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Post by ragan on Jul 5, 2018 16:07:22 GMT -6
So I sort of impulse-bought a Soundelux e47c. It was a great price on the GC-used site and with a 45-day return window, I figured I'd like to hear it. Turns out one of the reasons it's a great price is it's missing its shockmount and cable. The shockmount I'm not concerned about but I'm wondering if any of you guys have any insight on this cable. I've put in a couple of emails to Soundelux but nothing back yet. Anyone know what this is? Looks like a threaded connector. Their literature just calls it a 'custom cable'. Anyone here got any insight? Here's a web pic that kind of shows the connector. FWIW, it looks like the same one the Bock/Soundelux 251 uses (though I don't know that for sure). I'd love to be able to make something up just to test the mic and see if it's worth hunting down the proper cable. Attachments:
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 5, 2018 16:10:30 GMT -6
If you check the pin out with a mm you could make your own cable?
You probably only have about 5 live strands?
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Post by ulriggribbons on Jul 5, 2018 16:19:57 GMT -6
Looks like a Binder connector, possibly?
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Post by tasteliketape on Jul 5, 2018 16:33:09 GMT -6
Send a picture of cable to Redco ?
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Post by ericn on Jul 5, 2018 17:18:26 GMT -6
Call Dave Bock!
99% of the tube mic cables are pin 1 to pin 1, but there is always that one guy who has to be cute, plus he might feel sorry for you and give you a deal.
Then call the store manager at the GC you bought it from and get a price adjustment! Much less hassle to give you some $ back than take the return and have to buy a cable! I also would want in writing my return window is being extended because you can’t QC the mic without a cable. This also might motivate a Sales weenie to really look for that cable.
And Store Manager don’t talk to anybody else, confirm who you are talking to is the store manager on the web site.
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Post by guitfiddler on Jul 5, 2018 17:34:24 GMT -6
I can look at my Bock 251 cable and get closeup pics to see...I would think it would be the same cable. I’m sorry extremely busy today ripping up a 12,000 sq ft floor and 200 miles away from the studio...so...maybe in the next day or two.
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Post by ragan on Jul 5, 2018 17:50:29 GMT -6
Call Dave Bock! 99% of the tube mic cables are pin 1 to pin 1, but there is always that one guy who has to be cute, plus he might feel sorry for you and give you a deal. Then call the store manager at the GC you bought it from and get a price adjustment! Much less hassle to give you some $ back than take the return and have to buy a cable! I also would want in writing my return window is being extended because you can’t QC the mic without a cable. This also might motivate a Sales weenie to really look for that cable. And Store Manager don’t talk to anybody else, confirm who you are talking to is the store manager on the web site. Sage advice. I've already got an arrangement with the manager at the store I bought it from that I'll find out how much hassle/cost is involved in getting the cable/mount and then decide what it's worth to me and if they can meet me there I'll keep it and if not I won't. |
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 5, 2018 18:03:32 GMT -6
Call Dave Bock! 99% of the tube mic cables are pin 1 to pin 1, but there is always that one guy who has to be cute, plus he might feel sorry for you and give you a deal. Then call the store manager at the GC you bought it from and get a price adjustment! Much less hassle to give you some $ back than take the return and have to buy a cable! I also would want in writing my return window is being extended because you can’t QC the mic without a cable. This also might motivate a Sales weenie to really look for that cable. And Store Manager don’t talk to anybody else, confirm who you are talking to is the store manager on the web site. Sage advice. I've already got an arrangement with the manager at the store I bought it from that I'll find out how much hassle/cost is involved in getting the cable/mount and then decide what it's worth to me and if they can meet me there I'll keep it and if not I won't. I just read a similar story a few months ago about a guy trying to get a replacement cable from Soundeluxe/Bock and it was pricey. I think they even suggested Redco. I’ll echo that and suggest you reach out to Chris from Redco. I’ll bet he’s made replacement cables for these mics before. |
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Post by ragan on Jul 5, 2018 18:10:23 GMT -6
Sage advice. I've already got an arrangement with the manager at the store I bought it from that I'll find out how much hassle/cost is involved in getting the cable/mount and then decide what it's worth to me and if they can meet me there I'll keep it and if not I won't. I just read a similar story a few months ago about a guy trying to get a replacement cable from Soundeluxe/Bock and it was pricey. I think they even suggested Redco. I’ll echo that and suggest you reach out to Chris from Redco. I’ll bet he’s made replacement cables for these mics before. Yeah I saw an 80' cable for the Bock 251 on eBay for like $300+....
No thanks.
I just need to see if I even like the mic. I'll probably try to make something up first. Then I'd go Redco, all the way. Love those guys. |
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 5, 2018 18:16:56 GMT -6
I just read a similar story a few months ago about a guy trying to get a replacement cable from Soundeluxe/Bock and it was pricey. I think they even suggested Redco. I’ll echo that and suggest you reach out to Chris from Redco. I’ll bet he’s made replacement cables for these mics before. Yeah I saw an 80' cable for the Bock 251 on eBay for like $300+....
No thanks.
