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Post by Ward on Oct 1, 2015 19:43:28 GMT -6
...and it was exactly as described too. I'll post picture and try to do some sort of video review thing soon.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Oct 1, 2015 20:59:21 GMT -6
Looking forward to this!
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 1, 2015 21:24:44 GMT -6
Cool!
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 1, 2015 21:24:59 GMT -6
I wanna see that Polish 1176 too.
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 1, 2015 22:11:51 GMT -6
Yes been waiting to hear about this too !
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Post by levon on Oct 1, 2015 23:21:29 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 2, 2015 11:36:47 GMT -6
Yeah - just wanted to see what Ward actually got. |
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Post by winetree on Oct 2, 2015 11:36:50 GMT -6
What's the word?
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Post by forgotteng on Oct 2, 2015 18:46:13 GMT -6
Mine is on it's way. I can't wait.
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Post by Ward on Oct 2, 2015 19:15:45 GMT -6
I haven't even had a chance to run it through its paces yet but I will let you know after tomorrow's sessions.
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Post by Ward on Oct 3, 2015 17:22:12 GMT -6
A bit of a review... the unit powered up and ran fine... didn't seem to have proper tube burn-in before shipping, but I'll probably open it up and put in some NOS tubes/valves anyhow.
I release and recovery time is VERY slow. But it may be the result of none of the components being "broke in" yet.
The 1/4" ins and outs did not work. The XLRs worked just fine,
I gave it a good workout with bass and guitar after the usual preamps. Not great on bass but I liked it on guitar. Then pumped some sampled drums through it, which worked pretty good. I'll give that a "B+". I have some group vocal sessions coming up tomorrow. That will really tell me how it does. Because I'll compare it with identical mics, identical preamps in stereo config and use the SA2a on one side and an LA2a on the other side. XY config, not AB or ORTF which would be unreliable.
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Post by stam on Oct 4, 2015 13:34:58 GMT -6
Hi Ward,
The unit had a proper tube burn before shipping. All units are left on over night with signal passing through them.
With regards to the release and recovery time being slow its an easy fix. This is how the original T4B works, some people then to like a faster release better. I can replace your T4B for a medium slow or fast one with Drip. Just make sure to shot my an email and let know asap as I am ordering them next week.
Sorry to hear that jacks are not working, could you open it up and check if anything got dislodged with shipping ?
9 out of 10 people says it sounds amazing on bass has it adds a super cool low end, perhaps you are not liking the release and recovery time ?
Cheers!
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Post by Ward on Oct 5, 2015 10:30:57 GMT -6
That's really all it is, Josh. I'll shop around for other T4s and try them in the unit. I don't expect you to cover that cost.
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Post by Ward on Oct 5, 2015 10:32:05 GMT -6
As an aside...
How many of you know the difference between 'release time' and 'recovery time'?
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 5, 2015 10:41:19 GMT -6
As an aside... How many of you know the difference between 'release time' and 'recovery time'? Release is 2/3 the way back and recovery is all the way? |
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Post by kcatthedog on Oct 5, 2015 10:44:29 GMT -6
As an aside... How many of you know the difference between 'release time' and 'recovery time'? I am not certain of the distinction, please explain; except one could be the setting adn the other the actual time it takes the signal to get back to its original level ? |
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 5, 2015 11:03:29 GMT -6
As an aside... How many of you know the difference between 'release time' and 'recovery time'? is this a trick question? will there be a test? "Release time" is the time between 6:00AM when the cops let you out of the drunk tank, until your head hits the pillow at home, and "recovery time" is the duration of time that you sleep it off? 8) |
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Post by stam on Oct 5, 2015 12:30:24 GMT -6
That's really all it is, Josh. I'll shop around for other T4s and try them in the unit. I don't expect you to cover that cost. Happy to replace it for you free of charge Ward, We can coordinate, just send me an email and we can discuss it further Thanks! |
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Post by ericn on Oct 5, 2015 18:52:43 GMT -6
That's really all it is, Josh. I'll shop around for other T4s and try them in the unit. I don't expect you to cover that cost. Happy to replace it for you free of charge Ward, We can coordinate, just send me an email and we can discuss it further Thanks! That is very cool of you ! Props for doing the right Idea! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 5, 2015 20:05:15 GMT -6
That's great, stam! Great customer service... |
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Post by Ward on Oct 6, 2015 5:03:58 GMT -6
As an aside... How many of you know the difference between 'release time' and 'recovery time'? I am not certain of the distinction, please explain; except one could be the setting adn the other the actual time it takes the signal to get back to its original level ? Now... pardon my moment of being debauched. Release time in a comp is when the compression cell stops actively compressing. Recovery time is how long it takes the unit to return to zero gain reduction and stop having any effect on the signal. You can note this tracking when you have fairly good compression happening in a line song, then there's a 3 to 4 second break and the next line starts with a sudden increase in gain output before settling back down to the 'fader riding' type level. Release lets go, recovery is when it has fully risen back to the surface level. I really suck at explaining things some times. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 6, 2015 5:06:08 GMT -6
As an aside... How many of you know the difference between 'release time' and 'recovery time'? Release is 2/3 the way back and recovery is all the way? I think this is more accurate. |
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Post by bluenoise on Oct 6, 2015 7:33:35 GMT -6
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Post by EmRR on Oct 6, 2015 9:19:47 GMT -6
In my decades in audio production I have never heard release and recovery used as anything other than interchangeable terms, nor seen them used together to mean different things in any technical portion of a compressor manual, going back to the late 1930's, and I've read a few. Please point one out if I've forgotten.
Even the 2/3 definition for recovery is not universally recognized or followed (as Greg mentions in relation to attack in that article-and he clearly says he's making that up too), there is not a defined standard for the way this is observed. A distant example is the Stalevel manual which charts both 63% and 90% recovery times for each time constant.
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Post by forgotteng on Oct 6, 2015 17:14:33 GMT -6
Oh look what I got when I got home. Tempted to turn around and back in to the studio.
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