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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 17, 2019 18:32:21 GMT -6
oh is that right? i guess it can happen to any of the equipment. btw how do you like heritage sound in comparison to stam. i heard audio samples separately online but never them heard it back to back in a shootout. I had issues with my Heritage Elite 1073 as well. The first batch all had loose tension HPF knobs because they had the wrong ones delivered, but they were in a race to get them out at the same time as Warm’s 1073 so they just shipped them anyway. My DI either died or was always dead. I tried contacting Heritage several times over a period of a couple months and never got a response. Upon posting about that on a forum, the distributor said I should contact them, but it doesn’t say that anything about that on the Heritage website. I’ve shot out the Stam mkii with Sowters against BAE and Heritage and Warm. I probably still have the clips somewhere. The Heritage and BAE have a similar tone but the BAE has more detail and life to it. The Stam is darker and smoother with more low mids. I’ve kept the Stam and BAE after owning all of those. Mine was on a 1073 500. But I had the Elite too with the wimpy hpf. That unit was not my bag.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 18:38:25 GMT -6
oh is that right? i guess it can happen to any of the equipment. btw how do you like heritage sound in comparison to stam. i heard audio samples separately online but never them heard it back to back in a shootout. I had issues with my Heritage Elite 1073 as well. The first batch all had loose tension HPF knobs because they had the wrong ones delivered, but they were in a race to get them out at the same time as Warm’s 1073 so they just shipped them anyway. My DI either died or was always dead. I tried contacting Heritage several times over a period of a couple months and never got a response. Upon posting about that on a forum, the distributor said I should contact them, but it doesn’t say that anything about that on the Heritage website. I’ve shot out the Stam mkii with Sowters against BAE and Heritage and Warm. I probably still have the clips somewhere. The Heritage and BAE have a similar tone but the BAE has more detail and life to it. The Stam is darker and smoother with more low mids. I’ve kept the Stam and BAE after owning all of those. Elite is their low cost alternative. I wonder how stam fare against the more expensive dma 73. I would be pissed if Noone responded to a defective item. didn't you contact the dealer whoever you purchased from? Or file with ur cc company. It sure wouldn't come out of my pocket. Stam darker and smoother description sounds awesome. This is hearsay but I did hear vintage also sounds dark? But idk.. My Stam is on backorderd, can't wait
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Post by wiz on Jul 17, 2019 19:53:05 GMT -6
I had issues with my Heritage Elite 1073 as well. The first batch all had loose tension HPF knobs because they had the wrong ones delivered, but they were in a race to get them out at the same time as Warm’s 1073 so they just shipped them anyway. My DI either died or was always dead. I tried contacting Heritage several times over a period of a couple months and never got a response. Upon posting about that on a forum, the distributor said I should contact them, but it doesn’t say that anything about that on the Heritage website. I’ve shot out the Stam mkii with Sowters against BAE and Heritage and Warm. I probably still have the clips somewhere. The Heritage and BAE have a similar tone but the BAE has more detail and life to it. The Stam is darker and smoother with more low mids. I’ve kept the Stam and BAE after owning all of those. Elite is their low cost alternative. I wonder how stam fare against the more expensive dma 73. If u would be pissed if Noone responded to a defective item. didn't you contact the dealer whoever you purchased from? Or file with ur cc company. It sure wouldn't come out of my pocket. Stam darker and smoother description sounds awesome. This is hearsay but I did hear vintage also sounds dark? But idk.. My Stam is on backorderd, can't wait My BAE 73DMP is softer and darker than my AML EZ1073-500 (which I dont use much actually the DMP gets used ALL THE TIME) Cheers WIz
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 18, 2019 8:49:43 GMT -6
Elite is their low cost alternative. I wonder how stam fare against the more expensive dma 73. If u would be pissed if Noone responded to a defective item. didn't you contact the dealer whoever you purchased from? Or file with ur cc company. It sure wouldn't come out of my pocket. Stam darker and smoother description sounds awesome. This is hearsay but I did hear vintage also sounds dark? But idk.. My Stam is on backorderd, can't wait My BAE 73DMP is softer and darker than my AML EZ1073-500 (which I dont use much actually the DMP gets used ALL THE TIME) Cheers WIz By my memory, the stam sounds much more like the BAE than the Heritage versions.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 8:52:40 GMT -6
My BAE 73DMP is softer and darker than my AML EZ1073-500 (which I dont use much actually the DMP gets used ALL THE TIME) Cheers WIz By my memory, the stam sounds much more like the BAE than the Heritage versions. are you talking about the sowter version or the standard? was it the 500 jr version?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 18, 2019 15:20:37 GMT -6
I think the Stam Sowter version sounds similar to the high end BAE 1073. I think BAE uses Carnhill output transformers...but I thought it was darker than the Heritage 1073-500.
