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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 26, 2019 15:51:18 GMT -6
I am referring to the confusion from a previous review which seemed to be about the whole unit but was apparently only of the di ?
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 26, 2019 17:18:51 GMT -6
After reading on this whole DI thing on other pages and forums, it seems like most folks do not go into a DI like the ones on so many preamps, they buy a separate official DI’s and xlr it to the mic input where they can enjoy the preamp fully. When I see a DI on the front of a unit I want to plug right in, I don’t use amps to record and it just seems easy, I think I should invest in a proper DI and see what I may be missing ?
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Post by sirthought on Jul 26, 2019 18:45:12 GMT -6
It’s kind of Important to realize the di is not the pre. Not sure what you mean by that. IMO, they are in fact two in the same. I might like the handling of a car, but not the power delivery, but they are one in the same. I view the DI of a pre, and the pre itself the same way. Okay, but this isn't the first piece of gear where the D.I. isn't going into the input transformer the same as the mic input. I think a LOT of pieces are like that. Don't know why, but it's an observation. I thought it sounded pretty good still here. I'm sure it's depending on the song and what you are tracking.
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Post by Blackdawg on Jul 26, 2019 18:55:28 GMT -6
It’s kind of Important to realize the di is not the pre. Not sure what you mean by that. IMO, they are in fact two in the same. I might like the handling of a car, but not the power delivery, but they are one in the same. I view the DI of a pre, and the pre itself the same way. Really? There are so many pre amps that the DI doesn't follow the whole circuit of the pre.
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Post by phantom on Jul 26, 2019 19:17:01 GMT -6
After reading on this whole DI thing on other pages and forums, it seems like most folks do not go into a DI like the ones on so many preamps, they buy a separate official DI’s and xlr it to the mic input where they can enjoy the preamp fully. When I see a DI on the front of a unit I want to plug right in, I don’t use amps to record and it just seems easy, I think I should invest in a proper DI and see what I may be missing ? Using an external DI box and plugin into the mic input of the preamp of your choice would for sure give you the maximum flexibility and use your preamp in the best way possible.
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 26, 2019 19:18:10 GMT -6
Even my 1084 doesn't go through the Carnhill transformer when plugged into the front DI, but after looking at the prices for decent DI boxes, i think i will pass, i can't picture the sound getting any better than it already is, but I'm still curious lol
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 26, 2019 19:19:49 GMT -6
After reading on this whole DI thing on other pages and forums, it seems like most folks do not go into a DI like the ones on so many preamps, they buy a separate official DI’s and xlr it to the mic input where they can enjoy the preamp fully. When I see a DI on the front of a unit I want to plug right in, I don’t use amps to record and it just seems easy, I think I should invest in a proper DI and see what I may be missing ? Using an external DI box and plugin into the mic input of the preamp of your choice would for sure give you the maximum flexibility and use your preamp in the best way possible. Can you define flexibility ? because when I'm using the front DI, it sounds big and clear and i can engage the eq and do whatever my heart desires ?
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Post by phantom on Jul 26, 2019 19:59:26 GMT -6
Using an external DI box and plugin into the mic input of the preamp of your choice would for sure give you the maximum flexibility and use your preamp in the best way possible. Can you define flexibility ? because when I'm using the front DI, it sounds big and clear and i can engage the eq and do whatever my heart desires ? The flexibility comes from being able to use different DIs combining with different preamps, some that don't even have a front DI.
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 26, 2019 20:49:36 GMT -6
Can you define flexibility ? because when I'm using the front DI, it sounds big and clear and i can engage the eq and do whatever my heart desires ? The flexibility comes from being able to use different DIs combining with different preamps, some that don't even have a front DI. That makes sense, if i were to try the DI route, i would like to have a DI box that doesn't affect the sound too much because id be going through a transformer in the mic preamp. But I'm sure each DI sounds different.
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Post by drbill on Jul 26, 2019 21:08:32 GMT -6
Not sure what you mean by that. IMO, they are in fact two in the same. I might like the handling of a car, but not the power delivery, but they are one in the same. I view the DI of a pre, and the pre itself the same way. Really? There are so many pre amps that the DI doesn't follow the whole circuit of the pre. The architecture of signal flow doesn’t preclude that it’s the SAME piece as f gear. It could have had a killer di or a crappy one that doesn’t go thru the transformer too. It’s still the same piece of gear
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 27, 2019 5:24:11 GMT -6
Just for fun I think I will plug my bass into the front panel of the ensemble, (has JFET) or go directly into the back of the ensemble then go out of the ensemble into the mic input and see what it sounds like ? It’s Saturday
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Post by phantom on Jul 27, 2019 6:00:25 GMT -6
Just for fun I think I will plug my bass into the front panel of the ensemble, (has JFET) or go directly into the back of the ensemble then go out of the ensemble into the mic input and see what it sounds like ? It’s Saturday The signal will come out line level, and with a DI box it would come out mic level. But should work the same. Have you compared the DI of the ensemble with the DI of the BAE? That might be interesting.
