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Post by jrasia on Aug 25, 2017 5:18:44 GMT -6
There seems to be a GRS hit piece doing the rounds of the forums which has different first time posters repeating the identical story without citing the original source. Noticed that too. Really turned me off of that product.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2017 16:23:34 GMT -6
Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with the Neotek Essence ?
I have seen a small sidecar locally for sale.
I think it's a film / tv desk, i don't know if it has any relation to any of the bigger desks parts wise.
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Post by rowmat on Aug 26, 2017 16:48:13 GMT -6
Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with the Neotek Essence ? I have seen a small sidecar locally for sale. I think it's a film / tv desk, i don't know if it has any relation to any of the bigger desks parts wise. I think a number of the Neotek models share some common components probably to do with manufacturing efficiency/costs but I don't know how close say the EQ's (and maybe summing) would be which I assume would be primary factor for buying something like a sidecar. You could try posting some questions on the Neotek users Google group forum. groups.google.com/forum/m/#!forum/neotekusers
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Post by rowmat on Aug 26, 2017 17:22:32 GMT -6
After removing the black paint from the meter bridge timber I treated it with Tung Oil. There's still a few more coats and some hand rubbing to go.
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Post by ericn on Aug 26, 2017 17:39:18 GMT -6
Does anyone have any thoughts or experience with the Neotek Essence ? I have seen a small sidecar locally for sale. I think it's a film / tv desk, i don't know if it has any relation to any of the bigger desks parts wise. Larking got one for sale in the U.K., it was a broadcast desk, bit limited by they do sound nice!
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Post by ericn on Aug 26, 2017 17:40:42 GMT -6
After removing the black paint from the meter bridge timber I treated it with Tung Oil. There's still a few more coats and some hand rubbing to go. View AttachmentLooking good ! I suggest some custom monitor platforms that clamp to the wood top!
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Post by rowmat on Aug 26, 2017 17:43:45 GMT -6
After removing the black paint from the meter bridge timber I treated it with Tung Oil. There's still a few more coats and some hand rubbing to go. Looking good ! I suggest some custom monitor platforms that clamp to the wood top! Yeah I've have those on my list. There'll be some Neumann KH120 nearfields and a mono active Avantone.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 5, 2017 16:24:29 GMT -6
mdmitch2 I shifted all the channel modules to the right in order to open up the left hand patchbay section to 19". By removing some blanking panels I managed to also create a second 19" wide section (13 RU) on the right where the producer's desk was located. It's easy to widen or narrow these bays by removing the screws that fix the vertical mounting strips to the cross rails and then sliding them to wherever you want them.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Sept 5, 2017 16:35:03 GMT -6
That's coming along nicely rowmat!
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Post by mdmitch2 on Sept 5, 2017 17:35:47 GMT -6
Nice! I might end up doing that with mine... although I think I might rather create a space in the center for a monitor and keyboard. Of course that would likely be a ton of work, as I'm sure the wiring would need to be lengthened.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 5, 2017 18:01:35 GMT -6
Nice! I might end up doing that with mine... although I think I might rather create a space in the center for a monitor and keyboard. Of course that would likely be a ton of work, as I'm sure the wiring would need to be lengthened. I finally found that picture of the console with the centre space you posted a while back. I vaguely thought it was your Neotek but it's an API. realgearonline.com/post/81894The Elite frame sizes we have would seem to be able to accomodate up to maybe another 12 channels with some shuffling at the expense of the producer's desk. This would make 44 mono channels plus 8 stereo channels giving a total of 60 channels all up. Of course one would need to add the additional metering and patchbay points. Anyway I'm just thinking out loud and I'll just stick to what I've got but I kind of like being able to fit some additional outboard into the console frame itself.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Sept 5, 2017 19:42:34 GMT -6
I finally found that picture of the console with the centre space you posted a while back. I vaguely thought it was your Neotek but it's an API. realgearonline.com/post/81894The Elite frame sizes we have would seem to be able to accomodate up to maybe another 12 channels with some shuffling at the expense of the producer's desk. This would make 44 mono channels plus 8 stereo channels giving a total of 60 channels all up. Of course one would need to add the additional metering and patchbay points. Anyway I'm just thinking out loud and I'll just stick to what I've got but I kind of like being able to fit some additional outboard into the console frame itself. Ah yeah I forgot I posted that.... I also did the math on adding more channels. My producers desk is 24", plus I have 3 blank spaces, so I could actually fit an extra 16 channels. It's pretty tempting.....
