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Post by lcr on Mar 25, 2017 10:38:06 GMT -6
I mainly use Pro Tools and Studio One, used Cubase for years in the past. I mentioned it here before, I purchased Logic X a few years ago and gave it a minimal effort, became frustrated and never used it again. Well, I opened it up (.3?) the current version I believe and made something I really liked with all Logic stock stuff and It was fun and easy. Really great tools in Logic. If only the instruments and fx were available for other DAWs!! I havent a clue how to do 70% of what I would need to know. Everytime I hit a key I open another view/window.. Im sure its very powerful once you learn it. Im gonna put in an effort to try and figure it out.
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Post by terryrocks on Mar 25, 2017 10:56:37 GMT -6
I did a similar thing a couple years ago and haven't looked back. Logic is the best bang for the buck in my opinion.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 25, 2017 11:17:42 GMT -6
Yeah. I would think logic is the best bang for your buck and feature filled daw available. Seems the least logical to me though.
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Post by lcr on Mar 25, 2017 11:34:57 GMT -6
The compressor and EQ are great.
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 25, 2017 11:53:43 GMT -6
When I learned Logic 14 years ago it was super helpful to work with one of those logic books where they explain the new DAW step by step. Because my book was written by a german author I cant recommend anyone in english.
The manual was super helpful too, special if you want to understand some of the plug ins.
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Post by terryrocks on Mar 25, 2017 13:14:30 GMT -6
I've done the subscription thing with macprovideos. They have lots of logic specific content.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 25, 2017 13:32:56 GMT -6
this will float your boat:
he has a whole series of videos.
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Post by terryrocks on Mar 25, 2017 14:01:03 GMT -6
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Post by lcr on Mar 25, 2017 14:45:37 GMT -6
Thanks, I'll get to watching.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 25, 2017 14:51:36 GMT -6
Logic does everything I can think of, and some seriously complicated things I don't even want to begin to learn. I don't quite see where it's "illogical" though John. It seems fairly straightforward to me. The only tricky thing is that sometimes the thing you want to do is done with a very small icon that takes a minute to find. Once you know where it is, it's easy though. Just take one aspect at a time lcr. If you try to put it all together simultaneously, it'll be frustrating .
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Post by M57 on Mar 25, 2017 15:51:58 GMT -6
this will float your boat: he has a whole series of videos. These are great tutorials by the MusicTechHelpGuy. If you're stuck and you can't figure out how to do something, he's got a video that can show how to do it in less than 10 minutes. He doesn't mince words - There's no having to put up with the verbal diarrhea all about what you're going to learn for half the video, or how good that plug sounds - Just how to use the thing to accomplish your objective - and in most every video he gets pretty deeply into the related features of the topic.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 25, 2017 19:00:44 GMT -6
I really made an attempt to use Logic for a new tune I started today. Started recording a stereo acoustic part. Tried to overdub and I could hear the previous part while I was playing even when I hit record. Spent about 15 minutes tying to figure out what I had set wrong and then just gave up.
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Post by M57 on Mar 25, 2017 19:35:08 GMT -6
I really made an attempt to use Logic for a new tune I started today. Started recording a stereo acoustic part. Tried to overdub and I could hear the previous part while I was playing even when I hit record. Spent about 15 minutes tying to figure out what I had set wrong and then just gave up. Overdub as in record on the same track with the intention of comping from a take folder, or Overdub on a different channel?
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Post by M57 on Mar 25, 2017 19:51:59 GMT -6
Hmm. unless you recorded in two places. When you mute the track you recorded on (a single stereo track, no?) do you still hear it?
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 25, 2017 20:09:07 GMT -6
There is definitely a learning curve, perhaps we could walk you through your set up so next time that won't happen ? I struggled with logic for about 3 months, then things started to click
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 25, 2017 20:40:25 GMT -6
Just regular hit the record button to record over a trouble spot. Still hear the old take and it records the new track to a different lane. Just wanted to record over the bad part and then drag the old take up to the fix. It's stuff like this that has led me to say logic is the least logical.
