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Post by LesC on Oct 2, 2015 18:52:37 GMT -6
I just got a Slate email about this, to be shipping within 2 weeks. Also all major DAW's are supported on OSX, PC versions have an ETA of mid-December, and yes, I wrote that with a straight face. Here's a link: www.slatemt.com/ |
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Post by donr on Oct 2, 2015 20:23:33 GMT -6
Yeah, they support Digital Performer! I watched the video. At the price point, I'm tempted. I'd need to be right on top of the screen, I don't want to be reaching for it all the time. Would have to build a custom desk. I wonder how it would integrate with another conventional computer monitor.
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Post by ericn on Oct 2, 2015 20:29:09 GMT -6
Yeah, they support Digital Performer! I watched the video. At the price point, I'm tempted. I'd need to be right on top of the screen, I don't want to be reaching for it all the time. Would have to build a custom desk. I wonder how it would integrate with another conventional computer monitor. I think you just nailed everybody's questions! I really want to play with one because I wonder what the tactical feel would be like graving a knob or fader without the knob or fader! |
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Post by EmRR on Oct 2, 2015 21:21:58 GMT -6
Like to know more. I drive a Yamaha QL series mixer with touch screen regularly, so am getting sucked in.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 4, 2015 16:46:44 GMT -6
Kuddos to slate for finally pricing this thing more reasonably but I tried the more expensive Raven at a local store. There was a retina mac display above it. I was surprised at how unclear the slate seemed in comparison ? Maybe its resolution wasn't set right ?
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Oct 4, 2015 20:42:27 GMT -6
Its gonna be hard to beat a retina display. Have you seen the resolution specs on them? The slate display is probably just a cheap LCD running at 720p
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Post by acegunn on Oct 4, 2015 21:39:49 GMT -6
The slate display is probably just a cheap LCD running at 720p No need to guess, this is what the web site says: 27", LED backlit IPS, 6-touch multi-touch display HD resolution-1920 x 1080 |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Oct 4, 2015 22:18:44 GMT -6
It probably feels something like a giant iPad. I'm not sure I'd really want to touch a screen to do everything, but I'll think about it.
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Post by M57 on Oct 5, 2015 5:14:06 GMT -6
I'm use to having two screens; I use one for the playing field/mixer and the other for plugs/meters/tools, which I find handy to keep open. I don't like the idea of having all my plugs open on the field. The other potential problem is Neyfi, which I found was buggy and prone to drop-outs when I used it in an iPad/Pro Tools controller setup.
On the other hand, I don't think I'd have a problem with the giant iPad 'feel,' In fact, I'm so use to mouseing that that the idea of multi-touch capabilities on a life-size board image is appealing. Right now I have better ways to spend $1000, but this is definitely worth keeping an eye on.
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Post by rickcarson on Oct 5, 2015 7:07:44 GMT -6
As someone who paid $2200 for one when it came out. I am very sad to see them being sold for $550 on the other sites classifieds less that 24 months later. bad investment.
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Post by EmRR on Oct 5, 2015 9:02:04 GMT -6
As someone who paid $2200 for one when it came out. I am very sad to see them being sold for $550 on the other sites classifieds less that 24 months later. bad investment. It'd be hard not to feel that way. It stands out that you aren't saying anything about your like or dislike of the unit. Any new thoughts there? What has it/not done for your work flow? |
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Post by M57 on Oct 5, 2015 9:10:48 GMT -6
As someone who paid $2200 for one when it came out. I am very sad to see them being sold for $550 on the other sites classifieds less that 24 months later. bad investment. Products featuring newer technologies commonly see significant improvements and upgrades in the first few years after being first introduced to the marketplace. You wanted to have it before everyone else, so you paid a premium. It's only a bad investment if it hasn't lived up to your expectations since you bought it. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 5, 2015 9:25:13 GMT -6
As someone who paid $2200 for one when it came out. I am very sad to see them being sold for $550 on the other sites classifieds less that 24 months later. bad investment. Computers and peripherals are always a bad investment if you're looking for financial return. Technology improves and becomes cheaper while the older tech becomes obsolete. |
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Post by rickcarson on Oct 5, 2015 9:26:20 GMT -6
Not like that my dude. Tell me another product you only expected to retain 25 percent of its original cost within two years. Avid has better longer lasting pricing than that and they are literately the worst in the world. I guess if I was buying peavy but this isnt like that. It has done a thing for my workflow if were being honest. Its cumbersome and I hate that it never pulls up sessions right. But that's neither here nor there. I dont particularly love my bricasti either but its more useful to me and since it holds its value extremely well. Hold on that was new technology too?
