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Post by wiz on Feb 22, 2016 21:13:48 GMT -6
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wiz's Original Tracks and contributed track links.
I Wont Cry No More Tracks (Bass Drums Two Guitars and Vocal)
M57 Piano Tracks---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- We did this last year with just a mix and it was fun. So what about something different this year? In the zip file linked above you will find 10 tracks to the song called "I Wont Cry No More" Its at 112 Bpm, its in the Key of A, tracked at 48Khz 24 bit. You can do what you want with it. You can just mix it. You can replace any of the parts you want. You can add anything you want. You can re write the lyrics, absolutley anything. Except you can't use the song or any of the parts to make money. No rules... except the not for profit thing. enjoy Happy to answer any questions... lets have some fun! cheers Wiz |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2016 12:55:39 GMT -6
Woohoo. Round 2. Again - not much to fix in the mix. Again - it's fun. Mixbus and the Klanghelm tubes running warm here... C'mon guys - let's have a fader party to a Wiz tune again....  |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 23, 2016 23:18:15 GMT -6
this is tracked really well wiz! Nice job, good tones, good tune bud 8)
Upon import, the guitars are reading -30 to -35 dbfs on my meters in PT, is that right? what are the Logic meters reading?
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Post by wiz on Feb 23, 2016 23:50:01 GMT -6
this is tracked really well wiz! Nice job, good tones, good tune bud 8) Upon import, the guitars are reading -30 to -35 dbfs on my meters in PT, is that right? what are the Logic meters reading? No guitars are peaking at around -12 Tele and -21 STRAT .. -24 Bass (all dBFs) cheers Wiz |
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 24, 2016 18:12:33 GMT -6
wiz - I just downloaded these and played the tune through a couple times. You have a section marked solo but no solo instrument file. Is this deliberate so we can track our own lead? Cool tune and nice tracks. Nice little pick me up. I love these threads!
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 24, 2016 18:23:51 GMT -6
this is tracked really well wiz! Nice job, good tones, good tune bud 8) Upon import, the guitars are reading -30 to -35 dbfs on my meters in PT, is that right? what are the Logic meters reading? Tony you must not have heard - PT now has a subscription only plugin which allows you to import tracks from other DAWS at unity gain. If you don't have the plug, you get unbelievably quiet tracks. Good news is the plug is only $9.99/mo. Bad news is you must use their brand new proprietary hardware to instantiate the plug in your session. $599/year  |
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Post by wiz on Feb 24, 2016 18:43:33 GMT -6
wiz - I just downloaded these and played the tune through a couple times. You have a section marked solo but no solo instrument file. Is this deliberate so we can track our own lead? Cool tune and nice tracks. Nice little pick me up. I love these threads! Hey Justin Yes, do what you want... anything... I thought it might be fun for people... cheers Wiz |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 24, 2016 18:46:42 GMT -6
Got a key and some chord changes?
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Post by wiz on Feb 24, 2016 19:43:36 GMT -6
Got a key and some chord changes? Key is A changes are Verse A D A D F#m D E Bridge Bm D F#m Bm D E cheers Wiz |
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Post by porkyman on Feb 26, 2016 19:18:02 GMT -6
im totally in on this. studio is out of commission right now while im modding my console. excited to run these tracks through my new set up... hopefully next week.
thanks for doing this wiz.
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Post by M57 on Feb 27, 2016 6:11:02 GMT -6
Wiz - What's up with the snare track? I don't hear a hint of the cymbals, just some hat bleed here and there. Did you do that with just a gate? ..or is something else going on?
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Post by henge on Feb 27, 2016 6:38:14 GMT -6
Downloading now. This will be a ton o fun!!
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Post by wiz on Feb 27, 2016 6:51:45 GMT -6
Wiz - What's up with the snare track? I don't hear a hint of the cymbals, just some hat bleed here and there. Did you do that with just a gate? ..or is something else going on? Gate 8) Cheers Wiz |
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Post by M57 on Feb 27, 2016 19:25:24 GMT -6
I threw down a piano take today for anyone that wants to use it. One stereo pair and a room mic. Use at your peril - After tracking I noticed that the left channel of the stereo track was breaking up in just a few places (Pre-amp issues I believe). Cut/paste and mangle as you please on Wiz's song - Same rules of engagement as Wiz's. www.dropbox.com/sh/n0ye9km4bdqwo1h/AABd8chvXv3Osvd2D8t3oixma?dl=0 |
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Post by wiz on Feb 27, 2016 19:46:27 GMT -6
I threw down a piano take today for anyone that wants to use it. One stereo pair and a room mic. Use at your peril - After tracking I noticed that the left channel of the stereo track was breaking up in just a few places (Pre-amp issues I believe). Cut/paste and mangle as you please on Wiz's song - Same rules of engagement as Wiz's. www.dropbox.com/sh/n0ye9km4bdqwo1h/AABd8chvXv3Osvd2D8t3oixma?dl=0This is great . I am at a gig arm but will definitely grab it later today or tomorrow. Thanks for getting in the spirit Cheers Wiz |
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Post by M57 on Feb 27, 2016 21:37:24 GMT -6
Thought I'd post my first crack at it.. Used the entire piano track and a little on the hot side so folks could hear my contribution. Of course, now that I'm actually listening to it, I realize I overdid that tremolo lick - Let's just call it a "theme."  soundcloud.com/m57/i-wont-cry-no-more-first-mix/s-RnHV8Was hoping you all could give me some mixing pointers. |
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 27, 2016 21:52:12 GMT -6
Thought I'd post my first crack at it.. Used the entire piano track so folks could hear my contribution. Of course, now that I'm actually listening to it, I realize I overdid that tremolo lick - Let's just call it a "theme." soundcloud.com/m57/i-wont-cry-no-more-first-mix/s-RnHV8Still work to do. No automation or flexing ..yet. Was hoping you all could give me some pointers. Nice Mark! I'm going to try to use some of that piano in my track. Really cool of you to put that up for everyone. Thanks! |
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Post by M57 on Feb 28, 2016 7:45:43 GMT -6
I just asked Wiz if he could put my files in his dropbox folder for one-stop shopping.