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Post by matt@IAA on Jul 18, 2019 15:48:55 GMT -6
It would be interesting to see frequency response and FFD to quantify "dark" as high end loss or differences in harmonic distortion.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 18, 2019 16:25:12 GMT -6
It would be interesting to see frequency response and FFD to quantify "dark" as high end loss or differences in harmonic distortion. Yeah no idea. But one sounds brighter than the other to me.
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Post by Ward on Jul 19, 2019 6:58:04 GMT -6
Anyone received one of these units in the pat couple of weeks?
I'd really like to see some fresh internal pictures please!
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Post by stam on Jul 19, 2019 7:58:23 GMT -6
They sold out until 2020
Carnhill brighter, open Sowter, more low end, silkier
This version of the Sowter is only made for us by the way
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 22, 2019 16:59:34 GMT -6
oh is that right? i guess it can happen to any of the equipment. btw how do you like heritage sound in comparison to stam. i heard audio samples separately online but never them heard it back to back in a shootout. I had issues with my Heritage Elite 1073 as well. The first batch all had loose tension HPF knobs because they had the wrong ones delivered, but they were in a race to get them out at the same time as Warm’s 1073 so they just shipped them anyway. My DI either died or was always dead. I tried contacting Heritage several times over a period of a couple months and never got a response. Upon posting about that on a forum, the distributor said I should contact them, but it doesn’t say that anything about that on the Heritage website. I’ve shot out the Stam mkii with Sowters against BAE and Heritage and Warm. I probably still have the clips somewhere. The Heritage and BAE have a similar tone but the BAE has more detail and life to it. The Stam is darker and smoother with more low mids. I’ve kept the Stam and BAE after owning all of those. The Stam is without a doubt much darker, the detail in my Bae 1084's is much more present. It depends on what you like, i like to plug into a preamp and here exactly what my source sounds like, then change it accordingly to my taste, As you can hear in these two clips without any EQ engaged, the Bae has much more detail. But to be fair, Stam's 1073 isn't supposed to sound like a BAE, it is modeled after the vintage Neve 1073 which i don't have to compare.
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Post by matt@IAA on Jul 22, 2019 17:07:08 GMT -6
Those are dramatically different. Can you describe how you did that tests? They're different takes
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 22, 2019 17:12:08 GMT -6
Those are dramatically different. Can you describe how you did that tests? They're different takes I plugged my bass into the sStam 1073 without the eq engaged and did a take, then i plugged into my 1084 without the eq engaged and did it again. Dramatic difference, absolutely. Has nothing to do with different takes.
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Post by wiz on Jul 22, 2019 17:22:08 GMT -6
Stam sounds killer
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Post by phantom on Jul 22, 2019 18:03:04 GMT -6
I had issues with my Heritage Elite 1073 as well. The first batch all had loose tension HPF knobs because they had the wrong ones delivered, but they were in a race to get them out at the same time as Warm’s 1073 so they just shipped them anyway. My DI either died or was always dead. I tried contacting Heritage several times over a period of a couple months and never got a response. Upon posting about that on a forum, the distributor said I should contact them, but it doesn’t say that anything about that on the Heritage website. I’ve shot out the Stam mkii with Sowters against BAE and Heritage and Warm. I probably still have the clips somewhere. The Heritage and BAE have a similar tone but the BAE has more detail and life to it. The Stam is darker and smoother with more low mids. I’ve kept the Stam and BAE after owning all of those. The Stam is without a doubt much darker, the detail in my Bae 1084's is much more present. It depends on what you like, i like to plug into a preamp and here exactly what my source sounds like, then change it accordingly to my taste, As you can hear in these two clips without any EQ engaged, the Bae has much more detail. But to be fair, Stam's 1073 isn't supposed to sound like a BAE, it is modeled after the vintage Neve 1073 which i don't have to compare. Can you record a guitar trough the DI with the Stam and the BAE? I would like to hear how it compares with a source with much more high end. Looks to me, by the examples, that the Stam DI is faulty. No DI should modify that much the source. Btw, I have seen a Stam 1073 with a faulty DI.
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 22, 2019 18:20:26 GMT -6
The Stam is without a doubt much darker, the detail in my Bae 1084's is much more present. It depends on what you like, i like to plug into a preamp and here exactly what my source sounds like, then change it accordingly to my taste, As you can hear in these two clips without any EQ engaged, the Bae has much more detail. But to be fair, Stam's 1073 isn't supposed to sound like a BAE, it is modeled after the vintage Neve 1073 which i don't have to compare. Can you record a guitar trough the DI with the Stam and the BAE? I would like to hear how it compares with a source with much more high end. Looks to me, by the examples, that the Stam DI is faulty. No DI should modify that much the source. Btw, I have seen a Stam 1073 with a faulty DI. I don't have the Stam's anymore so i can't do another test, but it would be the same with a guitar. I had two of them and tried it with both and it was the same result. I thought the preamps sounded great, just a little too dark my my taste. But maybe in transit they were dropped a few times, we all know how these guys treat our packages lol.