This thing held its value like a pack of guitar strings and thats a bummer.
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Post by rickcarson on Oct 5, 2015 9:29:52 GMT -6
As someone who paid $2200 for one when it came out. I am very sad to see them being sold for $550 on the other sites classifieds less that 24 months later. bad investment. Computers and peripherals are always a bad investment if you're looking for financial return. Technology improves and becomes cheaper while the older tech becomes obsolete. I know they are, but to what extent is the truth. I mean the Avid HDIO is 4 years old and stills roughly 40-50 percent of its initial value.... |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 5, 2015 9:35:14 GMT -6
Computers and peripherals are always a bad investment if you're looking for financial return. Technology improves and becomes cheaper while the older tech becomes obsolete. I know they are, but to what extent is the truth. I mean the Avid HDIO is 4 years old and stills roughly 40-50 percent of its initial value.... I guess it was a VERY quick decline, but I always look at technology as operating cost with 0 return when purchasing. The AVID HDIO is still supported. Look how cheap 192's are now. A few years ago it was a significant chunk of change to get into an HD rig running those, now you can get them for pennies on the dollar. reverb.com/item/972864-digidesign-192-digital-interface-pre-owned |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Oct 5, 2015 10:18:14 GMT -6
that's the Digital IO, contains no analog I/O
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Post by rickcarson on Oct 5, 2015 10:21:22 GMT -6
that's the Digital IO, contains no analog I/O yeah, It is one of the worst Investments I have ever made into equipment including Avid products. That is very sad and will make me very skeptical on how I spend my money in the future. If Slate wanted to they could have kept the value of this product high for a few more years but they chose a quick buck over dedicated customers and I only let a company do that to me once. "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me." |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 5, 2015 10:34:59 GMT -6
that's the Digital IO, contains no analog I/O What's your point? |
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Oct 5, 2015 10:55:07 GMT -6
the 192 Analog I/Os are still $600+ used
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 5, 2015 11:13:39 GMT -6
I picked up a 192 for second, i paid $300 for it with a 8 analog ins/outs, those rigs are well designed, and have very well good analog paths, if you get the BLA FM mod done to them, they are virtually untouchable as converters go to this day. Even though avid claims "no longer supported", they are supported as avid wouldn't dare allow them to not be, their main user base would beyond flip, even if they ever become "unsupported" for real, they will be slaveable for a long time at least, and the bottom line is if it sounds great, your golden... right?
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Post by rickcarson on Oct 5, 2015 11:18:18 GMT -6
that's the Digital IO, contains no analog I/O What's your point? the digital is way cheaper and not and accurate representation of what I was talking about its not apples to apples. although they still hold there value percentage wise better than the RAVEN |
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Post by rickcarson on Oct 5, 2015 11:19:28 GMT -6
I picked up a 192 for second, i paid $300 for it with a 8 analog ins/outs, those rigs are well designed, and have very well good analog paths, if you get the BLA FM mod done to them, they are virtually untouchable as converters go to this day. Even though avid claims "no longer supported", they are supported as avid wouldn't dare allow them to not be, their main user base would beyond flip, even if they ever become "unsupported" for real, they will be slaveable for a long time at least, and the bottom line is if it sounds great, your golden... right? I use BLA 192's as well. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 5, 2015 11:19:26 GMT -6
NoFilterChuck and tonycamphd, what are you guys talking about? Who cares if these things are good or what the actual value is? You're missing the point. These rigs cost boatloads of money when they were new and now they're selling for pennies on the dollar. Here's an analog 192 that sold for $400... www.ebay.com/itm/Digidesign-192-w-16-Analog-inputs-Pro-Tools-Avid-Interface-Used-/231698395528?hash=item35f24cf188How much was this 192 new? Probably $3000? Now you're lucky if you can get 4 bones for it. I'm just trying to make the point that the value of computers and peripherals drop quicker than most things and should be looked at as having 0 return if/when looking to sell. They are a sunk cost.
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Post by rickcarson on Oct 5, 2015 11:21:06 GMT -6
a used 192 analog still holds roughly the same value percentage wise as the raven 25 percent but the 192 is what? 12-14 years into its life cycle?
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