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Post by bartacusad on Jan 12, 2017 18:21:41 GMT -6
So I had some random parts laying around and since I've built all of Jeff's other mic pre's I figured it'd be good to have a pair of VP312D's. I only have one DI box so I figured it'd be good for that too. I knew they'd sound good because all of Jeff's stuff sounds good but I had no idea that they would become my favorite mic pre's for acoustic guitar!! A buddy of mine, Dylan Rosson, had just played the same acoustic on an EP that I just finished so I knew very well what his guitar sounded like going through the VP28's. I decided since I hadn't heard the VP312's that I'd give them a try. Holy crap!! I couldn't believe how detailed and balanced the guitar was. It just sounded exactly like his guitar does in the room! Imagine that! Anyway, I thought I'd share it with you guys. The setup was a modded MXL 2001 and an AT4033 into the VP312's through the Burl B2 into Pro Tools. No eq, just reverb. I know it's not one of those recordings that's got immediate wow factor but considering this is my starting point with this guitar it's really exciting.
https%3A//soundcloud.com/user-841879432/acoustic-snippet-with-vp312d
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Post by terryrocks on Jan 12, 2017 22:50:11 GMT -6
That sounds great!
I want a pair
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Post by terryrocks on Jan 12, 2017 23:15:26 GMT -6
What was the stereo technique?
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 13, 2017 6:48:18 GMT -6
What was the stereo technique? Yes, one on the 12th fret and one at the bridge |
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 13, 2017 6:51:43 GMT -6
What was the stereo technique? Sorry, I didn't read that correctly. Not really even sure what you would call this technique. I guess spaced pair (except I used different mics). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2017 15:40:16 GMT -6
Yes, a simple 312 design can sound very good. 2 transformers and an opamp inbetween, a path pure enough on the one hand and enough color due to the transformers alone. Jeff's other designs add a second stage mostly, but with a 312 design you are already 2/3 there. Gone into slight satureation, this for sure can sound wonderful. You could even use a chip instead of a DOA and it will still sound cool due to the transformers alone...
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 15, 2017 20:05:59 GMT -6
This clip inspired me to buy one myself. Now my acoustic go-to too! Thanks, Bart! Now I need another one.
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 15, 2017 22:17:41 GMT -6
This clip inspired me to buy one myself. Now my acoustic go-to too! Thanks, Bart! Now I need another one. Yes! Stereo is more gooder! |
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Post by terryrocks on Jan 15, 2017 23:06:09 GMT -6
Ive got one of the sytek mxpaii 4-pre that I keep around for tracking acoustic.
I'm now thinking I'll sell it and buy a pair of the 312
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Post by rowmat on Jan 16, 2017 4:05:01 GMT -6
I recently finished a pair of CAPI VP312's.
I like their punchiness.
Next on the list is another pair of VP312's but fitted with either Jensen or Cinemag nickel transformers and a 990 op amp.
I'm figuring these will end up on overheads.
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Post by svart on Jan 16, 2017 8:31:13 GMT -6
I'm not sure a 312 is considered underrated.. I mean it's one of the most sought-after preamps around..
I have 8 of them, and I wish I had room for more!
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 16, 2017 16:04:07 GMT -6
I'm not sure a 312 is considered underrated.. I mean it's one of the most sought-after preamps around.. I have 8 of them, and I wish I had room for more! It is underrated in the sense that the VP28 & VP26 get most of the attention in the CAPI world. Most of the engineers in Nashville that I work with and know use the VP28's, not the VP312. Just trying to send a little love to a pre that I've never heard anyone talk about. |
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Post by chromies on Jan 24, 2017 18:55:54 GMT -6
Yes. After vp28ing for a while, my vp312s were a real eye opener. Much fuller bass and larger space/3d feel going on.
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Post by EmRR on Jan 24, 2017 19:46:44 GMT -6
It's like Rick Rubin bypassing the Neve busses!
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Post by Bender on Jan 25, 2017 14:08:05 GMT -6
Whats the preferable DI setup/selection? I'm gonna order my first DI version & oh there's so many choices; Active Fet1 , Active Ic1 would only use the DI for my passive basses from time to time if that helps. Supposed to go opposite of what you use correct? So active bass then passive DI etc correct? Thoughts?
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 26, 2017 11:05:56 GMT -6
Whats the preferable DI setup/selection? I'm gonna order my first DI version & oh there's so many choices; Active Fet1 , Active Ic1 would only use the DI for my passive basses from time to time if that helps. Supposed to go opposite of what you use correct? So active bass then passive DI etc correct? Thoughts? Jeff suggested I use the Pekitron (spelling) and it seems cool. Not having tried any of thers I can't really speak to the differences. |
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 26, 2017 11:13:54 GMT -6
Yes. After vp28ing for a while, my vp312s were a real eye opener. Much fuller bass and larger space/3d feel going on. Yes, eye opening is a good way to put it. I still love my VP28's and mix through them everyday but the VP312 totally surprised me. I'm not a huge fan of the API 3124 so I really didn't know what to expect when I built these. I used them last night on a session and the guitar player was blown away by how huge his acoustic sounded! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 27, 2017 17:02:25 GMT -6
Thought I would move this into Gen Pop
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Post by core64 on Jan 27, 2017 17:27:03 GMT -6
Sounds great. Which opamp and transformer did you use?
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 27, 2017 17:52:42 GMT -6
Sounds great. Which opamp and transformer did you use? Thanks! The transformer is the EA2503 and the OpAmps are SL2520's. |
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 27, 2017 17:54:08 GMT -6
Thought I would move this into Gen Pop I feel the love 👍🏻 |
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Post by core64 on Jan 27, 2017 18:21:34 GMT -6
Sounds great. Which opamp and transformer did you use? Thanks! The transformer is the EA2503 and the OpAmps are SL2520's. Cool. Thanks man! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 18:25:01 GMT -6
They defo would get more love if you could easily buy them as pre-made units, I had a VP26? I got off E-bay, someone was making them and selling them in Europe which was awesome. It sounded awesome, everything is awesomeee! Everything is cool when you're part of a team *cough* (sorry tangent).
Then the guy stopped selling them and now if I want one, I'm left to use my ham hock hands to splutter together a kit which ends up looking like a puppy attacked a lego technics set.
I do love all CAPI stuff and would jump on some VP312's if I could.
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Post by bartacusad on Jan 27, 2017 18:42:42 GMT -6
They defo would get more love if you could easily buy them as pre-made units, I had a VP26? I got off E-bay, someone was making them and selling them in Europe which was awesome. It sounded awesome, everything is awesomeee! Everything is cool when you're part of a team *cough* (sorry tangent). Then the guy stopped selling them and now if I want one, I'm left to use my ham hock hands to splutter together a kit which ends up looking like a puppy attacked a lego technics set. I do love all CAPI stuff and would jump on some VP312's if I could. Just so you know, Jeff has got a few guys that build his pre's for a very reasonable price. Hit him up and I'm sure he'd be glad to hook you up or at the least I'm sure you could find somebody on here to build it for you. |
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Post by terryrocks on Jan 27, 2017 19:24:03 GMT -6
I would be willing to build 312s for fairly cheap. Just pm me if ever interested
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