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Post by ericn on Jul 11, 2015 15:21:22 GMT -6
With the rise of everybody having a bedroom studio the new niche is the bedroom mastering studio! As a mixer having a handful of quality mastering guys who I know and work with is a great resource, but it's the clients project and if he chooses the $20 solution it's his project and his money!
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Post by Guitar on Jul 11, 2015 17:38:17 GMT -6
I think there are still some good discussions on there, but there is also this sense of a loud public space with thousands of voices, certainly variable in quality, but that can be a positive thing. Pitchfork on the other hand, I tuned out of that a long time ago.
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Post by drsax on Jul 11, 2015 22:58:45 GMT -6
GS has lost its sense of community. There are still some useful threads but more than anything, it's full of a bunch of disrespectful ego maniacs. Most of the contributors I found helpful left long ago. And usually because they got tired of being insulted by cats that don't know know much about audio or music. I have had some nice accolades in my career and have learned a lot over the years and it seems the more I share over there, the more I end up having to defend myself to guys that don't ever positively contribute. I'm always learning, always growing and always will.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 12, 2015 15:06:59 GMT -6
I wonder how we police that here? Maybe it's as simple as making sure people respond in a respectful manner.
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Post by ericn on Jul 12, 2015 15:28:33 GMT -6
I wonder how we police that here? Maybe it's as simple as making sure people respond in a respectful manner. Good luck with that John, the biggest problem is if you want the numbers you have to live with the bottom feeders and they are the ones buying the gear from those with big budgets! GS isn't moving like it once was, part of that is the running off of the quality people, part is what s the best ... For the 333rd time!
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Post by drsax on Jul 12, 2015 17:39:00 GMT -6
I wonder how we police that here? Maybe it's as simple as making sure people respond in a respectful manner. It is hard to police. I think that when the discussions are kept on topic it helps. When people start derailing and getting off topic then that's really all that can be fairly enforced I suppose.
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Post by ericn on Jul 12, 2015 18:15:16 GMT -6
I wonder how we police that here? Maybe it's as simple as making sure people respond in a respectful manner. It is hard to police. I think that when the discussions are kept on topic it helps. When people start derailing and getting off topic then that's really all that can be fairly enforced I suppose. Part of the fun here is we drift on and off track as if we were all in a room talking gear and drinking beer! The goal is we bring people to the party who get the mentality and enough that John can retire to RGO Island!
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 12, 2015 20:10:49 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't mind things drifting...And then reigning things back in - without giving freaking infractions. Geez.
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Post by Guitar on Jul 12, 2015 21:43:23 GMT -6
yellow card! red card! three strikes yer out! it's pretty funny, really
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 12, 2015 22:13:10 GMT -6
Infractions? some here can be a bit moody, and wear their hearts on their sleeves, they'd surely be banned by now over GS..., of course i'm not talking about myself..cough!!..., ... ehhemmm, but it's good to have gotten to know guys at a level where we can read each other pretty accurately, and recognize each others quirks. This place has definitely given me a lot knowledge about myself as well as techniques and gear, and i appreciate it, I try to contribute positively as much as possible in return, and I appreciate u guys putting up with me haha 8)
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Post by robertsattler on Aug 24, 2017 23:32:44 GMT -6
I'd rather choose to use a service like landr (https://www.landr.com/en) than leaving my music to some random college kid asking for $20 a piece for what they consider to be mastering. BTW I really like the concept of landr utilising a BD analysis as part of their algo. It may not be there yet but given the rate of advancement in machine learning, AI, and its associated subfield of computer science I expect that automated process like landr will get closer and closer to what human mastering engineers can do (although it may be as flexible as human engineers..yet). I'm just an old electric guitar player who's 1st experience with a computer/net/digital recording etc,was in 2011. I'm also a new member here,so I do realize this quote comes from a 2 plus year old thread,but I'm very intrigued by what is meant with the acronym BD? as in "I really like the concept of landr utilising a BD analysis as part of their algo"(obviously algorithm). Sonar x3 I think included a basic version of landr,which I thought was ok,though I thought it made some of my stuff become too bright,also cakewalk forum members generally didn't give it a lot of praise,and I'm not sure, but I don't think Sonar Platinum includes landr anymore,which I think is a bit of a loss,as I'm sure it has become far improved perhaps. Really I just wanted to know what BD analysis is,in the context of KJ's post? Thank You RK
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Post by adamjbrass on Aug 25, 2017 6:39:25 GMT -6
they just keep perpetuating the "engineer versus the musician" crap that really enrages me.