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Post by rowmat on Sept 5, 2017 21:20:16 GMT -6
I finally found that picture of the console with the centre space you posted a while back. I vaguely thought it was your Neotek but it's an API. realgearonline.com/post/81894The Elite frame sizes we have would seem to be able to accomodate up to maybe another 12 channels with some shuffling at the expense of the producer's desk. This would make 44 mono channels plus 8 stereo channels giving a total of 60 channels all up. Of course one would need to add the additional metering and patchbay points. Anyway I'm just thinking out loud and I'll just stick to what I've got but I kind of like being able to fit some additional outboard into the console frame itself. Ah yeah I forgot I posted that.... I also did the math on adding more channels. My producers desk is 24", plus I have 3 blank spaces, so I could actually fit an extra 16 channels. It's pretty tempting..... With two power supplies you should be ok if you wanted to max out the channel count. My CPC connectors turned up but in hindsight I should have ordered those Neutrik Speakon 8 ways. I've just rung a local dealer and they have the Neutriks in stock so I'll pick up some tomorrow. Just wondering how did you wire up yours? With only 8 connections rather than 9 (to allow for separate grounds) it appears two of the grounds will need to be commoned together. Is this what you did?
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Post by brucerothwell on Sept 6, 2017 8:16:45 GMT -6
mdmitch2 I shifted all the channel modules to the right in order to open up the left hand patchbay section to 19". By removing some blanking panels I managed to also create a second 19" wide section (13 RU) on the right where the producer's desk was located. It's easy to widen or narrow these bays by removing the screws that fix the vertical mounting strips to the cross rails and then sliding them to wherever you want them. Now that is what I like.... a "balanced" mixing console! (as in, symetrical... get it??!!)
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Post by rowmat on Sept 6, 2017 11:05:24 GMT -6
mdmitch2 I shifted all the channel modules to the right in order to open up the left hand patchbay section to 19". By removing some blanking panels I managed to also create a second 19" wide section (13 RU) on the right where the producer's desk was located. It's easy to widen or narrow these bays by removing the screws that fix the vertical mounting strips to the cross rails and then sliding them to wherever you want them. Now that is what I like.... a "balanced" mixing console! (as in, symetrical... get it??!!) Yeah but I'm not sure how balanced the operator is!
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 6, 2017 11:33:09 GMT -6
Check, is your plug trs ?
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Post by mdmitch2 on Sept 6, 2017 14:25:21 GMT -6
With two power supplies you should be ok if you wanted to max out the channel count. My CPC connectors turned up but in hindsight I should have ordered those Neutrik Speakon 8 ways. I've just rung a local dealer and they have the Neutriks in stock so I'll pick up some tomorrow. Just wondering how did you wire up yours? With only 8 connections rather than 9 (to allow for separate grounds) it appears two of the grounds will need to be commoned together. Is this what you did? I believe I just tied together the pins that had continuity... I can probably dig up some pics somewhere, but I **think** the below is how is played out. And one power supply didn't have pins 11 and 12 (no meters for that side of the board). 1 and 2 3 and 4 5 and 6 9 10 11 and 12 13 and 14
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Post by rowmat on Sept 7, 2017 19:03:09 GMT -6
With two power supplies you should be ok if you wanted to max out the channel count. My CPC connectors turned up but in hindsight I should have ordered those Neutrik Speakon 8 ways. I've just rung a local dealer and they have the Neutriks in stock so I'll pick up some tomorrow. Just wondering how did you wire up yours? With only 8 connections rather than 9 (to allow for separate grounds) it appears two of the grounds will need to be commoned together. Is this what you did? I believe I just tied together the pins that had continuity... I can probably dig up some pics somewhere, but I **think** the below is how is played out. And one power supply didn't have pins 11 and 12 (no meters for that side of the board). 1 and 2 3 and 4 5 and 6 9 10 11 and 12 13 and 14 No worries. There are six grounds all tied together inside the console so 8 pins per connector are plenty after all. I picked up the Neutrik Speakon NL8M & NLT8FX connectors yesterday. I got the metal STX versions. What a night and day difference from the utterly crappy plastic CPC connectors originally fitted! I dunno what they were thinking when those were specified but I'm sure countless numbers have developed bad contacts.
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