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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 29, 2014 20:51:48 GMT -6
This is a cool thought. Maybe even take it a step further. Have a sticky thread at the top with only compression files of this track and keep this thread as a convo thread. People could submit different compression files to be added to the sticky. I have a handful of hardware comps that I could run it through. Sal did this once on the purple site. Probably the best thread on the whole forum. Pretty sure you can still look it up. It's an old thread. So let's get a modern take here. More comps ate coming out daily.
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Post by littlesicily on Jan 29, 2014 21:15:46 GMT -6
Just for kicks, Sal you could run that file through the Sta Level and show the boys the comparison(the benchmark to which all other vocal compressors bow down). Wait, I guess I could too for that matter. Thanks for taking the time to do this. Oh man, that'll just take all the fun out of this 1176 party I actually have the STA file in another thread here with the massive comp shootout, if u wanna hear it. It's the same shootout from GS that cowboycoalminer referred to that I also posted here. realgear.freeforums.net/thread/53/massive-hardware-compressor-shootout-software
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Post by matt on Jan 29, 2014 21:22:31 GMT -6
Time to sell that STA then ;-) Not yet on that one for me :-) Maybe never! The salient thing is, "as time goes by". Lots of time, I think. Won't be ridding myself of the Notre Dame/Ventura/STA any time soon. My vocalist would disown me. Actually, I was referring to the mixing side of things, the whole ITB/Hybrid discussion. I am going to see if ITB works for me. We'll see. My Midas F32 is already lonely, disconnected and covered. I know, it's a travesty.
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Post by littlesicily on Jan 29, 2014 21:25:25 GMT -6
Anyone try the Slate dragon? Isn't it supposed to be an 1176 cop? I'v heard mixed reviews... Some say it's great, other's (unnamed top nashville mix guy) who have vintage say it doesn't live up to the hype.
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Post by matt on Jan 29, 2014 22:30:17 GMT -6
Anyone try the Slate dragon? Isn't it supposed to be an 1176 cop? I'v heard mixed reviews... Some say it's great, other's (unnamed top nashville mix guy) who have vintage say it doesn't live up to the hype. I have two. They are not passing signal these days. I plan on revisiting them to see if it's me that has the problem. The Dragon has a lot of controls, as opposed to the STA, so I might be abusing the thing. Somehow, anything put through them sounds smaller. Not the preferred result.
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Post by RicFoxx on Jan 29, 2014 23:17:52 GMT -6
This may be treason...but how about the Lindell piece, 1176ish.
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Post by joey808 on Jan 30, 2014 0:02:07 GMT -6
I just added the unprocessed original file to post#2. i'll post the splice today. Send mike a message on facebook if you're curious about acquiring some splices, he has a lot of them left from his final run that just need to be assembled. I be interested in one of those splices.
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 30, 2014 0:10:29 GMT -6
Ok, I wasn't sure if I should send this to someone, but I'm just putting in the post. It's the U76, I did a few substitutions from the original BOM from David, resistor and cap types. Not sure if it will sound any different, but it'd be interesting if someone could hear anything different.
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Post by levon on Jan 30, 2014 0:45:48 GMT -6
I'll run the source file through my Proreplicas Rev. D when it arrives. Will probably be another 2 weeks though, if you can be patient.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 30, 2014 6:31:11 GMT -6
Pro Replicas can make a Revision D?
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Post by henge on Jan 30, 2014 6:39:22 GMT -6
I'll run the source file through my Proreplicas Rev. D when it arrives. Will probably be another 2 weeks though, if you can be patient. I want to hear this. Maybe it brings me closer to a decision. At over 3 grand the retro will have to wait...sadly.
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Post by levon on Jan 30, 2014 8:20:55 GMT -6
Pro Replicas can make a Revision D? Looks like I am getting the first one...
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 30, 2014 14:25:28 GMT -6
Is there a reason the files won't play? I get the / through the play button? What am I missing? I'm on an iPad btw
Thanx
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 30, 2014 15:38:24 GMT -6
Mine wouldn't play on a phone either...but laptop works of course...
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 30, 2014 15:52:49 GMT -6
Mine wouldn't play on a phone either...but laptop works of course... That excludes me then, I have an iPhone and an iPad only right now
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 30, 2014 18:29:38 GMT -6
Ah. I know why the files won't work on mobile devices - they're downloads, not streams. Probably would have been better to post to soundcloud...but we're too far in now.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Jan 30, 2014 21:40:56 GMT -6
Someone could post them to drop box. They should stream from there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2014 22:52:56 GMT -6
Ok here are my 4 for the Splice, along with my methodology: First, i loaded the file into my daw, looped that "God" at the end, and then stuck a level meter plugin on RMS mode. it came up to -10dbFS Next, I loaded a Test Osc plugin, and set the output to -10dbFS and verified the RMS level was the same via a level meter plugin set to RMS Next i set up the splice for each of the 4 modes: First I fed the Test osc into the splice Next i turn up the Input knob until the Splice meter shows somewhere near -15. the splice meter is small, so i'm just guessing: www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/so-much-gear-so-little-time/322827d1356674075-1176-compressor-revision-vs-revision-d-serpent_splice_promo.jpgFinally, I turn up the Output knob until the meter in Maestro shows -10. Now I can confirm i'm feeding the unit with -10dbFS RMS sine, getting ~15dB of Gain Reduction, and getting a -10dbFS signal back. the files are named based on their Pre/Out setting. *edit: links removed. see later post for link to updated files with proper GR*
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Post by henge on Jan 31, 2014 10:19:05 GMT -6
I just want to put this out there. Could one of the reasons the urei's sound so good be because of age? The WA76 is brand spankin new and the Urei's are beautifully aged. Maybe...?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 31, 2014 10:54:17 GMT -6
That might very well be part of the equation henge.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 31, 2014 10:57:53 GMT -6
So, Ward...how's that Bluestripe sound?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2014 11:40:42 GMT -6
littlesicily you can add my links to the first post if you want. or you could download them, and add them to the first post so they're hosted on the forum. Dropbox is streamable, tho. Just let me know if I can remove them from my dropbox at some point :-)
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Post by littlesicily on Jan 31, 2014 12:24:49 GMT -6
littlesicily you can add my links to the first post if you want. or you could download them, and add them to the first post so they're hosted on the forum. Dropbox is streamable, tho. Just let me know if I can remove them from my dropbox at some point :-) I tried to copy/paste your links to first post but it's not working. Also, this site only allows 8 attachments per post so i can't add any more to it. If I add more, it'll be way down in the thread and hard to find. Wonder if the offsite hosting thing is a better idea, though I don't have time to do it. Any takers on posting all the files to soundcloud or dropbox? If so, send me the links and I'll put them in the 1st post. Johnkenn @matkatmusic
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Post by jcoutu1 on Jan 31, 2014 12:40:36 GMT -6
I don't think listening to shootout files on Soundcloud is the best option. Soundcloud will degrade the files and we won't be able to load them into our DAW's. Can Johnkenn just add a post in with his wizardly powers?
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Post by littlesicily on Jan 31, 2014 12:45:54 GMT -6
I did a quick listen to the Splice files... they seem to be compressing a lot more than the others... the breath before the last phrase "leave to Thy" is so loud and then the vocal is squashed... these things are tough to match when done in several locations. @matkatmusic thanks for running the files and posting.
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