsule. Here are some pictures. It does look identical to old brass ring K67 capsule from the early 60’s (attached is a picture from Vintage King) and none of the “clone” capsule look like it, and modern Neumann capsules have white rings. Thoughts? I sent a message to RMS as well, and Klaus Heyne just in case he was bored Looks nothing like the the ADK 67 that RMS come with in any case. |
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 30, 2019 5:47:28 GMT -6
I grabbed this off Reverb and it arrived today. Haven’t tested it yet but will tomorrow. The previous owner said it had an actual Neumann K67 capsule. Here are some pictures. It does look identical to old brass ring K67 capsule from the early 60’s (attached is a picture from Vintage King) and none of the “clone” capsule look like it, and modern Neumann capsules have white rings. Thoughts? I sent a message to RMS as well, and Klaus Heyne just in case he was bored Would be interesting to see a gut shot of the mic. |
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Post by sean on Mar 30, 2019 7:36:12 GMT -6
 It doesnt look like the circuit has been modified in any way for a de-emphasis circuit, unless the values of the components are different. I’m heading to the studio now and I’ll throw it up and see how it sounds. I have my Bock 241 and 49 hooked up alright so I’ll do a little comparison |
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Post by sean on Mar 30, 2019 11:48:56 GMT -6
From Klaus:
The sample you show is a re-skinned Neumann K47/49 from the early 1960s. It will not sound genuine, due to the replacement diaphragms.
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Post by ragan on Mar 30, 2019 11:54:57 GMT -6
Interesting. Does it sound *good* though?
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 30, 2019 12:43:14 GMT -6
From Klaus: The sample you show is a re-skinned Neumann K47/49 from the early 1960s. It will not sound genuine, due to the replacement diaphragms. KH Was that disclosed to you when you bought it? Big difference between a genuine K67 capsule and a reskinned K67 capsule. |
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Post by ragan on Mar 30, 2019 12:53:44 GMT -6
From Klaus: The sample you show is a re-skinned Neumann K47/49 from the early 1960s. It will not sound genuine, due to the replacement diaphragms. KH Was that disclosed to you when you bought it? Big difference between a genuine K67 capsule and a reskinned K67 capsule. And this isn’t even a K67. It’s a K47/49. |
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Post by sean on Mar 30, 2019 13:25:49 GMT -6
I’m using it now on a singer songwriter John Prine-ish vibe and it’s not making me mad. It’s funny, even though I’ve recorded probabaly a thousand songs at this point it’s hard for me to say it sounds really good unless I compare it to something else directly. I’ll try to that this evening
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Post by sean on Mar 30, 2019 13:26:49 GMT -6
From Klaus: The sample you show is a re-skinned Neumann K47/49 from the early 1960s. It will not sound genuine, due to the replacement diaphragms. KH Was that disclosed to you when you bought it? Big difference between a genuine K67 capsule and a reskinned K67 capsule. It was sold as a K67 capsule not a K47, and not necessarily a vintage or reskinned capsule |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 30, 2019 13:29:49 GMT -6
You mike nomenclature whiz kids lose me fast:)
Ah,, k for kapsule and # for type of Neumann that kapsule was original in ?
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Post by sirthought on Mar 30, 2019 14:08:08 GMT -6
You mike nomenclature whiz kids lose me fast:) Ah,, k for kapsule and # for type of Neumann that kapsule was original in ? That is the model name for the component. |
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Post by indiehouse on Mar 30, 2019 14:39:20 GMT -6
Was that disclosed to you when you bought it? Big difference between a genuine K67 capsule and a reskinned K67 capsule. And this isn’t even a K67. It’s a K47/49. Oh damn. Didn’t even catch that. Bummer man. |
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Mar 30, 2019 15:20:26 GMT -6
Can you get a photo that shows the backplate better. It doesn’t look like a k47 drill pattern. It looks like a k67 drill pattern.
