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Post by cowboycoalminer on Nov 8, 2018 9:23:00 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 8, 2018 10:24:48 GMT -6
Sounds lovely. I've always thought verbs were one of the things UAD does best. Man, imagine if Slate was as adept at branding as UAD is. I like the guy and his plugins but his Ed Hardy/Hot Topic promotional style is cringe-y. Imagine a trendy, stylish, understated rollout with tasteful aesthetics and a logo that doesn't evoke Staind or Nickelback and then, "...get this along with all of the other plugs for $15/mo or buy it for $149, also you can run more than 4 of them in a session..." He'd eat UAD's lunch. Agree with all of that, but I still think the majority or Slate plugs aren’t in the same quality league with UAD.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 8, 2018 10:26:21 GMT -6
I need to revisit Valhalla Room again I still use Valhalla on nearly everything. Yeah - vintage verb and plate. Don’t reach for room that much.
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Post by ragan on Nov 8, 2018 10:32:55 GMT -6
Sounds lovely. I've always thought verbs were one of the things UAD does best. Man, imagine if Slate was as adept at branding as UAD is. I like the guy and his plugins but his Ed Hardy/Hot Topic promotional style is cringe-y. Imagine a trendy, stylish, understated rollout with tasteful aesthetics and a logo that doesn't evoke Staind or Nickelback and then, "...get this along with all of the other plugs for $15/mo or buy it for $149, also you can run more than 4 of them in a session..." He'd eat UAD's lunch. Agree with all of that, but I still think the majority or Slate plugs aren’t in the same quality league with UAD. Could be. When I would blind test them I usually landed around a 50/50 draw but it was rarely direct apples to apples since they don’t emulate that much of exactly the same gear.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 8, 2018 10:49:11 GMT -6
I’m mostly saying that based on the 1176
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Post by Quint on Nov 8, 2018 11:51:13 GMT -6
Ha! That should be used on the Twitter account for Reverbaholics Anonymous. But seriously, did some meeting happen somewhere in the last year where all of the plugin designers got together and decided to release some really great reverb plugins all around the same time?
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Post by drsax on Nov 8, 2018 13:25:53 GMT -6
Man... UA has done it. Crap... just when I didn’t want to spend more $$$ on reverb. I’ve got the UAD and the Relab next to one another on the same source right now, and as good as the Relab sounds, the UAD exceeds it. I have always had just one problem with the Relab which is that it sound pretty seperated from the source. Like it doesn’t gel with the source. The UAD glues with the original source considerably better, it is wider, and slightly less metallic and has better imaging. It is livelier sounding and creates more movement in the sound. I’ve matched the send & return levels and tried most of the presets and the UAD definitely exceeds the Relab. I wanted to dislike it cuz I have too many verbs. But Sheesh... I fight for every inch I can get in my studio to take things to higher levels and this plugin will definitely up my reverb game.. Sheesh... time to start saving my pennies cuz when the 14day demo ends I think I’m gonna have to pony up and get his one. Oh and one more thing, the user interface is better as well
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Post by rowmat on Nov 8, 2018 16:31:26 GMT -6
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Post by Guitar on Nov 8, 2018 17:10:15 GMT -6
I wonder how this compares to the other UA reverbs since they have so many already
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 8, 2018 17:19:27 GMT -6
Killing me....🤢. Holding out...not testing!
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Post by Mister Chase on Nov 8, 2018 17:24:26 GMT -6
I'm going to test tonight. Though I've never used the hardware. Heard it like all of us have though. They have one down the road at Bias I believe.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 8, 2018 17:29:26 GMT -6
Man... UA has done it. Crap... just when I didn’t want to spend more $$$ on reverb. I’ve got the UAD and the Relab next to one another on the same source right now, and as good as the Relab sounds, the UAD exceeds it. I have always had just one problem with the Relab which is that it sound pretty seperated from the source. Like it doesn’t gel with the source. The UAD glues with the original source considerably better, it is wider, and slightly less metallic and has better imaging. It is livelier sounding and creates more movement in the sound. I’ve matched the send & return levels and tried most of the presets and the UAD definitely exceeds the Relab. I wanted to dislike it cuz I have too many verbs. But Sheesh... I fight for every inch I can get in my studio to take things to higher levels and this plugin will definitely up my reverb game.. Sheesh... time to start saving my pennies cuz when the 14day demo ends I think I’m gonna have to pony up and get his one. Oh and one more thing, the user interface is better as well I've been running through some presets while demoing this Suhr SE100 (if you don't want to buy it, don't demo it) and while the big shimmery thing isn't my favorite, it seems realllly versatile and the rooms sound really good.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 8, 2018 17:49:12 GMT -6
Oh no...