I just need to see if I even like the mic. I'll probably try to make something up first. Then I'd go Redco, all the way. Love those guys. I wonder if you can use your MK67 cable? |
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Post by ericn on Jul 5, 2018 18:39:57 GMT -6
Call Dave Bock! 99% of the tube mic cables are pin 1 to pin 1, but there is always that one guy who has to be cute, plus he might feel sorry for you and give you a deal. Then call the store manager at the GC you bought it from and get a price adjustment! Much less hassle to give you some $ back than take the return and have to buy a cable! I also would want in writing my return window is being extended because you can’t QC the mic without a cable. This also might motivate a Sales weenie to really look for that cable. And Store Manager don’t talk to anybody else, confirm who you are talking to is the store manager on the web site. Sage advice. I've already got an arrangement with the manager at the store I bought it from that I'll find out how much hassle/cost is involved in getting the cable/mount and then decide what it's worth to me and if they can meet me there I'll keep it and if not I won't. Here is a trick when buying used from a distant GC, have them ship it to your local GC and open it there! First it’s less expensive, second if it’s damaged or missing something the last thing the local GC wants is some others store dog of a used piece on their inventory, so you have a huge advantage as far as any price adjustments. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jul 5, 2018 20:43:48 GMT -6
Man, that sure looks nice Ragan.
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Post by ragan on Jul 5, 2018 21:28:25 GMT -6
Man, that sure looks nice Ragan. Yeah who knows. From the reviews, it sounds like something that could be up my alley and it was an easy way to check it out, with the GC return option. We'll see if I can get a cable set up to test it out. It's being delivered tomorrow. |
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Post by ragan on Jul 5, 2018 21:54:39 GMT -6
Yeah I saw an 80' cable for the Bock 251 on eBay for like $300+....
No thanks.
I just need to see if I even like the mic. I'll probably try to make something up first. Then I'd go Redco, all the way. Love those guys. I wonder if you can use your MK67 cable? At least one thing I've seen suggests the Soundelux uses a 6 pin cable. MK is a 7 pin. I had the same thought though. |
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Post by ragan on Jul 5, 2018 21:55:28 GMT -6
Wish I could try it out tomorrow when it shows up but I'm not seeing that happening at this point.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 6, 2018 5:38:55 GMT -6
Do be careful with a non std cable as it may not be wired correctly for your mike ?
You can probably get the end connectors from mousser over night and I have a Gotham cable you can have for shipping if you want it ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 6, 2018 5:41:59 GMT -6
If you unscrew the bottom of the mike and remove shell, you will see the pin out colour coded by the wires inside the mike, the cable/connectors just needs to soldered following that same pattern.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 6, 2018 5:49:19 GMT -6
The E47C was the second-generation short-body U47 recreation from David Bock and Soundelux. The original E47 (no ‘C’) could be switched into multipattern mode, enabling a continuously-variable pattern-selection dial on the power supply. The E47C had no such option, due to feedback from the user community that the E47 was most commonly used in cardioid mode anyway.
The c should be 6 pin unless it was modded and probably not all pins are hot: maybe 4 and the commom ground.
Recording hacks has a good blurb with original spec sheet, but the pin out isn’t specified.
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 6, 2018 6:00:52 GMT -6
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Post by ragan on Jul 6, 2018 8:24:37 GMT -6
Thanks dude, that’s helpful info.
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Post by johneppstein on Jul 6, 2018 9:40:43 GMT -6
Call Dave Bock! 99% of the tube mic cables are pin 1 to pin 1, but there is always that one guy who has to be cute, plus he might feel sorry for you and give you a deal. Then call the store manager at the GC you bought it from and get a price adjustment! Much less hassle to give you some $ back than take the return and have to buy a cable! I also would want in writing my return window is being extended because you can’t QC the mic without a cable. This also might motivate a Sales weenie to really look for that cable. And Store Manager don’t talk to anybody else, confirm who you are talking to is the store manager on the web site. Dave Bock is the moderator of the mic forum on Terry Manning's site, PRW. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 6, 2018 9:55:46 GMT -6
Call Dave Bock! 99% of the tube mic cables are pin 1 to pin 1, but there is always that one guy who has to be cute, plus he might feel sorry for you and give you a deal. Then call the store manager at the GC you bought it from and get a price adjustment! Much less hassle to give you some $ back than take the return and have to buy a cable! I also would want in writing my return window is being extended because you can’t QC the mic without a cable. This also might motivate a Sales weenie to really look for that cable. And Store Manager don’t talk to anybody else, confirm who you are talking to is the store manager on the web site. Dave Bock is the moderator of the mic forum on Terry Manning's site, PRW. Yes he his, but for a possible purchase / price quote always best to do it in private. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 6, 2018 9:57:48 GMT -6
It honestly looks like about 8 solders in total ;4 at each end of cable ? The pin females cups are small, trick is to tin cup and lead and then melt some solder into the cub, then heat tinned lead and cup, insert lead , remove heat and don't forget to get some of the insulating heat shrink to isolate all leads from each other and instal around lead before soldering  |
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Post by ragan on Jul 6, 2018 10:04:30 GMT -6
It honestly looks like about 8 solders in total ;4 at each end of cable ? The pin females cups are small, trick is to tin cup and lead and then melt some solder into the cub, then heat tinned lead and cup, insert lead , remove heat and don't forget to get some of the insulating heat shrink to isolate all leads from each other and instal around lead before soldering Indeed. Would be easy once I had the wire/connectors. I just want to hear back from Bock/Soundelux before ordering stuff to make up a cable myself. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 6, 2018 11:36:04 GMT -6
good plan !
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