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Post by c0rtland on Mar 25, 2017 21:24:43 GMT -6
Used 10.3 all day. Initially didn't update my thunderbridge software and that brought my computer to its KNEES when opening logic. Installed the update and I have never been so impressed with the performance of logic before. Everything from Startup to closing was easily 3 times faster than my pervious software configuration. Great new look too. It's not perfect, but nothing is, and for me it is lightning fast and that makes all the difference in the world.
Two updates ago I was able two select any group of Tracks that had all different fader levels. I could then option click on one fader of the highlighted group and that fader would go to unity while the others would change as well but all highlighted channels would maintain their relative balance. NOW, when I do this every highlighted channel goes to unity removing any balance I had setup between them.
Is this a settings thing?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 25, 2017 21:33:45 GMT -6
Let me see if I can follow your path John. I'm an average user though, not an expert.
* you record a track * you want to record a new part where you didn't like the original part * You have two basic choices, if you just hit record, Logic will record a new take on the same track, enabling you to comp from any of the takes easily later on. * the second choice is to record on an entirely new track. In that case, of course you'd hear the original track.
Now, if you've recorded a take, and hit record, you should no longer hear the original take, just what you're playing now. The proper thing to do would be to set up the new take using autopunch. You click on the auto punch icon on top, it creates a red line that marks where you punch in, you grab the end of the red line, move it to where you want, you start a little before the red, and it punches in for you.
If you haven't changed anything and just hit record, you should only hear what you're playing, no other takes. The only time I've ever heard another take was when I have other tracks of the same instrument muted, but leave the reverb sends on.
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Post by johneppstein on Mar 26, 2017 1:13:12 GMT -6
I did a similar thing a couple years ago and haven't looked back. Logic is the best bang for the buck in my opinion. Aside from having to buy the Apple box to run it on... and deal with the constant upgrades. It's pretty hard to beat Reaper in the bang for the buck department.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 26, 2017 3:23:03 GMT -6
Johnkenn I would have just highlighted in the time line (yellow bar at top), the section you want to replace, say bars 4-5 of 8 bars, if you click on the record drop down , you can then select the lead in 1,2 bar etc, and as said above just arm the track and when your hit record on the transport, Logic will start at the position you selected (1,2 bars ahead) and start recording at the beginning of the timeline. On the channel you 're recording on, if you also clicked on the little i, you would see and hear the input signal, if you have input monitoring on, but with your apollo not needed. With my symphony, I mute the input channel as I am monitoring in the new controller app gui for lowest latency, as we discussed in the other thread. I tend to keep the main edit window open with the mixer imbedded ( do this by just clicking on the little mixer image in tool bar top left) and just drag the mixer down so I can both see the mixer and the channel lane that is being recorded, just to visually confirm the recording. Attachments:
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 26, 2017 3:43:51 GMT -6
ps in my example Logic will loop back to re record but won't keep takes, using the autopunch, as described by Martin, it will also loop but create a take folder and sequentially save your takes (stacked vertically/numbered, but all aligned), so you can then easily use Logic's comp function or simply select your preferred complete take. Auto punch automatically introduces a red timeline that defaults to I think 2 bars, that you position at your punch point and drag the bar ends to size. You turn on Autopunch in the defaults by right clicking on top tool bar and then selecting it and then the image Martin describes, is opened in your tool bar as a shortcut. With autopunch, makes certain you highlight the track you want to punch on (click on it), otherwise Logic will not start recording (not knowing which track you want to autopunch on).
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Post by M57 on Mar 26, 2017 4:12:34 GMT -6
I don't even use auto-punch - Logic records a new lane on the same track for me automagically. Maybe something in prefs is wrong?
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 26, 2017 4:16:48 GMT -6
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Post by M57 on Mar 26, 2017 6:18:23 GMT -6
^Yes, but I'm talking about creating a new lane on the same track.. Auto-punch has nothing to do with that. ..and that is what John seemed to be having a problem with - though he never said if he was able to create another lane. I doubt he could if he was hearing the first take. Something very basic is amiss here.
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 26, 2017 6:47:38 GMT -6
could you show a screen shot: what does create a new lane mean, if it doesn't mean record over what you have already recorded, either with a new single pass or with looped recording, with or without autopunch ?
If JK was recording on another track he must have armed it or it was armed ?
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