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 8, 2018 17:49:20 GMT -6
No
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 8, 2018 17:51:05 GMT -6
That's really freaking good. Damnit. The rooms, ambience and short halls are about the best I've heard ITB. Wow. Check out that HALL: Small Hall + Stage on acoustics and pull down the predelay...damn.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 8, 2018 18:00:03 GMT -6
Not to make fun but sometimes we kind of rag on ua a bit, not without reason, but when they get it right, they really get it right! For Dr. Sax to say it’s better than relab is saying one hell of a lot !
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Post by Mister Chase on Nov 8, 2018 18:21:03 GMT -6
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Post by rowmat on Nov 8, 2018 18:41:09 GMT -6
Large Wood Room is a favourite for coherently placing multiple acoustic players into the same space.
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Post by Mister Chase on Nov 8, 2018 18:45:30 GMT -6
Nice. I think I had small ambience on as well as a plate or hall.
Will try the room
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 8, 2018 20:48:12 GMT -6
Man... UA has done it. Crap... just when I didn’t want to spend more $$$ on reverb. I’ve got the UAD and the Relab next to one another on the same source right now, and as good as the Relab sounds, the UAD exceeds it. I have always had just one problem with the Relab which is that it sound pretty seperated from the source. Like it doesn’t gel with the source. The UAD glues with the original source considerably better, it is wider, and slightly less metallic and has better imaging. It is livelier sounding and creates more movement in the sound. I’ve matched the send & return levels and tried most of the presets and the UAD definitely exceeds the Relab. I wanted to dislike it cuz I have too many verbs. But Sheesh... I fight for every inch I can get in my studio to take things to higher levels and this plugin will definitely up my reverb game.. Sheesh... time to start saving my pennies cuz when the 14day demo ends I think I’m gonna have to pony up and get his one. Oh and one more thing, the user interface is better as well Dang, that's good news and bad news. Hmm.. if I wait for a UAD sale, I wonder how much I could get for my Relab plug-in?
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Post by drsax on Nov 8, 2018 21:02:11 GMT -6
That's really freaking good. Damnit. The rooms, ambience and short halls are about the best I've heard ITB. Wow. Check out that HALL: Small Hall + Stage on acoustics and pull down the predelay...damn. I know right?? I am getting flamed on the purple site right now for my opinion on this verb by morons who probably haven’t even checked it out yet. I LOVE Relab and own both their LX480 and VSR24. VSR24 might be my favorite ITB verb ever. But this new UA480... it sounds better than the Relab480 to me. What I consider a substantial or clear difference might be “small” to someone else. But dang... this verb sounds killer and feels like what I experience when using the original 480L hardware. UA did a great job. I feel bad for Drew right now having to stomach all the nonsense on the forums after UA knocked it out of the park with this one. This verb and the new Eventide 2016 and the Relab VSR24 are all seriously rapidly closing the gap with their hardware counterparts. Now UA, give us some great Black Friday options and we’ll be even happier
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Post by Mister Chase on Nov 8, 2018 21:10:18 GMT -6
I heard the relab comparison and thought it was close but not quite there. I get those jones fed by the valhalla vintage verb and plate.
But this is quite nice. I don't always go in for this sound but its nice to have. Just need coupons and a sale.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 8, 2018 21:22:25 GMT -6
I’ve passed on a lot of the last offerings for different reasons. I’m not sure I can pass on this and the suhr.
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Post by viciousbliss on Nov 9, 2018 1:44:47 GMT -6
In the GS thread someone mentioned this Halls of Fame IR-based plugin that has a free version and said it was the best they heard, even better than Liquidsonics: www.bestservice.com/halls_of_fame_3_complete_edition.htmlThe install is a bit tricky. They don't explain it well. You have to extract the first folder that pops up inside winrar/7-zip, etc and then add it as content. Otherwise the presets won't show up. Then click on a preset, activate it and copy the code. Then go back to the website and enter that to get the last code needed to activate. Quality-wise, I think it's up there with SHP. I've only tested it briefly on one mix. Used 250 on guitars, M7 on drums, and for vox I shifted between the 224/Bx20/480. There's two presets each in the free one. It's not as big and thick sounding as SHP, but it is a lot more lively and clean. I'm curious what you guys with the UAD stuff would think of this one.
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Post by Guitar on Nov 9, 2018 7:45:25 GMT -6
I like how "digital" that sounds, I mean in a good way.
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