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Post by Tommy Harron on May 12, 2018 9:26:45 GMT -6
Hi, folks. I've been looking for that Sly Stone and Sparklehorse Flickinger sound for some time. Most especially a preamp that has an output attenuator or fader that would allow me to push the inputs with ease. The Skibbe pres look great, but don't have the output fader or a line input options. Then I came across this: www.cathedralguitar.com/Auction/Flickinger/TwinFlicks3/TwinFlicksHI.htmlAnyone familiar with Cathedral Guitar or the tech that may have put them together? Thank you! Tommy
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Post by jcoutu1 on May 12, 2018 9:28:33 GMT -6
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Post by Quint on May 12, 2018 9:37:20 GMT -6
Hmmmm.... 24v. I wonder if their opamps could be adapted to be used in my MCI and if they would sell some to me?
Edit: I see they do have some for sale on the site, though I don't know if they would make and sell enough to me to retrofit my console or if this would even work.
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Post by EmRR on May 12, 2018 10:08:11 GMT -6
IS that sound input drive? I'm not so sure.
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Post by Quint on May 12, 2018 10:48:42 GMT -6
IS that sound input drive? I'm not so sure. If you were responding to me, I'm not following your question.
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Post by notneeson on May 12, 2018 10:49:05 GMT -6
Hmmmm.... 24v. I wonder if their opamps could be adapted to be used in my MCI and if they would sell some to me? Edit: I see they do have some for sale on the site, though I don't know if they would make and sell enough to me to retrofit my console or if this would even work. You probably already know about these, yeah? sageelectronics.com/product/se-dot5-discrete-opamps/
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Post by Quint on May 12, 2018 10:52:43 GMT -6
Hmmmm.... 24v. I wonder if their opamps could be adapted to be used in my MCI and if they would sell some to me? Edit: I see they do have some for sale on the site, though I don't know if they would make and sell enough to me to retrofit my console or if this would even work. You probably already know about these, yeah? sageelectronics.com/product/se-dot5-discrete-opamps/Yes, I'm aware of these. However, seeing as how they're potted, you'll never be able to repair them, and Mr. Bova isn't exactly a spring chicken these days. I'd be worried about support going into the future and the ability to get replacements. I still may buy some of those Bovas eventually, but I like the idea of the opamps not being potted. Plus, it's Flickinger. So there's that too.
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Post by notneeson on May 12, 2018 10:55:55 GMT -6
Yes, I'm aware of these. However, seeing as how they're potted, you'll never be able to repair them, and Mr. Bova isn't exactly a spring chicken these days. I'd be worried about support going into the future and the ability to get replacements. I still may buy some of those Bovas eventually, but I like the idea of the opamps not being potted. Plus, it's Flickinger. So there's that too. Might be interesting to look at doing the master section and just buy plenty of spares? Dunno.
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Post by Quint on May 12, 2018 11:02:39 GMT -6
Yes, I'm aware of these. However, seeing as how they're potted, you'll never be able to repair them, and Mr. Bova isn't exactly a spring chicken these days. I'd be worried about support going into the future and the ability to get replacements. I still may buy some of those Bovas eventually, but I like the idea of the opamps not being potted. Plus, it's Flickinger. So there's that too. Might be interesting to look at doing the master section and just buy plenty of spares? Dunno. Yeah, I had considered doing that too. It's probably the most likely scenario. I had also kicked around designing my own opamps, or rather adapting a design which is a known entity, and just get like a 100 little pcbs printed that I could stuff with components and install into the MCI.
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Post by ericn on May 12, 2018 11:47:55 GMT -6
Might be interesting to look at doing the master section and just buy plenty of spares? Dunno. Yeah, I had considered doing that too. It's probably the most likely scenario. I had also kicked around designing my own opamps, or rather adapting a design which is a known entity, and just get like a 100 little pcbs printed that I could stuff with components and install into the MCI. I would buy Gary From GAR a couple of really good beers and try to get him on this, Gary and Scott Lieberman are my go to for Discreet OPAMPS!
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Post by iamasound on May 12, 2018 14:33:06 GMT -6
These look really creamy and well built. I love this bit of the description from their website..."The low end is full and bigly...".Bigly is good.
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Post by EmRR on May 12, 2018 14:43:19 GMT -6
IS that sound input drive? I'm not so sure. If you were responding to me, I'm not following your question. Nope, sorry, OP.
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Post by Tommy Harron on May 12, 2018 15:44:59 GMT -6
If you were responding to me, I'm not following your question. Nope, sorry, OP. As the OP, I'm not sure I follow your question either...
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Post by EmRR on May 12, 2018 16:01:02 GMT -6
I've been looking for that Sly Stone and Sparklehorse Flickinger sound for some time. Most especially a preamp that has an output attenuator or fader that would allow me to push the inputs with ease. IS that sound input drive? I'm not so sure. Trying again, I'm not sure what's inscrutable.
