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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 10, 2017 15:02:26 GMT -6
for 900. I just couldn't pass that up. I'd used red badges before and was quite impressed by how real sounds are picked up by them.
Any good 170 stories here? You know, where you put one up on so and so and won 3 grammy's and a yatch with a helipad for the song etc...
That's kind of why I bought it.
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Post by rob61 on Feb 10, 2017 15:27:15 GMT -6
I use a pair for choirs and love them on acoustic gtr. I find them rather neutral without any top end hype. I had an industrial metal band in with a screamer for lead vocal, and we ended up liking one on his vocals the best. They got signed to an LA rock label... no grammy but they did get a record contract out of it and came back and did a couple albums then on label money.
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Post by Ward on Feb 10, 2017 17:10:15 GMT -6
I find them very neutral and natural sounding also. Some might call that boring, but 'un-hyped' might be a more apropos description.
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 10, 2017 17:30:53 GMT -6
I use a pair for choirs and love them on acoustic gtr. I find them rather neutral without any top end hype. I had an industrial metal band in with a screamer for lead vocal, and we ended up liking one on his vocals the best. They got signed to an LA rock label... no grammy but they did get a record contract out of it and came back and did a couple albums then on label money. You were close to my aforementioned rewards. Kudos to you. That's cool! I am kind of hoping to use it on lots of acoustic instruments. Guitar, mandolin, piano, melodica, resonator, horns etc. I am worried that once I hear this one this coming week, I'll need to hunt down another. They are indeed super neutral and natural. At least the red badges I heard on a Steinway D at a grammy winning classical studio down the street. They sound like you are just listening to the source and no microphone in the way. Granted, that's not what I want all the time, but it sure is nice sometimes. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 10, 2017 17:31:54 GMT -6
I find them very neutral and natural sounding also. Some might call that boring, but 'un-hyped' might be a more apropos description. That's the key. I think it will be situational for me. Most gear I have can be either depending on the situation. I'll see how this works in my space. Fine mic, though. I've heard some great sounds on upright bass(jazz pizz) with one. |
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Post by jimwilliams on Feb 12, 2017 12:11:42 GMT -6
We used one of those on Vanessa Williams' first big release, "The Right Stuff" over at Jam Power Studios, Northridge, CA. One of my mic preamps was also used with it. Check it out!
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 12, 2017 15:14:34 GMT -6
We used one of those on Vanessa Williams' first big release, "The Right Stuff" over at Jam Power Studios, Northridge, CA. One of my mic preamps was also used with it. Check it out! Nice! I will! Think it's worth having two of these around for overheads and stereo acoustic guitar? I think you mentioned once that the purple nurples are easier to repair as well. |
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Post by reddirt on Feb 12, 2017 17:19:16 GMT -6
Have never used a red badge but used a purple for some time as the main mic in a studio i was managing when they first hit the market around 1990.
Didn't try it on O/Hs as we only had one but my recollection is that they are just a great all round non- hyped mic that will find plenty of use.
If it's in good nick then you got a steal at 900 USD.
If you don't like it, let me know!
Cheers
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 12, 2017 22:16:37 GMT -6
Have never used a red badge but used a purple for some time as the main mic in a studio i was managing when they first hit the market around 1990. Didn't try it on O/Hs as we only had one but my recollection is that they are just a great all round non- hyped mic that will find plenty of use. If it's in good nick then you got a steal at 900 USD. If you don't like it, let me know! Cheers Sounds like it might be an even better ksm32. I'll see what it sounds like Tuesday. And I'll let you know  looks to be in good condition. Couple small basket dents. Unsure of the capsule but I'll take the gamble. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 14, 2017 22:47:29 GMT -6
Wow. Clean as a whistle and quick transient response. Does have some brightness to it but not much. It definitely has that something special that only a Neumann or higher end mics have. Something that just makes things sound "nice". Barely had time with it yet but I'll know more by the end of the week. Gonna try it as a mono overhead.
Looking to try this out with the Hardy that will come either this or next week I hope.
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Post by sean on Feb 15, 2017 7:11:37 GMT -6
I had one for a few years and unfortunately had to sell it because I was in a pinch. I think they are very flexible microphones, similar to a U89. I occasionally used them on vocals, really liked them on banjo.