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Post by EmRR on Aug 25, 2017 7:34:05 GMT -6
they just keep perpetuating the "engineer versus the musician" crap that really enrages me. How many engineers these days aren't musicians, on some level? You could be in an unfamiliar genre, but rare to be only a tech.
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Post by adamjbrass on Aug 25, 2017 8:00:59 GMT -6
they just keep perpetuating the "engineer versus the musician" crap that really enrages me. How many engineers these days aren't musicians, on some level? You could be in an unfamiliar genre, but rare to be only a tech. my point was the purple place, itself, promotes elitist myths that hurt the industry and the people in it.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 25, 2017 8:12:43 GMT -6
I've basically abandoned GS, visiting only once or twice a year since John started RealGear. And that was only to check in on the original monster Apollo thread that brought many of us here together originally.
Growth is interesting to study. Tipping points, exponential growth at some point, inevitable declines.. I think like everything else, we may have a nice ten year run here before something shifts negatively. There are some models that sustain profitability and remain productive and cordial. I think rules need to be simple, as they are here, don't be an ass. The difference is the way John welcomes professionals and highly experienced posters. To be able to meet and chat with engineers and designers of things we're interested in is brilliant. I wouldn't know of so many thing without RGO.
I think RGO can grow without becoming a cesspool. John will need some help from some of the core posters here eventually.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 25, 2017 8:47:07 GMT -6
Forum traffic has plummeted thanks to Facebook.
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Post by EmRR on Aug 25, 2017 8:52:42 GMT -6
Forum traffic has plummeted thanks to Facebook. Yeah, lots of forums have shuttered because of it.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Aug 25, 2017 8:55:07 GMT -6
I like how I can connect personally to a few of my musician engineer friends on Facebook. It's supplement to RGO for me though, not a replacement.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 25, 2017 9:00:15 GMT -6
I've been involved in forum moderation since the 1980s. The basic problem is that a tiny number of very self-centered people can take up all of the oxygen. We all have a handful of people we'd just as soon avoid. As the quantity of people we interact with increases, that handful increases proportionally. This is why big stars require a security detail. It goes with the territory.
I think Gearslutz grew primarily because it was originally a much faster site than all of the others. You could pop in and out on a break while you couldn't elsewhere. After Jules parted company with the woman who had been managing it, things slumped back to ordinary and it became just another site.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 25, 2017 13:01:30 GMT -6
I assumed it got bad because the moderators were mostly assholes. (With a few exceptions...). Why does everyone think GS is done, though? Last time I checked it had 300k members. (I swear last year it was like 220.) Who knows...maybe those are just fake users...and maybe that's how you should run a site. This site has grown just from word of mouth. I've done ZERO marketing. I've toyed with the idea of saying screw it and taking the leap into making this a full time thing...but I just don't know if that's even a possibility. Obviously, it would then have to be a content site - with a forum...I just wonder if that isn't saturated at this point. How many more videos on parallel compression can you do? A member that just deleted their profile here (because RGO was "getting like GS."...then I check GS and he's on there posting...) suggested I do a podcast or a blog...which is probably a good idea...but I DO have to make a living too.
The one thing that I hear/see most on these boards is basic human nature: people want to be heard. I've thought about maybe doing some sort of "chart system" for users to submit songs to...like "Demo Radio." Maybe trying to link up with music publishers where they can find new talent. But that takes time and money...so I just don't know. I know if I were to charge even $3 a month, I would lose 90% of members here.
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Post by Bender on Aug 25, 2017 13:14:21 GMT -6
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Post by donr on Aug 25, 2017 13:28:13 GMT -6
Wow, Sweden/Scandanavia rock for GS.
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Post by ericn on Aug 25, 2017 14:26:57 GMT -6
Everything has a shelf life GS has reached it's time they ran off the pros sucked the personality out of the place and it now feels way to much connected to the gear pimps!
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Post by drbill on Aug 25, 2017 14:32:20 GMT -6
I dunno.....most of the guys I see around here I see over there too..... ? ? ?
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Post by johneppstein on Aug 25, 2017 14:48:24 GMT -6
Forum traffic has plummeted thanks to Facebook. Which is an horrible substitute.
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