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Post by Tommy Harron on May 12, 2018 16:27:28 GMT -6
No, I don't think that those particular artists' records are exemplary of a pushed input, but it's nice to have.
Regarding what's inscrutable - it's always helpful when something is quoted. Thank you for clarifying your question.
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Post by Quint on May 16, 2018 6:56:56 GMT -6
Yeah, I had considered doing that too. It's probably the most likely scenario. I had also kicked around designing my own opamps, or rather adapting a design which is a known entity, and just get like a 100 little pcbs printed that I could stuff with components and install into the MCI. I would buy Gary From GAR a couple of really good beers and try to get him on this, Gary and Scott Lieberman are my go to for Discreet OPAMPS! That's a good idea. I didn't realize that they would do things like that. I'd pay them whatever was reasonable to design a little pcb which would plug into the sockets on my daughter boards. And then I could just build them out over time.
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Post by ericn on May 16, 2018 7:00:54 GMT -6
I would buy Gary From GAR a couple of really good beers and try to get him on this, Gary and Scott Lieberman are my go to for Discreet OPAMPS! That's a good idea. I didn't realize that they would do things like that. I'd pay them whatever was reasonable to design a little pcb which would plug into the sockets on my daughter boards. And then I could just build them out over time. I don’t know if Gary would do it but, he has away of nailing and doing it without breaking the bank! He is the only reason I can even think about a CAPI Sum Bus1!
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Post by jeremygillespie on May 16, 2018 7:37:51 GMT -6
That's a good idea. I didn't realize that they would do things like that. I'd pay them whatever was reasonable to design a little pcb which would plug into the sockets on my daughter boards. And then I could just build them out over time. I don’t know if Gary would do it but, he has away of nailing and doing it without breaking the bank! He is the only reason I can even think about a CAPI Sum Bus1! I'm down to 32 mins for each gar2520 build. I thought I was going to crack the 30 min mark on the last batch and just couldn't do it haha.
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Post by ericn on May 16, 2018 7:52:20 GMT -6
I don’t know if Gary would do it but, he has away of nailing and doing it without breaking the bank! He is the only reason I can even think about a CAPI Sum Bus1! I'm down to 32 mins for each gar2520 build. I thought I was going to crack the 30 min mark on the last batch and just couldn't do it haha. Jealous no where close, now if I had all my fingers, normal sensation and didn’t have a scratched cornea. So why do I do it ? Because in no world should I be able to and I can! My old OT put up a picture of a bunch of VP26’s I had built so they could point to it and say “ If Eric can do this you can get through this session, no pain no gain!” Of course the audio inverse is to much gain, ear pain!😁
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Post by Tommy Harron on May 29, 2018 12:13:21 GMT -6
Does anyone have any experience with these TwinFlicks or any other Flickinger pres and clones?
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Post by indiehouse on May 29, 2018 12:50:34 GMT -6
That's a good idea. I didn't realize that they would do things like that. I'd pay them whatever was reasonable to design a little pcb which would plug into the sockets on my daughter boards. And then I could just build them out over time. I don’t know if Gary would do it but, he has away of nailing and doing it without breaking the bank! He is the only reason I can even think about a CAPI Sum Bus1! I thought the SumBus just needs 2520 op amps on the outputs?
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Post by ericn on May 29, 2018 13:01:04 GMT -6
I don’t know if Gary would do it but, he has away of nailing and doing it without breaking the bank! He is the only reason I can even think about a CAPI Sum Bus1! I thought the SumBus just needs 2520 op amps on the outputs? Every picture I have seen so far shows a 2510 on each input so My budget might be blown I assumed 2520s stupid me.
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Post by indiehouse on May 29, 2018 13:07:39 GMT -6
I thought the SumBus just needs 2520 op amps on the outputs? Every picture I have seen so far shows a 2510 on each input so My budget might be blown I assumed 2520s stupid me. Right, I think they are Jeff’s DTO5 op amps on the inputs. I believe they are included and not extra like the 2520’s on the outs. Correct me if I’m wrong, though.
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Post by ericn on May 29, 2018 13:24:43 GMT -6
Every picture I have seen so far shows a 2510 on each input so My budget might be blown I assumed 2520s stupid me. Right, I think they are Jeff’s DTO5 op amps on the inputs. I believe they are included and not extra like the 2520’s on the outs. Correct me if I’m wrong, though. You are right, since the one with pots isn’t available I had not read the blurb on the CAPI site, suddenly somewhat more budget friendly
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Post by jsteiger on May 29, 2018 18:46:09 GMT -6
Every picture I have seen so far shows a 2510 on each input so My budget might be blown I assumed 2520s stupid me. Right, I think they are Jeff’s DTO5 op amps on the inputs. I believe they are included and not extra like the 2520’s on the outs. Correct me if I’m wrong, though. Correct you are!
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