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Post by Ward on Feb 15, 2017 11:09:44 GMT -6
I had one for a few years and unfortunately had to sell it because I was in a pinch. I think they are very flexible microphones, similar to a U89. I occasionally used them on vocals, really liked them on banjo. Like a U89, the TLM170 also shines on female vocals, soprano in particular, as is great on overheads for a non-hyped sound, trumpet and trombone too. Not just banjo! A U89 is great on any tom tom. Particularly the floor tom. The TLM170 does not have the transformer weight of a U89 but can still be good on a tom tom. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 15, 2017 18:15:29 GMT -6
I had one for a few years and unfortunately had to sell it because I was in a pinch. I think they are very flexible microphones, similar to a U89. I occasionally used them on vocals, really liked them on banjo. Sorry to hear that. The u89 looks good, too. Might see if I can get some used of those one day if I end up using this 170 a lot. Nothing wrong with more Neumann. I should get a banjo... or banjer, as they say around here. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 15, 2017 18:16:05 GMT -6
I had one for a few years and unfortunately had to sell it because I was in a pinch. I think they are very flexible microphones, similar to a U89. I occasionally used them on vocals, really liked them on banjo. Like a U89, the TLM170 also shines on female vocals, soprano in particular, as is great on overheads for a non-hyped sound, trumpet and trombone too. Not just banjo! A U89 is great on any tom tom. Particularly the floor tom. The TLM170 does not have the transformer weight of a U89 but can still be good on a tom tom. Interesting. I wonder if I could a/b a u89 at some point with the 170... curious of the differences. |
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Post by channelcat on Feb 17, 2017 14:17:14 GMT -6
That's a steal! I had a red badge for years (and used them at MTSU before that). Loved it on female vox and upright bass. Enjoy!!!
Stu
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 17, 2017 16:44:29 GMT -6
I've never had the pleasure of using a TLM 170, but I've seen them used on classical voices numerous times. Is there a big difference between the red and purple badge editions?
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Post by Vincent R. on Feb 17, 2017 16:51:15 GMT -6
Also, the TLM 193 shares the same capsule. Is it more or less a cardioid only version of he TLM 170 or something different?
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 17, 2017 17:15:22 GMT -6
I had one for a few years and unfortunately had to sell it because I was in a pinch. I think they are very flexible microphones, similar to a U89. I occasionally used them on vocals, really liked them on banjo. "If you have a dedicated banjo mic, you have too much money" - Fidel Castro |
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Post by drsax on Feb 17, 2017 19:50:01 GMT -6
TLM170 is great mic. I've got a pair here and they sound great on most anything. Not a vibe piece as they are natural sounding - but they sure sound fantastic on a lot of sources.
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 17, 2017 21:01:26 GMT -6
That's a steal! I had a red badge for years (and used them at MTSU before that). Loved it on female vox and upright bass. Enjoy!!! Stu I've heard killer upright bass stuff done with it. Jazz combo. Steinway D with red badges was also nice. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 17, 2017 21:06:00 GMT -6
I've never had the pleasure of using a TLM 170, but I've seen them used on classical voices numerous times. Is there a big difference between the red and purple badge editions? Not a big difference some people say. Though I think I read the new red badges use more surface mount components unlike the through hole of he earlier versions(I think). I've heard the word smoother to describe the earlier version. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 17, 2017 21:09:35 GMT -6
Also, the TLM 193 shares the same capsule. Is it more or less a cardioid only version of he TLM 170 or something different? I'm not sure.I've heard some people they sound the same and some say different. Something about the filter being set slightly different. Since the capsule is a single diaphragm, it may end up sounding different. |
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Post by channelcat on Feb 17, 2017 21:10:27 GMT -6
That's a steal! I had a red badge for years (and used them at MTSU before that). Loved it on female vox and upright bass. Enjoy!!! Stu I've heard killer upright bass stuff done with it. Jazz combo. Steinway D with red badges was also nice. That was one of the other places I really liked it...at the end of the grand with a pair of 414BULSs over the hammers. We also used it as a 3rd/center overhead on drums. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 17, 2017 21:16:08 GMT -6
TLM170 is great mic. I've got a pair here and they sound great on most anything. Not a vibe piece as they are natural sounding - but they sure sound fantastic on a lot of sources. That's the way I hear this one. Great in certain acoustic guitar situations but not in others. Sometimes I want that sdc vibe or tube complexity. Usually on strummed parts. I tried it on trumpet and melodica and it sounded wonderful. Clean guitar amp was also very good. Decent on my voice. I'd like to try it on overheads. |
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Post by Mister Chase on Feb 17, 2017 21:19:56 GMT -6
I've heard killer upright bass stuff done with it. Jazz combo. Steinway D with red badges was also nice. That was one of the other places I really liked it...at the end of the grand with a pair of 414BULSs over the hammers. We also used it as a 3rd/center overhead on drums. Sounds killer. Did it pick up low end well? Highs nice and not painful? |
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looks to be in good condition. Couple small basket dents. Unsure of the capsule but I'll take the gamble.