I'm getting a Stones vibe. There's lots of space for a lead guitar or sax. Any takers? I know Wiz is encouraging folks to work on it on their own, but I'm much more into the collaborative thing. Anyway, with that in mind I was thinking about BV's. Wouldn't it be cool if a bunch of us sang 'em? It would probably be challenging to mix because of different mics, placement and rooms, but..
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 28, 2016 8:09:23 GMT -6
I just asked Wiz if he could put my files in his dropbox folder for one-stop shopping. I'm getting a Stones vibe. There's lots of space for a lead guitar or sax. Any takers? I know Wiz is encouraging folks to work on it on their own, but I'm much more into the collaborative thing. Anyway, with that in mind I was thinking about BV's. Wouldn't it be cool if a bunch of us sang 'em? It would probably be challenging to mix because of different mics, placement and rooms, but.. Wow, weird! The Stones, lead guitar and sax are exactly what I'm hearing! I started tracking some lead guitar last night. I was going to PM you about your thoughts on sax. I was going to reach out to NoFilterChuck this morning. Chuck you interested? Sorry to put you on the spot bud... |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 28, 2016 8:16:54 GMT -6
I just asked Wiz if he could put my files in his dropbox folder for one-stop shopping. I'm getting a Stones vibe. There's lots of space for a lead guitar or sax. Any takers? I know Wiz is encouraging folks to work on it on their own, but I'm much more into the collaborative thing. Anyway, with that in mind I was thinking about BV's. Wouldn't it be cool if a bunch of us sang 'em? It would probably be challenging to mix because of different mics, placement and rooms, but.. Wow, weird! The Stones, lead guitar and sax are exactly what I'm hearing! I started tracking some lead guitar last night. I was going to PM you about your thoughts on sax. I was going to reach out to @nofilterchuck this morning. Chuck you interested? Sorry to put you on the spot bud... Trying to tag Chuck having issues try this: @nofilterchuck Weird I have capital letters in all the right places but when I post Chuck's board name it goes to lower cases?? He's bannedchuck. NoFilterChuck |
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 28, 2016 8:37:21 GMT -6
Thanks Jesse...
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Post by wiz on Feb 28, 2016 16:40:45 GMT -6
I just asked Wiz if he could put my files in his dropbox folder for one-stop shopping. I'm getting a Stones vibe. There's lots of space for a lead guitar or sax. Any takers? I know Wiz is encouraging folks to work on it on their own, but I'm much more into the collaborative thing. Anyway, with that in mind I was thinking about BV's. Wouldn't it be cool if a bunch of us sang 'em? It would probably be challenging to mix because of different mics, placement and rooms, but.. Leave your link there for the moment.. . My internet is too slow to be uploading everyones tracks to my dropbox.. but... I am supposed to be getting faster net this week, when that happens no problems... what I will do is copy your link into the first post, and anyone else as well.. so its easy to find.. that cool? cheers Wiz |
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Post by wiz on Feb 28, 2016 17:40:20 GMT -6
I threw down a piano take today for anyone that wants to use it. One stereo pair and a room mic. Use at your peril - After tracking I noticed that the left channel of the stereo track was breaking up in just a few places (Pre-amp issues I believe). Cut/paste and mangle as you please on Wiz's song - Same rules of engagement as Wiz's. www.dropbox.com/sh/n0ye9km4bdqwo1h/AABd8chvXv3Osvd2D8t3oixma?dl=0Hey sounds cool... Nothing beats real instruments eh... 8) The stereo imbalance is a real easy fix in logic, with the direction mixer so it was no problem what so ever... love the rolls in the bridge... I would have loved some tinkling solo stuff during the end around the voice... like call and answer stuff... thanks for doing this... I really liked the sound of the piano.. cheers Wiz |
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Post by M57 on Feb 28, 2016 18:04:50 GMT -6
Hey sounds cool... Nothing beats real instruments eh... 8) The stereo imbalance is a real easy fix in logic, with the direction mixer so it was no problem what so ever... love the rolls in the bridge... I would have loved some tinkling solo stuff during the end around the voice... like call and answer stuff... thanks for doing this... I really liked the sound of the piano.. cheers Wiz Funny you should mention the direction mixer, I just discovered that plug today while trying to address that very problem - I've been trying to decide whether or not to narrow the stage and where to move the piano. Logic is one scary sick program for the money, huh? 8) Yeah, I considered riffing at the end but I was thinking the end tinkering call/answering should be lead guitar and/or sax à la stones. On the other hand, if someone does that and leaves just a few spaces - I'd be happy to go back and put in some answers. The tune really cries out for another lead instrument imo. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 28, 2016 20:17:35 GMT -6
I did this last night pretty quick, i put a bunch of fun ideas on it, then today I dropboxed it down under, and it was soundly rejected by that tyrant wiz! haha, so i just took off my "production ideas"  and tried to balance out what wiz gave me with very little liberties taken, he was right, this one's better... (bastard! 8) The tracks were recorded very nicely, he knows what is, i didn't have to do any eq at all, but chose to do a little on the snare, the rest is filtering and compression, delay's, verb. edit; if anyone cares to know, t's a DR15 on TT dynamic range meter. https%3A//soundcloud.com/tonycamp/i-wont-cry-nomo |
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and tried to balance out what wiz gave me with very little liberties taken, he was right, this one's better... (bastard! 8)