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 22, 2019 18:42:38 GMT -6
Can you record a guitar trough the DI with the Stam and the BAE? I would like to hear how it compares with a source with much more high end. Looks to me, by the examples, that the Stam DI is faulty. No DI should modify that much the source. Btw, I have seen a Stam 1073 with a faulty DI. I don't have the Stam's anymore so i can't do another test, but it would be the same with a guitar. I had two of them and tried it with both and it was the same result. I thought the preamps sounded great, just a little too dark my my taste. But maybe in transit they were dropped a few times, we all know how these guys treat our packages lol. I think he was asking if you tried the mic input for comparison, suggesting that the DI is causing a roll off. I don’t have a BAE, but I compared my Stam 1073EQ’s with my EZ1290’s (Carnhill Iron). They sounded pretty similar on the quick vocal test I did.
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Post by phantom on Jul 22, 2019 18:50:33 GMT -6
I don't have the Stam's anymore so i can't do another test, but it would be the same with a guitar. I had two of them and tried it with both and it was the same result. I thought the preamps sounded great, just a little too dark my my taste. But maybe in transit they were dropped a few times, we all know how these guys treat our packages lol. I think he was asking if you tried the mic input for comparison, suggesting that the DI is causing a roll off. I don’t have a BAE, but I compared my Stam 1073EQ’s with my EZ1290’s (Carnhill Iron). They sounded pretty similar on the quick vocal test I did. No, I was talking about the DI. With a guitar would be much more clear if it is working properly or not. Yeah, you shouldn't expect huge differences between two similar preamps. Even if it was an API and a Neve, you shouldn't expect the differences to be that drastic.
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 22, 2019 18:58:00 GMT -6
I didn't plug in a mic at all, once i heard what was going on with the DI.
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Post by phantom on Jul 22, 2019 19:15:17 GMT -6
I didn't plug in a mic at all, once i heard what was going on with the DI. I thought you said that this was the best preamp you have ever used. Rich low end and crisp and airy top end. Anyway, looks to me that the DI is sucking all the high end. I would like to hear with a source with more high end than a bass to confirm that, but that would not be possible.
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Post by Quint on Jul 22, 2019 20:24:30 GMT -6
I didn't plug in a mic at all, once i heard what was going on with the DI. I thought you said that this was the best preamp you have ever used. Rich low end and crisp and airy top end. Anyway, looks to me that the DI is sucking all the high end. I would like to hear with a source with more high end than a bass to confirm that, but that would not be possible. Yeah, are you sure there wasn't some sort of impedance issue going on with the DI on the Stam and your guitar? All joking aside, This is the Best preamp and EQ I’ve ever used, Without the eq the preamp has an awesome forward presence, with the EQ engaged it has a beautifully rich low end with a top end that is crisp and airy, thank you Stam Audio. I don't understand how you can say that the Stam's are the best preamps you've ever used when you haven't ever even plugged a mic into them.....?
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 22, 2019 20:27:55 GMT -6
I need to try my DI again...not that I would really ever use it...but it sounded weird to me when I did. I'll try it when I get it back.
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Post by indiehouse on Jul 22, 2019 21:14:15 GMT -6
All joking aside, This is the Best preamp and EQ I’ve ever used, Without the eq the preamp has an awesome forward presence, with the EQ engaged it has a beautifully rich low end with a top end that is crisp and airy, thank you Stam Audio. I didn't plug in a mic at all, once i heard what was going on with the DI. Confoosed.
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Post by kilroyrock on Jul 23, 2019 8:28:35 GMT -6
My first complaint I had checked was with the DI on the unit. I had to crank it to use it, and it had a lot of "air" involved. It was checked out and it's just supposed to be like that. If you take off the mod so that it was louder, there is a ton of noise, so the circuit was back to stock there. That missing yellow capacitor on the right in the pictures is the fix for the DI noise from what i'm told. It all depends on how you plan to use the DI, I'll probably use my RNDI and send it through the mic input for almost everything anyway. Loving the unit that way.
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Post by Derek Reese on Jul 23, 2019 11:06:17 GMT -6
I loved it until i compared it to my 1084's, i had the Stam's for less than a week and then bought the 1084's and compared them. Thats all i can say
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