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Post by BenjaminAshlin on Mar 30, 2019 16:07:40 GMT -6
It doesnt look like the circuit has been modified in any way for a de-emphasis circuit, unless the values of the components are different. I’m heading to the studio now and I’ll throw it up and see how it sounds. I have my Bock 241 and 49 hooked up alright so I’ll do a little comparison The original design used a gk67 type capsule that is eq'd with de-emphasis built in. Not sure what effect this will have. Manley, Brauner and Sony don't use a de-emphasis circuit with a 67 style capsule. Compare the back plate and you will probably conclude it’s not a k47 its a K67. Klaus May have made a typo |
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Post by Vincent R. on Mar 31, 2019 18:54:25 GMT -6
Did Robert get back to you yet? He should be able to tell you what’s what assuming it is his mic. It shouldn’t have a K47. That’s incorrect to an M269. The microphone does have deemphasis, but it is not circuit accurate. Robert does attenuate it more when he builds one with the Neumann k67 capsule.
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Post by sean on Mar 31, 2019 18:57:30 GMT -6
He did i think Klaus is possible mistaken about it being a K47 capsule looking at different example of them but I need take more pictures for Robert
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Post by sean on Apr 1, 2019 16:02:09 GMT -6
Robert said he remembers building that microphone and their is a small change to the circuit to work with that capsule. It’s a K67 that was reskinned by Thiersch
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Post by jakeharris on Apr 3, 2019 5:33:20 GMT -6
From Klaus: The sample you show is a re-skinned Neumann K47/49 from the early 1960s. It will not sound genuine, due to the replacement diaphragms. KH No doubt it's a K67/K87. Identifiable from backplate drill pattern (visible in pictures), two extra larger screws on each diaphragm ring (visible in pictures), and double backplates (not visible). The two larger screws on each side hold the K67's double backplates together. Not used on single backplate K47. Another easy way to check is to hold the capsule up against a light. If you can see light shine through, it's a K47. But easiest & quickest way is to count backplates. |
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Post by drbill on Apr 3, 2019 10:04:30 GMT -6
Robert said he remembers building that microphone and their is a small change to the circuit to work with that capsule. It’s a K67 that was reskinned by Thiersch yeah....but how does it SOUND?? Been using my RMS269 quite a bit lately..... |
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Post by sean on Apr 17, 2019 17:50:33 GMT -6
I used it on a few sessions and it was a bit peaky in the 1-3K range. I sent it to Robert, he recalibrated the power supply and plate voltage, which was higher than normal, and he said it should be back to normal. No charge, look at it the day it arrived...awesome service! Make me want to keep support them. Excited to hear it now
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Post by drbill on Apr 17, 2019 18:05:55 GMT -6
I used it on a few sessions and it was a bit peaky in the 1-3K range. I sent it to Robert, he recalibrated the power supply and plate voltage, which was higher than normal, and he said it should be back to normal. No charge, look at it the day it arrived...awesome service! Make me want to keep support them. Excited to hear it now Great to hear about the service!! I've never needed anything, but that's good to know! Interesting. My RMS269 is anything but peaky in that region. Smooth as butter. But I perceive that the extreme HF is not as "open" as some vintage units. The same deal as all the clones. None of them have that magic air. I think for the 269 it's the AC701..... |
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Post by Vincent R. on Apr 17, 2019 20:30:12 GMT -6
I used it on a few sessions and it was a bit peaky in the 1-3K range. I sent it to Robert, he recalibrated the power supply and plate voltage, which was higher than normal, and he said it should be back to normal. No charge, look at it the day it arrived...awesome service! Make me want to keep support them. Excited to hear it now Yeah, Robert is really cool like that. |
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Post by dreamsambas on Apr 17, 2019 21:50:06 GMT -6
In my experience, a U67 without the de-emphasis is a little peaky. Loses that gorgeous balance of the K67 in its proper circuit.
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