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 27, 2019 6:27:32 GMT -6
Just for fun I think I will plug my bass into the front panel of the ensemble, (has JFET) or go directly into the back of the ensemble then go out of the ensemble into the mic input and see what it sounds like ? It’s Saturday The signal will come out line level, and with a DI box it would come out mic level. But should work the same. Have you compared the DI of the ensemble with the DI of the BAE? That might be interesting. Good to know. I have compared the two DI's, the Apogee is great but ultra clean, the BAE is also clean with a little more color or character.
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 5, 2019 1:27:16 GMT -6
So anyone compare these to the ez1073 yet?
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 5, 2019 18:45:05 GMT -6
Good to know. I have compared the two DI's, the Apogee is great but ultra clean, the BAE is also clean with a little more color or character. Fk it Ill say it. Ur something dude. I seen u swangin nuts on stam facebook page about how their stuff is the greatest units u ever heard then seeing ur posts on various YouTube and forums asking people how it sounds and now praising Bae. Wtf is wrong with u. How can you claim to be the expert authority and never even tried it. I'm dumfounded Ok. Chill.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 19:05:32 GMT -6
Fk it Ill say it. Ur something dude. I seen u swangin nuts on stam facebook page about how their stuff is the greatest units u ever heard then seeing ur posts on various YouTube and forums asking people how it sounds and now praising Bae. Wtf is wrong with u. How can you claim to be the expert authority and never even tried it. I'm dumfounded Ok. Chill. It's just puzzling but ur right let's keep on topic
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 5, 2019 19:30:54 GMT -6
Ooookay..
So for the 5th time I think..
Any comparisons to the ez1073??
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2019 19:36:43 GMT -6
Ooookay.. So for the 5th time I think.. Any comparisons to the ez1073?? I'll speculate and say they all will sound good. Just pick a clone and run with it unless u got deep pockets for a vintage. I'm sure they all will be close since all use pretty much same components. I haven't heard nothing bad about aml ever, not once
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 5, 2019 20:01:36 GMT -6
Ooookay.. So for the 5th time I think.. Any comparisons to the ez1073?? No
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Post by lando on Sept 5, 2019 20:13:10 GMT -6
Ooookay.. So for the 5th time I think.. Any comparisons to the ez1073?? I have both but have been gigging 24/7 since I got the Stam so I haven’t even fired them up.. I can try to do some comparisons and post next week! My guess is that they will sound very similar.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 5, 2019 21:01:11 GMT -6
Ooookay.. So for the 5th time I think.. Any comparisons to the ez1073?? I have both but have been gigging 24/7 since I got the Stam so I haven’t even fired them up.. I can try to do some comparisons and post next week! My guess is that they will sound very similar. You get the Carnhill trans?
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Post by lando on Sept 5, 2019 23:22:07 GMT -6
I have both but have been gigging 24/7 since I got the Stam so I haven’t even fired them up.. I can try to do some comparisons and post next week! My guess is that they will sound very similar. You get the Carnhill trans? Sowter output tranny, while the EZ1073s has carnhill, so I’m theory I guess they could be different, but still, preamps of the same type tends to sound more alike than most people think. /runs
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Post by notneeson on Sept 6, 2019 15:09:20 GMT -6
You get the Carnhill trans? Sowter output tranny, while the EZ1073s has carnhill, so I’m theory I guess they could be different, but still, preamps of the same type tends to sound more alike than most people think. /runs Speaking of Sowter, I have been using the Great River NV2 lately and it’s my new favorite “clone”. Great sounding DI, and I usually prefer my Radial. Sorry if I’m off topic! The GR makes me super curious to try the Stam with Sowter output.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 6, 2019 18:44:48 GMT -6
I posted this somewhere...but it seems like all my favorite pres have Sowters.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 6, 2019 18:57:14 GMT -6
I posted this somewhere...but it seems like all my favorite pres have Sowters. Sans the CAPI Plats
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